Asashosakari

Nearly forgot to enter this time myself, too. Behold, my "same weird stuff as they did for Nagoya" approach ended up producing this: Hakuho (Y1e 14-1 Y) Y1 Harumafuji (Y1w 11-4) Kisenosato (Y2e 2-4-9) Y2 Kakuryu (Y2w 2-2-11) Takayasu (O2e 9-6) O1 Goeido (O1w 7-8) Terunofuji (O1e 1-5-9) O2 --- Mitakeumi (Sw 9-6) S Yoshikaze (Ke 9-6) Tamawashi (Se 7-8) K Tochiozan (M5w 12-3) Tochinoshin (M2e 9-6) M1 Aoiyama (M8e 13-2) Hokutofuji (M2w 8-7) M2 Kotoshogiku (Kw 7-8) Onosho (M6w 10-5) M3 Shodai (M1e 5-10) Takakeisho (M1w 5-10) M4 Ura (M4e 7-8) Chiyotairyu (M10e 10-5) M5 Shohozan (M10w 10-5) Ichinojo (M6e 7-8) M6 Ikioi (M3e 4-11) Kagayaki (M4w 5-10) M7 Chiyoshoma (M5e 5-10) Takarafuji (M13e 9-6) M8 Chiyonokuni (M11e 8-7) Ishiura (M8w 7-8) M9 Takanoiwa (M7e 6-9) Arawashi (M12e 8-7) M10 Takekaze (M12w 8-7) Daieisho (M7w 5-10) M11 Chiyomaru (M15w 9-6) Daishomaru (M11w 7-8) M12 Sadanoumi (M14e 8-7) Endo (M3w 2-3-10) M13 Nishikigi (M15e 8-7) Kaisei (J1e 10-5) M14 Okinoumi (M9w 5-10) Yutakayama (J5e 11-4) M15 Asanoyama (J5w 11-4) Tokushoryu (M9e 4-11) M16 --- I have a feeling this is either going to result in a brilliant score, or in a makekoshi...

Wikipedia says yes.

Kakizoe zensho-yusho! Wait, what?

And also pertaining to the bolded part - the skill difference per rank is a lot smaller in the lower divisions. Moving up from Jonidan 50 to Jonidan 25 (490th -> 440th position) requires a lot less improvement in skill than moving up from Ms60 to Ms35 (190th -> 140th), let alone moving up from J14 to M5 (70th -> ~20th). Which is of course a major reason that they do larger banzuke movements further down the rankings. Having all banzuke ranks spaced equally exaggerates both the importance and the difficulty of a rikishi's movements through the lower/lowest divisions.

Is this a test? If not, it will help if you tell us which video you made these screencaps from...

Certainly one of the bigger what-if stories in sumo in recent years (KK in juryo as a 20-year-old!), made even more prominent by how long he decided to stick it out even when it became apparent that juryo wasn't going to get back in his reach. Diabetes-related issues reportedly played a big role in his loss of ability. Best of luck to him in his future life! DB link: Dewaotori

After nearly four months there's a news update on the website of Akebono's promotion company, announcing the org's next pro-wrestling card for August 22nd. Only limited new information about Akebono himself, but the post does say that he is not scheduled to participate due to ongoing medical treatment.

I'm still pretty sure that I'm going to have to rename this thread back to Kyushu for Byambasuren in the end anyway, so it's okay. Just to add, the article about Naya says that he'll be turning pro after the (junior) Kokutai in early October. That's also the main reason I don't actually expect Byambasuren to be in the September shindeshi examination.

I'm not fully convinced, but let's retitle the thread for now.

http://www.hochi.co.jp/sports/sumo/20170805-OHT1T50201.html Fresh off being awarded runner-up honours in this year's National Inter-High tournament, it's being said that Asashoryu's 18-year-old nephew Byambasuren indecipherable-patronymic (スカラグチャー・ビャンバスレン *) is set to join Tatsunami-beya. Ryuonami, the stable's last of at point three foreign rikishi, retired back in March. Byambasuren's debut is targetted for November, which I take to mean he'll get the usual one-basho delay and actually step on the dohyo in January after finishing up his coursework, as is customary for many joining out of high school. (Edit: Or perhaps not, see posts below.) More background in the linked post as well as the follow-up in the same thread over in Amasumo. * Apparently the father is not one of Asashoryu's well-known two martial arts brothers, but a different one not mentioned before? A few more earlier mentions of Byambasuren on the forum: 2016 Inter-High, 2016 Kokutai. And a previous article by Sports Hochi from back in April when Byambasuren (then still listed as a 17-year-old) got to have some keiko against Hakuho.

