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  1. Here's a general hint: if working from the top isn't getting you anywhere, try working from the bottom.
  2. Gurowake

    Next Ozeki?

    It's going to be at least a year before Asanoyama is even back in Makuuchi, and another year before he has a chance to make Ozeki again. If he's the next one, that's a decently long time without a new one, especially given how few there are now. (There have been 61 hard promotions to Ozeki since 1961, or 1 per year.)
  3. Gurowake

    Longest gaps between rematches

    I just noticed that Meisei met Terunofuji twice in the very bottom of the banzuke before meeting him over 9 years later in Makuuchi. I don't know how to spin this so it might be a record in some way, but it was interesting to find and figured it might go in this thread.
  4. Gurowake

    Future prospects to keep an eye on

    The most promising candidates all picked up KKs: Atamifuji should be promoted to Juryo after just 7 basho from Maezumo, tied for 5th fastest, and the only one as young as him to go that fast (though others have been one basho slower). Hokuseiho (one of those one basho slower) will move up with a 5-2, but likely won't be in the promotion zone. Though I haven't worked it out specifically based on the actual results, I would normally expect him around ms6-7. Otsuji picked up a KK and will move up slightly to around ms20, while Yoshii did a lot to get back closer to before his injury hiatus with a 6-1, which should put him roughly around ms40, probably a bit lower. The other 5 on the list this basho had an MK, but they were all of the minimal type, so no major backwards movements there.
  5. Gurowake

    Sumo Ranfurly Shield History

    Full basho for Hatsu 2022: Y Terunofuji -> M3 Tamawashi (6) -> S Mitakeumi (7) -> M4 Hokutofuji (10) -> O Shodai (12) -> M5 Onosho (13) -> M1 Wakatakakage (15)
  6. Gurowake

    Sumo ‘Ranfurly Shield’ for 2022

    Full basho: Y Terunofuji -> M3 Tamawashi (6) -> S Mitakeumi (7) -> M4 Hokutofuji (10) -> O Shodai (12) -> M5 Onosho (13) -> M1 Wakatakakage (15)
  7. Gurowake

    Hatsu 2022 Promotion & Yusho blather

    Well that's good news for Tochimaru, who's been close-but-not-quite to Juryo on a few times before. I think I was influenced by recent things like - but there's a difference between J12 and J13. The only recent 6-9 J13s to survive had worse replacements available than the recent 6-9 J12s.
  8. Gurowake

    Hatsu 2022 discussions (results)

    Well, Asanoyama's lack of consistency isn't on the dohyo - at least double digit wins in all tournaments he finished since hitting sanyaku, including 6 in a row starting from M2, and only one injury kyujo (only one of his career) after that followed by 2 more double digits. If he doesn't get hurt on his way back up he should have little problem returning to Ozeki and will be a reasonable candidate for Yokozuna given how he fared previously at Ozeki.
  9. Gurowake

