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  1. yorikiried by fate

    Hakuho retires

    Man, I miss Harumafuji and Kotooshu. The latter should man up, though. This comb-over won't do anymore. Embrace the baldness! We've all been there.
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    Trivia bits

    Known to his local B-boy posse as Wannabe-T.
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    YDC Post Hatsu 2023

    No, it's in fact THE phase of LOWEST scores. I wrote about that in the graph update only recently: The 12-3 in January is a continuation of this.
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    YDC Post Hatsu 2023

    And, in hindsight, were those the "correct" decisions?
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    YDC Post Hatsu 2023

    Takakeisho is not Japanese?!
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    Rikishi Status - 2023 Hatsu

    I wanted to ask if he dislocated a character.
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    The Graph

    I mean, the banzuke was set yesterday, the Tuesday after the final day, if memory serves and they didn't change that. Therefore, whatever happens, he is on the next banzuke, which is what counts for me. Unless he will be stricken off the thing completely after the fact, which would need some very serious reason. That's what I was aiming at in my comment.
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    The Graph

    Hello world. The annual update is due. You can find it under this link (which is probably safe, as I use the same file hosting site to share pirated creatively acquired stuff with my brother-in-law). The link will be valid for two months. If you need it afterwards, just give me a shout. If you appreciate the thing, feel free to like and comment, so that I know that I am not doing it exclusively for myself. For the three people who have stumbled into this thread not knowing the Whats and Whys, please download the PDF via the link and read the answers in-document. After the major revamping last year, I have only added the new data points for 2022 and didn't touch anything design- or featurewise. Stuff that can be easily derived from Graph-viewing alone (all claims refer to 1958-now): 2022 was only the fourth year with six different yusho winners (1972, 1991, 2020, 2022). Although, 2020 should be discounted, as it had only five tournaments. 2022 was the first year ever to feature three yusho from Maegashira ranks. As a bonus feature they came in a row, which is also new, even if you'd consider consecutive years. And that's actually an ongoing streak... Abi's win was only the second Maegashira win after a playoff situation, the first one being Kyokutenho's in V/12 against Tochiozan. Additionally, Abi is the first Maegashira to yusho after a playoff, if higher ranked rikishi were involved. (The aformentioned Kyokutenho and Tochiozan were both Maegashira; note – though – that the latter was the higher ranked Maegashira of the two [M4e against M7w].) The 3-way-playoff of XI/22 was the first 3+w-PO since III//97 (with 4 challengers). The previous 3w-PO was in III/94. In all those years, this was only the 6th 3w-PO overall, and the 8th 3+w-PO. Such things are really very rare. Which sounds odd, as Day 14 community exitement about the possibility of which seems – from memory – much more frequent. Even if you wouldn't know it anyway, the numbers suggest that we are living in transition times. Never before have there been four basho in a year, where less than 13 wins were enough for the yusho. The three consecutive 12-3s from III to VII are (interestingly enough) not unprecedented. In fact, I-V/72 even saw 11-4, 12-3, 12-3, which is the lowest wins-needed-for yusho average, if counted over half a year (11.67). Based on that, I figured it would be interesting to look at wins-for-yusho-averages for every year since 1958. Naturally, this couldn't be based on just peering at the Graph, as I include win numbers only for a limited set of cases. Therefore, I returned to the source for all info in the piece, i.e. the Doitsubase. So, in fact 2022 had the all-time lowest wins-needed-to-yusho average with 12.33. There are only 6 years overall, were the average was below 13: 1. 2022 12.33 (13, 12, 12, 12, 13, 12) 2. 1961 12.67 (13, 13, 12, 13, 12, 13) . 1975 12.67 (12, 13, 13, 13, 12, 13) . 1999 12.67 (13, 13, 13, 13, 12, 12) 5. 1972 12.83 (11, 12, 12, 13, 15, 14) . 2003 12.83 (14, 12, 13, 12, 13, 13) The average over all years – btw – is currently 13.61. Finally, some previewish thoughts about January: Since no previous winner retired, we will have a new record of 12 former Makuuchi yusho winners on the banzuke come January. That is, provided everyone fails to do something so outlandishly stupid as to provoke some Stalin-grade purge from the records. This will – interestingly – NOT set a new record low for average wins per former winner (22 yusho distributed among 12 rikishi = 1.83). This record firmly belongs to the era around the Yokozuna-less time in the early 90. In IX/92, 9 yusho were distributed among 7 former winners = 1.29! This is one basho after the record low for "banzuke-yusho-experience-level" (8), which originally the whole Graph was about. Back to the roots. If Terunofuji doesn't have some sudden premature cybertech based comeback in January and/or someone else doesn't get spontaneously promoted to either Yok or Oz for his pretty eyes alone, January will be the first ever basho (in modern times blabla) with an ACTIVE (as in participating) Yokozuna plus Ozeki sum smaller than two. I guess we will see a couple of extra Sekiwake and Komusubi again soon. Have fun and see you around.
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    Kyushu 2022 discussion (results)

    I'm all for Takayasu. No Ozeki should stay yusho-less.
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    Gary Larson Sumo cartoon

    Isn't it the case that Larson has pulled EVERYTHING out of the market upon retirement? Books out of print, no merch anymore [I write this while drinking from a Larson cup, with the print fading more and more every year]. It also seems quite hard to find specific panels online, which implies that he is having his stuff policed quite rigidly.
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    Aki 2022 discussion (results)