Tier 4: What a difference six months can make. Back after his January 3-4 it looked like Daiseido's latest revival might end up as just the next part of the ups and downs that have characterized his career for the last five years. 16 wins and 5 losses later he's going to juryo. Well done! It remains to be seen if the 24-year-old can truly establish himself as a sekitori or if he'll just continue to bounce around at a higher level than before, but even after half a decade in makushita he's certainly still young enough for a lengthy sekitori career. Two others may have laid the groundwork to follow him soon. Kizaki ran his KK streak to 8 basho with a 5-2 and he will be making his first appearance in the promotion zone next time. And so will Kotodaigo who's on a 5-KK streak of his own after his 6-1 Nagoya score as it looks like he's finally back to the promising form he showed more than two years ago before getting injured. The rest of this section produced entirely unspectacular results with Tochimaru's 5-2 from a fairly low rank the biggest highlight in the lot, and again none of them will be ranked inside the makushita-joi for Aki basho. Heisei Hopefuls for Nagoya 2017 - Tier 4: Last Chance Saloon - Ms15+ Age 25 and under Rikishi Heya DOB Debut HiRk 2016.09 2016.11 2017.01 2017.03 2017.05 2017.07 Daiseido Kise 1992/12/30 (56) 2011.05 Ms3 Ms28e 4-3 Ms22e 5-2 Ms11w 3-4 Ms18e 5-2 Ms11e 6-1 Ms3e 5-2 Kizaki Kise 1993/05/06 (53) 2016.03 Ms7 Sd39w 7-0 Y Ms26e 4-3 Ms21e 5-2 Ms13w 5-2 Ms9e 4-3 Ms7e 5-2 Kotodaigo Sadogatake 1993/01/14 (54) 2011.05 Ms8 Ms48w 2-5 Sd10w 6-1 Ms34e 5-2 Ms21w 4-3 Ms16w 4-3 Ms13w 6-1 Shiba Kise 1991/12/24 (63) 2014.03 Ms3 Ms11e 4-3 Ms8w 5-2 Ms5e 3-4 Ms8w 1-6 Ms28e 5-2 Ms19e 3-4 Chiyonoumi Kokonoe 1993/01/11 (55) 2015.05 Ms13 Sd94e 6-1 Sd36e 5-2 Sd7e 6-1 Ms32e 4-3 Ms26w 4-3 Ms22e 2-5 Irodori Shikoroyama 1992/03/10 (61) 2007.03 Ms8 Ms14w 5-2 Ms8e 3-4 Ms12e 3-4 Ms18w 5-2 Ms12w 2-5 Ms29e 3-4 Tamaki Takasago 1993/05/29 (52) 2016.01 Ms10 Ms41e 6-1 Ms17e 4-3 Ms10w 3-4 Ms15e 3-4 Ms20w 3-4 Ms30w 4-3 Akinohana Takadagawa 1992/11/30 (57) 2008.03 Ms6 Ms16e 4-3 Ms10w 1-6 Ms31w 3-4 Ms43w 4-3 Ms37e 4-3 Ms31w 4-3 Tochimaru Kasugano 1992/08/26 (58) 2011.05 Ms3 Ms9w 5-2 Ms4w 4-3 Ms3w 3-4 Ms7e 2-5 Ms16e 2-5 Ms32e 5-2 Wakatakamoto Arashio 1991/12/29 (62) 2009.11 Ms11 Ms11w 1-2-4 Ms30w 0-0-7 Sd10w 5-2 Ms48e 4-3 Ms39e 3-4 Ms49e 4-3 Ayanoumi Yamahibiki 1992/03/23 (60) 2007.03 Ms14 Ms44w 3-4 Ms55e 5-2 Ms37e 4-3 Ms33w 1-6 Sd5w 4-3 Ms56e 3-4 Wakayama Onomatsu 1992/04/26 (59) 2011.07 Ms15 Jk25e 0-0-7 Mz 3-0 Jk16w 6-1 Y Jd32e 7-0 Y Sd32e 4-3 Sd16e 3-4 No upcoming new entrants here.