    RotoSumo Haru 2022

    We have two new Ozeki as both Sakura and Andoreasu met their goal of 10 wins. Sakura's Ozeki run was very unimpressive, but it was just barely enough. Andoreasu's wasn't all that much better with the max score being just over 12 wins, but it's hard to find candidates with stricter rules for promotion. We also have one demotion from Ozeki as Konosato picked up his second MK in a row. He can return to Ozeki the easy way with 10 wins next basho. Norizo returns as Sekiwake and with a reasonably good last two tournaments needs only 10 wins for Ozeki promotion. Top-performing maegashira Ganzonesushi returns to Sekiwake and with a KK in the previous tournament also needs only 10 wins to return to ozeki. Yusho winner Komusbi Oshirokita returns to Sekiwake but was MK last tournament and so is not up for promotion. We have only two Komusubi on this banzuke, the next-best-performing maegashira Taka and Golynohana. Next-in-line Kobashi was not particularly close to forcing an 11th sanyaku. Achiyama does a good Oho impression with a small MK at the bottom of the division such that he would not have been demoted had his rank stayed on the banzuke. But with the additional 2 sanyaku it did not, and down he must go. Asapedroryu gets the lucky reprieve, but it was very close between him and the next Juryo promotion candidate, Andrasoyamawaka. BariiHachiBenson and Chumsinomaru were both new and had the same score, so they should be ranked identically. Since that's not possible, they're ranked alphabetically, and will (hopefully, if I remember) be treated as ranked identically for movement after Haru. Chishafuwaku(Ow, 9.61 wins) O Flohru(O2e, 9.14 wins) Andoreasu(Sw, 11.95 wins) O2 Sakura(Se, 10 wins) Norizo(S2w, 9.06 wins) S Oshirokita(Kw, 15 wins) Ganzohnesushi(M1w, 13.98 wins) S2 Konosato(Oe, 4.61 wins) Taka(M4e, 11.64 wins) K Golynohana(M10w, 13.75 wins) Kobashi(M5e, 10.7 wins) M1 GONZABUROW(M12e, 13.52 wins) Asashosakari(M9e, 11.88 wins) M2 Torafujii(M6w, 9.53 wins) Kaiowaka(M3e, 7.51 wins) M3 Gaijingai(M13e, 12.73 wins) Mariohana(M3w, 6.88 wins) M4 Kitakachiyama(M16e, 12.73 wins) Kutoyama(M1e, 4.45 wins) M5 Frinkanohana(M10e, 9.06 wins) Bill(M7w, 7.66 wins) M6 Hakuryuho(J4e, 14.82 wins) Kintamayama(M2w, 4.38 wins) M7 Kaito(Ke, 1.09 wins) Kuroimori(M13w, 9.45 wins) M8 Kotononami(J1e, 12.07 wins) Pandaazuma(M15w, 10.16 wins) M9 Gansekiiwa(M8e, 6.17 wins) ScreechingOwl(M6e, 5.16 wins) M10 Oskahanada(M5w, 4.45 wins) Athenayama(M2e, 0 wins) M11 Chankoyama(J3e, 11.71 wins) Anjoboshi(M7e, 3.83 wins) M12 Terarno(M11w, 6.09 wins) Choshu-yuki(M4w, 0 wins) M13 Oortael(J4w, 10.91 wins) Kyoju(M14e, 6.95 wins) M14 Hironoumi(J7e, 12.07 wins) Shatsume(M8w, 2.58 wins) M15 Andonishiki(M16w, 7.58 wins) Asapedroryu(M11e, 3.67 wins) M16 Sukubidubidu(M17w, kosho) Achiyama(M17e, 7.42 wins) J1 Andrasoyamawaka(J3w, 9.51 wins) Metzinowaka(J12e, 13.35 wins) J2 Saruyama(J5w, 9.82 wins) Kajiyanosho(J9e, 11.4 wins) J3 Oyama(M12w, 3.13 wins) Sutārokku(M9w, 0 wins) J4 Joaoiyama(M14w, 5 wins) Reijinguoshan(J5e, 7.74 wins) J5 Fujisan(J2e, 7.15 wins) Tomisakae(J2w, 7.13 wins) J6 Nantonoyama(M15e, 1.09 wins) Unkonoyama(J1w, 4.27 wins) J7 KazeJihi(Ms6e, 13.73 wins) Hagamachikuni(J13e, 9.33 wins) J8 Seki Haruaki(J12w, 8.9 wins) Ruziklao(J8w, 6.59 wins) J9 Netsuzakura(Ms7e, 13.13 wins) Balon(J6w, 5.24 wins) J10 Kashunowaka(J10w, kosho) Gaanaa(J11e, 7.13 wins) J11 Wamahada(J10e, 6.4 wins) Sherlockiama(J8e, 5.37 wins) J12 Takanorappa(J14e, 8.29 wins) Ketsukai(J6e, 2.8 wins) J13 Akishiki(Ms5e, 10.64 wins) Arawaka(Ms5w, 10.84 wins) J14 Hidenotora(J13w, 7.26 wins) Next-ozeki-ura(Ms7w, 11.2 wins) Ms1 Kishikaisei(J9w, 3.35 wins) Kōrinokoishi(Ms2w, 7.75 wins) Ms2 Shiroikumo(J7w, 0.24 wins) Susanoo(J11w, 4.15 wins) Ms3 Mmikasazuma(Ms16w, 13.78 wins) Chelseayama(Ms9e, 9.43 wins) Ms4 Tsuchinoninjin(Ms9w, 9.63 wins) TochiYESshin(Ms1e, 5.32 wins) Ms5 BlackPinkMawashi(Ms6w, 7.65 wins) Zannah(Ms11e, 9.83 wins) Ms6 Rowitoro(Ms4w, 6.39 wins) Unagiyutaka2(Ms1w, 4.56 wins) Ms7 Hogashi(Ms2e, 4.56 wins) Kyodaitimu(Ms3e, 4.86 wins) Ms8 Jejima(Ms8e, 6.84 wins) WAKATAKE(Ms11w, 8.46 wins) Ms9 Profomisakari(Ms3w, 2.48 wins) Shimodahito(Ms14e, 7.6 wins) Ms10 Yeyisoshin(J14w, kyujo) Veshana(Ms15e, 6.99 wins) Ms11 Yarimotsu(Ms8w, 2.28 wins) Musasabi(Ms17e, 7.51 wins) Ms12 BariiHachiBenson(New, 8.36 wins) Chumsinomaru(New, 8.36 wins) Ms13 Dannybo(Ms13w, kosho) Stusan(Ms13e, 4.16 wins) Ms14 Harmony(Ms4e, kyujo) Taliesin(Ms12e, 2.99 wins) Ms15 Doreikishi(Ms17w, 6.03 wins) Marushiki(Ms16e, 5.07 wins) Ms16 Kuodorūpuru(New, 6.23 wins) Randomaru(Ms18w, 3.55 wins) Ms17 Bens8382(Ms10e, kyujo) Bg Chudorj(Ms10w, kyujo) Bg Furanohana(Ms12w, kyujo) Bg Tenshinhan(Ms14w, kyujo) Bg Haru(Ms15w, kyujo) Bg OoSk(Ms18e, kyujo) Bg
  10. Gurowake

