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  1. yorikiried by fate

    Sumo Talk revisited (split from another unrelated topic)

    Yes, OK, but I cannot relate that person to a former ST contributor. But we don't have to name names.
  2. yorikiried by fate

    Sumo Talk revisited (split from another unrelated topic)

    If the ST forum would be operational, I could go full forensic on that one, but alas! From memory it was like this: Mike, who never posted enything in the forum, was quoted as trying to set up some stream. He obviously involved more tech savy guys, most likely Mario, he of the LHC and Estonian persuasion. From what I gather, it involved some person with access to NHK coverage (I assumed Mike himself with some sort of expensive subscription; maybe some of the people in Japan, like Clancy) to grab the signal and splice it into some server, hence the gadget comment. The link was then shared in forum. At first openly, but then some mass paranoia ensued, so after a while, it was hidden in a section open for specific usergroups, with invitations shared by and to "trustworthy" people (a lot of SF regulars suddenly turned up, I remember...). It was all a bit childish, but exiting. So when I wrote "the masses", it was actually a bunch of massively hermetic freaks. But that was running for about two years IIRC, and stopped, when the NSKs free lizard people stream got upgraded. Don't quote me on any of that, it's some time ago and the plot was lost with the forum. See, I didn't know any of that, or I may have partly forgotten. The translation thing rings a bell, as well as the Clancy thing. You might have mentioned that. Clancy always was quite the character, as were others in that special webitat. Who is our forum owner? That part is really news to me. No worries. Your first post to which I reacted sounded to me less hostile, but instead underinformed. You have to realize, conversation about ST has become highly symbolical and in part near-fictional here in SF. At least, if people try to reconstruct the situation 10-15 years ago by deducing it part from (bad) memory and mostly from the zombie-like activities there from today. Thus, most of the occasional ST talk around here is to be considered condensed and symbolical at best. We were not all Flat Earthers. If (my) memory serves, the two tribes thing went from "I don't know them but they suck" to some genuinely warm crossover teasing, with a small group of people posting both here and there. ST even had a team of players under that banner in one of the more popular sumo games, bantering along with the other ichimon from here or e.g. the German groups (and we were good!!!). All this somewhat imploded after a while. Traffic on the forum, which was always much less than on SF, reached the critical lower threshold and eventually died. Several people moved to the busier place, i.e. SF, since the welcome had turned out to be friendlier than expected. Many people just disappeared. That Mike's commentary slowly moved from controversial but informed to fringe/cringe to comedy to self-parody didn't really help. If I was asked how I would see myself in all of this - which I wasn't, but I indulge myself: I am happy to have found a healthy, enduring harbour for sharing sumo interest, collecting likes for inconsequential one-liners, dropping silly photoshops, being geeky. And: This is a place with quite a few selfmade experts, who invest an immense amount of time in gathering, processing and relaying highly intricate and detailed knowledge for others to share in. Every good forum has a couple of those, but here it seems to me a rather large group (and I don't count myself into that bunch at all; very far from it). That being said, I see myself as a corrective voice when certain ST related comments pop up (provided I notice them). Even in a generally enlightened place like here, people are craving for dichotomy. Prominent SF figures (and I'm only naming who is already involved in this particular thread, either by Post or Like) have positioned themselves in various ways. The most honorable Kintamayama-san is - like is his habit - the furthest on his Dao. From personal comments I gather that for himself he transcended the original purist-nutcase-struggle. Another guy like Randomitsuki always went full sciency on all or at least the nuttier parts of the ST spectrum. All the while he kept an open mind at all times and is a joy to converse with (alas, too little for years now). Others with stricter positions tend to keep silent or at minimal level of involvement (albeit peppered with snarkiness). And finally, there still are the real-for-real no-nonsense purists, who are also very knowledgeable, but keep a long stick up theirs butts since forever. The latter are not for me to convince about anything. I tend to react to newish people who don't know better and tend to pick up on the quote of the quote of the quote, effectively lending themselves to the legend-building machine that is all human conversation about the past. If it turns out fine - like with you - I'm happy, if not and continously, there's always the ignore list.
  3. yorikiried by fate

    Sumo Talk revisited (split from another unrelated topic)