Tier 3: A bit of an unexpected promotion out of this tier thanks to Natsu basho's MsTd starter Yago who followed up on his 5-2 debut with the zensho yusho to clinch his ticket for juryo. Congrats! As for our other high-ranking members: Masunosho produced his third straight basho in which he went from 2-3 to 4-3, scoring his first kachikoshi in the top 5 ranks in the process, so September will be his first really major opportunity to earn promotion to the sekitori ranks; he should be ranked either Ms2 or Ms3 where another 4-win record might be good enough. Hakuyozan was back in the promotion zone for the first time in a year, but unfortunately fell to makekoshi early at 1-4 and had to salvage a 3-4 score in the end. Tsurubayashi and Takemasa held the two Ms8 spots in July, both reaching a new career-best mark with that, but suffered heavy losses and finished only 1-6 and 2-5. Our last top 15 ranker Wakamotoharu wasn't able to arrest his slide, picked up his 3rd consecutive 3-4 result, and will fall back further. Other records of interest were provided by the other makushita tsukedashi Mitoryu who bounced back from his debut MK with 5 wins this time, still-fresh Mongolian talent Asahiryu who appears to have found his level in the middle of the division for now and went 3-4, and the recent SdTd's Murata and Wakatakakage who successfully followed up on their May 7-0's with strong records in mid-makushita, with the former going 5-2 and the latter even 6-1. Another 6-1 score was achieved by Kotokuzan who will be returning to near his career-high ranking for Aki basho (possibly even setting a new mark). Heisei Hopefuls for Nagoya 2017 - Tier 3: Still Worth Watching - Age 23 and under Rikishi Heya DOB Debut HiRk 2016.09 2016.11 2017.01 2017.03 2017.05 2017.07 Hakuyozan Takadagawa 1995/04/13 (22) 2011.05 Ms1 Ms27e 4-3 Ms20w 4-3 Ms14e 4-3 Ms11w 5-2 Ms7w 5-2 Ms4e 3-4 Masunosho Chiganoura 1994/11/14 (27) 2010.03 Ms5 Ms13w 5-2 Ms6e 2-5 Ms15e 5-2 Ms8e 4-3 Ms6w 4-3 Ms5e 4-3 Tsurubayashi Kise 1993/12/31 (44) 2009.03 Ms8 Ms39w 5-2 Ms28e 5-2 Ms18e 4-3 Ms14w 4-3 Ms12e 5-2 Ms8e 1-6 Takemasa Onomatsu 1993/10/22 (46) 2016.03 Ms8 Sd92e 6-1 Sd33w 4-3 Sd16w 7-0 Y Ms13e 4-3 Ms10w 4-3 Ms8w 2-5 Yago Oguruma 1994/07/08 (34) 2017.05 Ms11 Ms15Td 5-2 Ms11e 7-0 Y Wakamotoharu Arashio 1993/10/05 (47) 2011.11 Ms5 Ms16w 4-3 Ms12w 4-3 Ms8e 4-3 Ms5w 3-4 Ms9w 3-4 Ms14e 3-4 Mitoryu Nishikido 1994/04/25 (38) 2017.05 Ms15 Ms15Td 3-4 Ms23w 5-2 Asahiryu Asahiyama 1995/04/22 (21) 2016.05 Ms23 Jd45e 6-1 Sd79w 7-0 D Ms51e 6-1 Ms23e 3-4 Ms31w 4-3 Ms24e 3-4 Murata Takasago 1994/08/08 (32) 2017.03 Ms27 Sd100Td 6-1 Sd39e 7-0 D Ms27e 5-2 Rikito Tokitsukaze 1993/09/21 (48) 2011.09 Ms19 Ms19e 2-5 Ms32e 3-4 Ms38w 4-3 Ms34w 2-5 Sd1e 6-1 Ms30e 0-7 Hokutokawa Hakkaku 1994/08/15 (31) 2013.03 Ms31 Sd5e 3-4 Sd19w 5-2 Ms55e 5-2 Ms39e 3-4 Ms46w 5-2 Ms31e 3-4 Tochiseiryu Kasugano 1995/04/26 (20) 2014.03 Ms33 Ms54w 4-3 Ms47e 2-5 Sd4w 3-4 Sd24w 4-3 Sd11e 6-1 Ms35e 4-3 Wakatakakage Arashio 1994/12/06 (25) 2017.03 Ms38 Sd100Td 5-2 Sd63w 7-0 Y Ms38w 6-1 Hatooka Kise 1994/02/23 (42) 2016.03 Ms30 Sd70w 6-1 Sd15e 5-2 Ms50w 5-2 Ms36e 4-3 Ms30e 3-4 