    RotoSumo Hatsu 2022

    Results: Top Score = 1285 Makuuchi median = 1189 - Step size = 12.8 Player Score Wins Oshirokita 1285 15 Ganzohnesushi 1272 13.98 Golynohana 1269 13.75 GONZABUROW 1266 13.52 Gaijingai 1256 12.73 Kitakachiyama 1256 12.73 Andoreasu 1246 11.95 Asashosakari 1245 11.88 Taka 1242 11.64 Kobashi 1230 10.7 Pandaazuma 1223 10.16 Sakura 1221 10 Chishafuwaku 1216 9.61 Torafujii 1215 9.53 Kuroimori 1214 9.45 Flohru 1210 9.14 Frinkanohana 1209 9.06 Norizo 1209 9.06 Bill 1191 7.66 Andonishiki 1190 7.58 Kaiowaka 1189 7.51 Achiyama 1188 7.42 Kyoju 1182 6.95 Mariohana 1181 6.88 Gansekiiwa 1172 6.17 Terarno 1171 6.09 ScreechingOwl 1159 5.16 Joaoiyama 1157 5 Konosato 1152 4.61 Oskahanada 1150 4.45 Kutoyama 1150 4.45 Kintamayama 1149 4.38 Anjoboshi 1142 3.83 Asapedroryu 1140 3.67 Oyama 1133 3.13 Shatsume 1126 2.58 Kaito 1107 1.09 Nantonoyama 1107 1.09 Sutārokku 1077 0 Athenayama 1073 0 Choshu-Yuki 1044 0 Juryo median = 1162 - Step Size = 16.4 Player Score Wins Hakuryuho 1282 14.82 Metzinowaka 1258 13.35 Kotononami 1237 12.07 Hironoumi 1237 12.07 Chankoyama 1231 11.71 Kajiyanosho 1226 11.4 Oortael 1218 10.91 Saruyama 1200 9.82 Andrasoyamawaka 1195 9.51 Hagamachikuni 1192 9.33 Seki Haruaki 1185 8.9 Takanorappa 1175 8.29 Reijinguoshan 1166 7.74 Hidenotora 1158 7.26 Tomisakae 1156 7.13 Gaanaa 1156 7.13 Ruziklao 1147 6.59 Wamahada 1144 6.4 Fujisan 1130 7.15 Sherlockiama 1127 5.37 Balon 1125 5.24 Unkonoyama 1109 4.27 Susanoo 1107 4.15 Kishikaisei 1094 3.35 Ketsukai 1085 2.8 Shiroikumo 1043 0.24 Makushita median = 1137 - Step Size = 19.7333... Player Score Wins Mmikasazuma 1261 13.78 KazeJihi 1260 13.73 Netsuzakura 1248 13.13 Next-ozeki-ura 1210 11.2 Arawaka 1203 10.84 Akishiki 1199 10.64 Zannah 1183 9.83 Tsuchinoninjin 1179 9.63 Chelseayama 1175 9.43 WAKATAKE 1156 8.46 BariiHachiBenson 1154 8.36 Chumsinomaru 1154 8.36 Kōrinokoishi 1142 7.75 BlackPinkMawashi 1140 7.65 Shimodahito 1139 7.6 Musasabi 1137 7.51 Veshana 1127 6.99 Jejima 1124 6.84 Rowitoro 1115 6.39 Kuodorūpuru 1112 6.23 Doreikishi 1108 6.03 TochiYESshin 1094 5.32 Marushiki 1089 5.07 Kyodaitimu 1085 4.86 Hogashi 1079 4.56 Unagiyutaka2 1079 4.56 Stusan 1071 4.16 Randomaru 1059 3.55 Taliesin 1048 2.99 Profomisakari 1038 2.48 Yarimotsu 1034 2.28
  11. Gurowake