    Those are difficult question to answer satisfyingly in the off-topic hijacking of another thread. Let's say back then (my contributing career spanned from Nagoya 2008 to Hatsu 2013) the ST community (i.e. forum) was still existing and actually (in a very toxic, early-YT way) healthy. At that time, there was a (partly imagined) rivalry ongoing between SF snowflake purists, who wouldn't accept the thought a thrown bout, even if confessions written in the rikishis' own blood were filed to the Vatican archives, and the nutcase tinfoil hats of ST, who would not accept that any consequential bout could be untarnished. Naturally, it was more fun to rile up the purists. Note that I was and am moderate, at least that's my self-perception. Some insights from the time were valuable, IMHO. Nowadays it's pretty wild, but honestly, I haven't read anything there for years. And the forum is long dead. If you are interested in what I poured out back then, here's my debut report, and two other random days, like here and there. For all the criticism towards Mike, he was the one who organized some semi-legal stream acquired through some technical gizmo in order to provide live footage back then for the masses, when no-one else could watch otherwise.
  4. yorikiried by fate

    Sumo Talk revisited (split from another unrelated topic)

    I traveled to Utah and tried to talk (pun intended) sense into Mike. A very long process and I failed. Apart from that? There's this life thing going on. That peciuliar entity sends me avatars regularly, calling themselves strange names like "wife" and "children". It's all very confusing. But I'm lurking around, no worries. But it's a slippery slope. If I don't pay attention, I lose the basis for prticipating meaningfully. If that happens, engagement becomes less, etc.
  5. yorikiried by fate

    Sumo Talk revisited (split from another unrelated topic)

    So, would you like to talk to me about anything?
  6. yorikiried by fate

    Nagoya 2022 day After pics overview

    Mongolian Sub-Doom-Hop
  7. yorikiried by fate

    Nagoya 2022 day After pics overview

    Jeez, this looks like from a funeral.
  8. yorikiried by fate

    Nagoya 2022 day 15 pics overview

    Some silliness:
  9. yorikiried by fate

    Promotion/Demotion and Yusho Talk, Nagoya 2022

    You took the words out of my fingers. But let's not kid ourselves. The end result will be outrageous regardless.
  10. yorikiried by fate

    Trivia bits

    Royal visit, maybe?
  11. yorikiried by fate

    Trivia bits

    Only the second time in the 6bpy era that three consecutive Makuuchi yusho were achieved with 12 or less wins. The first one was in the period of 1972.01-05 with 11, 12 and 12 wins, respectively. Fascinatingly, the 1972.01 tournament was won by M5 Tochiazuma I. without a playoff (6 guys ended up at 10-5, two of whom lost in regulation on the final day). Note that Makuuchi consisted of 36 members in those day, in contrast to today's 42. FWIW. This is another indicator of transition times. 1972.05 saw Wajima's first yusho (from Sekiwake rank), while it was also Kitanoumi's Makuuchi debut basho (9-6).
  12. yorikiried by fate

    Trivia bits

    Good catch. I thought I could be in trouble when I checked your example query further up. (And I'm using the rank restriction *constantly* when compiling graph related data...)
  13. yorikiried by fate

    Trivia bits

    Triple post time. The second table technically misses the co-third-place of 1984.01, where the seven co-leaders stood at 7-1! Honorary mention to 1989.03 and 2012.09, where the number of 8-0 guys at Nakabi where an insane 6 and 5, respectively.
  14. yorikiried by fate

    Trivia bits

    Sorry for not providing a query, because there's none that I know of. I combined two queries via a disgustingly pedestrian double value check in Excel, for which I am ashamed.
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    Trivia bits

    Nakabi Trivia This is the second basho in a row that looks like someone applied a Lo-Pass Filter at half-time. Which sparked my curiosity. So for the customary period 1958+, the Top 5 basho for number of guys with positive scores at Nakabi in absence of anyone with 7 or 8 wins, looks like this: 1. 2022.07 17 2. 2022.05 16 3. 1975.07 15 3. 2003.07 15 3. 2020.09 15 And in the related category of number of co-leaders at Nakabi, the Top 3 looks thusly: 1. 2003.07 10 2. 2020.09 9 3. 2022.07 7 Both tables are naturally a function of flat playing field topology, aka they all suck alike, aka no-one really dominates.