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Hokuseiho Out- Hakuho Demoted - Miyagino-beya Closing

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43 minutes ago, Oskanohana said:

But wasn't the TET actually in May? March tournament was suspended, they did the TET in May...Everywhere I look it says so, and I kind of remember it that way...

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Your are right. March got cancelled. Silly me. Brain fart.

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Asakayama summoned Miyagino to his office today for a chat. Ooshima Oyakata joined them for the first eight minutes and left. The chat lasted 30 minutes, after which neither agreed to talk to the press. As an aside, the article noted, in passing, that Asakayama will probably be the next rijicho.  I need to retire.

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Neither agreed to talk to the press? So one should talk to the press but no one volunteered or they agreed they aren't going to talk to the press?

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12 minutes ago, Morning said:

Neither agreed to talk to the press? So one should talk to the press but no one volunteered or they agreed they aren't going to talk to the press?

I meant they both did not talk to the press. Probably agreed not to. 

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1 hour ago, Kintamayama said:

As an aside, the article noted, in passing, that Asakayama will probably be the next rijicho.

I don't see that in there...

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On 17/03/2024 at 16:22, Asashosakari said:

Sanspo claims that the board meeting to make the decision will only take place after Haru basho has concluded.

Scheduled for the 28th, says Sponichi.

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14 hours ago, Asashosakari said:

I don't see that in there...

Me neither. 

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Yesterday another meeting, this time with Isegahama and Asakayama for  a hour and a half. Today, a third meeting, with Ooshima and Asakayama. No further news, still not the next rijicho.

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11 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

Yesterday another meeting, this time with Isegahama and Asakayama for  a hour and a half. Today, a third meeting, with Ooshima and Asakayama. No further news, still not the next rijicho.

Next day: Asakayama won't meet anymore until these guys at least pitch in for the beer and snacks.

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This is one of the saddest threads in the forum :-|

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10 hours ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

Try the current basho thread.

What a difference a day makes!

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Sanspo claims that the transfer of the Miyagino rikishi to Asakayama-beya has fallen through and that Isegahama-beya is now the likely destination.

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2 minutes ago, Asashosakari said:

Sanspo claims that the transfer of the Miyagino rikishi to Asakayama-beya has fallen through and that Isegahama-beya is now the likely destination.

It does seem kinda stupid for the sport to remove the exciting matchups of Hakuoho vs all Fujis; even if the training will probably be the best in the JSA...

Or maybe Asakayama has NO capacity at all to house everyone.

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1 hour ago, Kaitetsu said:

It does seem kinda stupid for the sport to remove the exciting matchups of Hakuoho vs all Fujis; even if the training will probably be the best in the JSA...

Or maybe Asakayama has NO capacity at all to house everyone.

Pretty much, I have seen both Asakayama heya and Isegahama heya. Kaio only has 1 building, whereas Isegahama has pretty much extended into the neighbouring building. 

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1 hour ago, Kaitetsu said:

Or maybe Asakayama has NO capacity at all to house everyone.

That was the main reason given on Takatoriki's channel (FWIW). Also because Isegahama oyakata is more experienced than Asakayama and so better able to guide Hakuho.

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3 hours ago, Kaitetsu said:

remove the exciting matchups of Hakuoho vs all Fujis

I've assumed they hope to eventually have him branch out again as with Kise/Kitanoumi, so it's only temporary.  And given the performance of Miyagino-beya thia basho, there's not looking to be many matchups that are going to be missing any time soon.

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Hope the Miyagino ruffians don't ruin the positive vibes and culture that Isegahama-beya as cultivated. As a supporter of this heya I'm not a fan of this development. But we'll see how it goes. 

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10 hours ago, Kaninoyama said:

Hope the Miyagino ruffians don't ruin the positive vibes and culture that Isegahama-beya as cultivated. As a supporter of this heya I'm not a fan of this development. But we'll see how it goes. 

Isegahama is not exactly squeaky clean either.

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15 hours ago, Gurowake said:

I've assumed they hope to eventually have him branch out again as with Kise/Kitanoumi, so it's only temporary.  And given the performance of Miyagino-beya thia basho, there's not looking to be many matchups that are going to be missing any time soon.

Isegahama oyakata probably wants that to happen because Seihakuho is going to take up the foreigner slot when Terunofuji retires and he already has a Mongolian recruit. 

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3 hours ago, rhyen said:

Isegahama is not exactly squeaky clean either.

I don't know that's a fair comparison.

Things getting out of hand occasionally in a stable full of young men fighting each other is inevitable, but Isegahama seems to dob himself in as soon as he gets wind of his rikishi being naughty.

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7 hours ago, rhyen said:

Isegahama oyakata probably wants that to happen because Seihakuho is going to take up the foreigner slot when Terunofuji retires and he already has a Mongolian recruit. 

I thought transfered foreigners didn't count against the transfered to heya?

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True, but Isegahama/Terunofuji's foreign recruit Ochil is still there informally I believe, as he waits for Terunofuji to retire. So I doubt he'd be recognized in a merger.

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