    Hatsu 2022 Promotion & Yusho blather

    I'll point out that they actually don't have any problems not promoting 8-7s if the situation is right - see Yutakayama after Kyushu 2019. They could have easily given Takanosho an even stingier promotion to give Yutakayama the half-rank promotion usually given at minimum, but they didn't. Now in that situation the sanyaku was getting much smaller (one less Ozeki, 2 less Komusubi), whereas in this situation the sanyaku is actually expanding, but they at least set the precedent then that it's possible.
  12. Gurowake

    Hatsu 2022 Promotion & Yusho blather

    This seems to me to be the clearly best solution in terms of fairness so long as they have a problem not promoting 8-7s. However, 1997 was a long time ago and things were generally different then. There's definitely been a trend towards not creating extra Komusubi since then. The only times they have anytime recently was when Hokutofuji had a 9-6 at M1e but there were no demotions, and when Daieisho won the yusho from M1w with no demotions. There's just little compelling reason to make an extra slot just based on the record, as they've denied extra slots recently to records like 10-5 M2w twice despite giving an extra slot to Asanoyama with that record when Hokutofuji was forced to be given an extra one presumably because Asanoyama deserved the spot more (I always found it odd that he got promoted as well, but was ranked behind Hokutofuji). They basically have to be giving an extra slot specifically because of the crunch in the joi maegashira, and I simply don't know of any precedent of them doing that.
  13. Gurowake

    Hatsu 2022 Promotion & Yusho blather

    I'll also point out there is a massive gaping hole in the banzuke starting after Takayasu that continues for some time so there are going to be a lot of overpromotions and underdemotions in the middle of the maegashira pack. I don't want to give much in a the way of hints as to exactly how I think things will work out, but it's going to be crazy.
  14. Gurowake

    Hatsu 2022 Promotion & Yusho blather

    Juryo <-> Makushita As I mentioned yesterday, I don't think anything that happened on Day 15 mattered much, but we did get Kairyu losing which makes it even more likely that Kotoyusho stays, as his replacement, Tochimaru, is now another half-rank from the top of Makushita. We definitely have Asanoyama, Shiden, Chiyoarashi, and Chiyonoo down for Atamifuji, Shimazuumi, Ryuden, and Takakento, though one might find reason to argue Chiyoarashi should stay over Takakento. If you don't argue that, then you could argue for Tochimaru replacing Kotoyusho, which is certainly possible, but I would lean against.