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  1. The bottom of the Makuuchi banzuke is generally the place that people get things wrong most often. I don't feel too bad when I get it wrong.
  2. Gurowake

    Banzuke for Nagoya 2022

    OK, I guess I'm just not paying much attention to where they've been putting the promotees recently. If it's been what they've been doing, OK, but it's still somewhat baffling. edit: I suppose it might be a modest leniency for double digit losses.
  3. Gurowake

    Banzuke for Nagoya 2022

    This is really baffling to me. I had Kitanowaka and Yago at the bottom of the division, as it seemed all the promotees could reasonably placed higher than the bottom.
  4. Gurowake

    Banzuke for Nagoya 2022

    Not I. Thanks for pointing it out.
  5. As I thought, my 63 doesn't look all that great compared to others who report their scores early.
  6. Gurowake

    New recruits Aki 2022

    Well, the DB gives his real name as ASGAKHAD Altan-Ochir, which doesn't look very Chinese to me. The last bit doesn't look very Mongolian either, though the first bit does. The DB also has his shusshin as Inner Mongolia, though that doesn't necessarily mean he's Mongolian by itself - the majority of the population there are Han Chinese.
  7. Gurowake

    How many komusubi did you go for? (Nagoya GTB)

    It's one of those things that happens rarely enough that we're probably never going to get a set answer. Based on some of their choices in the last 5 years or so I'm surprised that the line at 11 wins as a Komusubi is as clean-cut as it is. There's certainly a very good argument to be made that 10 wins should be enough, as it was in times in the past.
  8. Gurowake

    How many komusubi did you go for? (Nagoya GTB)

    I wouldn't put it quite on those terms. There's only been one occasion recently where a Sekiwake promotion was expected and not given, and that was in a very rare situation. 11 win Komusubi without open Sekiwake slots available happen a bit more often, there's a very clear line that's been put in place, and they haven't stopped promoting those. Sure, maybe once upon a time they promoted 10 win Komusubi as well, but that was a long time ago, and they handed out more Komusubi promotions too then.
  9. Gurowake

    How many komusubi did you go for? (Nagoya GTB)

    The context of your quotes are not relevant to the point about caring about Sekiwake. The point is: Goeido S Tochiozan Myogiryu S2 -- Toyonoshima K Aminishiki has more in common with Goeido S Tochiozan Myogiryu K Toyonoshima Aminishiki K2 --- than it does with Goeido S Tochiozan Myogiryu K Toyonoshima. for the vast majority of purposes when it comes to GTB. That's the argument we're making for why you shouldn't be considering Komusubi only when analyzing players' choices for lower sanyaku. If someone asked for an analysis of the number of Komusubi, then this is an attempt to get them to realize that what they meant to ask for was an analysis of lower sanyaku choices, because the choices for number of Komusubi depend on the choices for the number of Sekiwake.
  10. Gurowake

    How many komusubi did you go for? (Nagoya GTB)

    Yes, if your question is "how many Koumusbi did players pick?" then you should correctly focus only on the Komusubi. But this thread is specifically about Nagoya 2021, and I don't think there's going to be very many people, if any, that predict more than one Sekiwake, and there's not any uncertainty about the number of upper sanyaku, so the question of "How many Komusubi?" is equivalent to the question of "How many sanyaku?". The latter question is, in general, the one that's the most relevant when talking about GTB. The fact that the question for Nagoya 2021 was phrased only in terms of Komusubi reflects the extremely likely situation where every single person predicts the same number of sanyaku other than Komusubi. If there was a real possibility that people might pick more than 2 Sekiwake for Nagoya 2021, I suspect that the poll would reflect that option. The point is that if you're going to analyze past GTB picks, you need to consider not only how many extra Komusubi were predicted, but also how many Sekiwake, because it's the sum of those two that's most relevant for the game. That Sekiwake were not asked about in this poll is simply because there's no uncertainty.
  11. Gurowake

    How many komusubi did you go for? (Nagoya GTB)

    I swear some of the entries are done by making selections at random. If it's offered by the entry form, someone is probably going to choose it. See, for example, Shimazuumi being picked for Makuuchi last basho. I don't know how anyone could actually conclude he'd get promoted, but he was offered as a choice for promotion just in case, and so someone picked up.
  12. Gurowake

    How many komusubi did you go for? (Nagoya GTB)

    There is an argument that the number of total lower sanyaku is more relevant that the number of Komusubi when it comes to this sort of analysis, unless you literally only care about the number of Komusubi. In reality, the actual number that's most important is the total for all sanyaku, but because there's no secrecy to the upper sanyaku, the focus is on getting the number of lower sanyaku correct. If you get that wrong, whether you have the correct number of Komusubi or Sekiwake is almost entirely irrelevant.
  13. Yes, that's exactly what I use. You can see evidence of it in my banzuke posts that omit the number of absences, because those aren't listed in simple style.
  14. It's errors like this that make me attempt to, in all cases possible, copy the data electronically from a trusted source rather than retyping it at all.
  15. Gurowake

    How many komusubi did you go for? (Nagoya GTB)

    True, it takes more work, but the information is there if you want to collate it. It shouldn't be too hard to see how many extra Komusubi were picked just by adding up all the picks for Komusubi in total. In fact, just looking at the grid, there were clearly 3 extra Komusubi chosen, and zooming in they were all on different ballots. If more people pick additionally Komusubi it'll get harder to determine, but it shouldn't be too hard to manually inspect it. At least, it looks like there's plenty of people that have gone with 2, so I suspect that's still going to be the majority and it won't be hard to see how many extra ones there are.