    From this I conclude that the current basho sets new records: Top 5 after Day 9 exclusively Maegashira All sanyaku trailing by at least 3 after Day 9
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    Kyushu 2022 discussion (results)

    Before the interior design crew intervened:
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    Sumo Talk revisited (split from another unrelated topic)

    Yes, OK, but I cannot relate that person to a former ST contributor. But we don't have to name names.
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    Sumo Talk revisited (split from another unrelated topic)

    If the ST forum would be operational, I could go full forensic on that one, but alas! From memory it was like this: Mike, who never posted enything in the forum, was quoted as trying to set up some stream. He obviously involved more tech savy guys, most likely Mario, he of the LHC and Estonian persuasion. From what I gather, it involved some person with access to NHK coverage (I assumed Mike himself with some sort of expensive subscription; maybe some of the people in Japan, like Clancy) to grab the signal and splice it into some server, hence the gadget comment. The link was then shared in forum. At first openly, but then some mass paranoia ensued, so after a while, it was hidden in a section open for specific usergroups, with invitations shared by and to "trustworthy" people (a lot of SF regulars suddenly turned up, I remember...). It was all a bit childish, but exiting. So when I wrote "the masses", it was actually a bunch of massively hermetic freaks. But that was running for about two years IIRC, and stopped, when the NSKs free lizard people stream got upgraded. Don't quote me on any of that, it's some time ago and the plot was lost with the forum. See, I didn't know any of that, or I may have partly forgotten. The translation thing rings a bell, as well as the Clancy thing. You might have mentioned that. Clancy always was quite the character, as were others in that special webitat. Who is our forum owner? That part is really news to me. No worries. Your first post to which I reacted sounded to me less hostile, but instead underinformed. You have to realize, conversation about ST has become highly symbolical and in part near-fictional here in SF. At least, if people try to reconstruct the situation 10-15 years ago by deducing it part from (bad) memory and mostly from the zombie-like activities there from today. Thus, most of the occasional ST talk around here is to be considered condensed and symbolical at best. We were not all Flat Earthers. If (my) memory serves, the two tribes thing went from "I don't know them but they suck" to some genuinely warm crossover teasing, with a small group of people posting both here and there. ST even had a team of players under that banner in one of the more popular sumo games, bantering along with the other ichimon from here or e.g. the German groups (and we were good!!!). All this somewhat imploded after a while. Traffic on the forum, which was always much less than on SF, reached the critical lower threshold and eventually died. Several people moved to the busier place, i.e. SF, since the welcome had turned out to be friendlier than expected. Many people just disappeared. That Mike's commentary slowly moved from controversial but informed to fringe/cringe to comedy to self-parody didn't really help. If I was asked how I would see myself in all of this - which I wasn't, but I indulge myself: I am happy to have found a healthy, enduring harbour for sharing sumo interest, collecting likes for inconsequential one-liners, dropping silly photoshops, being geeky. And: This is a place with quite a few selfmade experts, who invest an immense amount of time in gathering, processing and relaying highly intricate and detailed knowledge for others to share in. Every good forum has a couple of those, but here it seems to me a rather large group (and I don't count myself into that bunch at all; very far from it). That being said, I see myself as a corrective voice when certain ST related comments pop up (provided I notice them). Even in a generally enlightened place like here, people are craving for dichotomy. Prominent SF figures (and I'm only naming who is already involved in this particular thread, either by Post or Like) have positioned themselves in various ways. The most honorable Kintamayama-san is - like is his habit - the furthest on his Dao. From personal comments I gather that for himself he transcended the original purist-nutcase-struggle. Another guy like Randomitsuki always went full sciency on all or at least the nuttier parts of the ST spectrum. All the while he kept an open mind at all times and is a joy to converse with (alas, too little for years now). Others with stricter positions tend to keep silent or at minimal level of involvement (albeit peppered with snarkiness). And finally, there still are the real-for-real no-nonsense purists, who are also very knowledgeable, but keep a long stick up theirs butts since forever. The latter are not for me to convince about anything. I tend to react to newish people who don't know better and tend to pick up on the quote of the quote of the quote, effectively lending themselves to the legend-building machine that is all human conversation about the past. If it turns out fine - like with you - I'm happy, if not and continously, there's always the ignore list.
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    Sumo Talk revisited (split from another unrelated topic)

    Those are difficult question to answer satisfyingly in the off-topic hijacking of another thread. Let's say back then (my contributing career spanned from Nagoya 2008 to Hatsu 2013) the ST community (i.e. forum) was still existing and actually (in a very toxic, early-YT way) healthy. At that time, there was a (partly imagined) rivalry ongoing between SF snowflake purists, who wouldn't accept the thought a thrown bout, even if confessions written in the rikishis' own blood were filed to the Vatican archives, and the nutcase tinfoil hats of ST, who would not accept that any consequential bout could be untarnished. Naturally, it was more fun to rile up the purists. Note that I was and am moderate, at least that's my self-perception. Some insights from the time were valuable, IMHO. Nowadays it's pretty wild, but honestly, I haven't read anything there for years. And the forum is long dead. If you are interested in what I poured out back then, here's my debut report, and two other random days, like here and there. For all the criticism towards Mike, he was the one who organized some semi-legal stream acquired through some technical gizmo in order to provide live footage back then for the masses, when no-one else could watch otherwise.