Ms41w 4-3 Ichiki Tamanoi 1993/11/13 (45) 2016.01 Ms16 Sd14e 5-2 Ms53w 6-1 Ms24w 5-2 Ms16w 3-4 Ms23w 2-5 Ms44e 2-5 Yutakasho Sakaigawa 1994/11/19 (26) 2013.03 Ms49 Sd20w 0-0-7 Sd81e 6-1 Sd23w 4-3 Sd12w 3-4 Sd32w 6-1 Ms49w 2-5 Nishiyama Onoe 1994/04/27 (37) 2010.03 Ms22 Sd14w 5-2 Ms54e 3-4 Sd2e 3-4 Sd17w 4-3 Ms60w 4-3 Ms50e 3-4 Hokutoshu Hakkaku 1994/01/14 (43) 2012.03 Ms50 Sd31w 5-2 Sd5w 4-3 Ms55w 2-5 Sd16e 4-3 Sd4w 4-3 Ms54w 4-3 Kaiseio Asakayama 1995/01/28 (23) 2013.03 Ms18 Ms18w 2-5 Ms31e 0-7 Sd6w 5-2 Ms46w 5-2 Ms35w 2-5 Ms55w 5-2 Kotohayato Sadogatake 1994/04/18 (39) 2010.03 Ms48 Sd11w 4-3 Ms60w 3-4 Sd12w 3-4 Sd31w 6-1 Ms48w 3-4 Ms58e 3-4 Kotokuzan Arashio 1994/03/11 (41) 2009.09 Ms28 Sd9e 6-1 Ms34w 4-3 Ms28w 2-5 Ms50e 5-2 Ms37w 2-5 Ms59e 6-1 Fukamiyama Onoe 1994/11/12 (28) 2010.03 Ms47 Sd4e 5-2 Ms49e 3-4 Ms56w 4-3 Ms47e 2-5 Sd12e 4-3 Sd1w 3-4 Kaizen Asakayama 1993/07/29 (51) 2016.01 Ms57 Sd36w 2-5 Sd62e 6-1 Sd8e 4-3 Ms57e 3-4 Sd12w 4-3 Sd2e 4-3 Tochinobori Kasugano 1993/09/01 (49) 2009.03 Ms12 Ms41w 4-3 Ms31w 4-3 Ms26e 4-3 Ms22e 3-4 Ms31e 0-2-5 Sd6w 4-3 Shinohara Onomatsu 1993/08/21 (50) 2012.01 Ms28 Ms53e 2-5 Sd16e 3-4 Sd30e 5-2 Sd6e 2-5 Sd34e 5-2 Sd8e 4-3 Kotonoshu Sadogatake 1994/07/01 (35) 2010.03 Ms53 Sd16w 3-4 Sd31e 4-3 Sd14w 4-3 Sd4e 1-5-1 Sd40w 5-2 Sd15e 3-1-3 Kirinofuji Michinoku 1994/07/28 (33) 2011.01 Ms52 Sd1w 2-5 Sd24e 5-2 Ms59e 3-4 Sd14w 2-5 Sd44e 5-2 Sd17e 3-4 Musashikuni Musashigawa 1994/12/17 (24) 2013.07 Ms26 Ms26e 2-5 Ms43w 2-5 Ms59w 5-2 Ms41w 3-4 Ms53e 2-5 Sd21w 4-3 Itadaki Isenoumi 1994/09/05 (30) 2010.03 Ms56 Sd64w 4-3 Sd46e 4-3 Sd29w 4-3 Sd16w 5-2 Ms56w 2-5 Sd23w 5-2 Aomihama Dewanoumi 1994/10/27 (29) 2010.03 Ms49 Sd31e 3-4 Sd50w 3-4 Sd61e 6-1 Sd7e 4-3 Ms57e 2-5 Sd24w 5-2 Chiyonokatsu Kokonoe 1994/04/13 (40) 2013.03 Ms57 Sd28e 3-4 Sd48e 6-1 Ms57e 2-5 Sd22w 4-3 Sd8w 2-5 Sd38e 5-2 Baraki Shikihide 1994/05/10 (36) 2013.01 Ms58 Sd63e 4-3 Sd44e 4-3 Sd25e 3-4 Sd45e 3-4 Sd65w 3-4 Sd84w 5-2 The 24th birthday has beckoned for Kaizen and Shinohara which means they have exhausted their eligibility for Tier 3. Kaizen is still relatively new on the scene, but his struggling just to post 4 wins in upper sandanme is not a great sign, while Shinohara has already spent more than a dozen tournaments in makushita but has yet to KK above Ms48 and has been mired in sandanme for the last year. I would be surprised if either will be seen above Ms15 in the next couple of years to requalify for Tier 4, let alone wear a kesho-mawashi in the future. One new face will be joining us: Rikishi Heya DOB Debut HiRk 2016.09 2016.11 2017.01 2017.03 2017.05 2017.07 Ichiyamamoto Nishonoseki 1993/10/01 2017.01 Sd49 Mz 3-0 Jk15e 7-0 Y Jd10e 6-1 Sd49e 6-1 And here's the problem (as far as this thread goes) with rikishi who are eligible for professional sumo under the new rules allowing over-22's to join: They're just not very prospect-worthy unless they immediately race through to the top of makushita. Chuo university product Ichiyamamoto already turns 24 after Aki basho and short of a 7-0 debut in makushita it'll mean his time in Tier 3 will be over after just that one tournament. Will he be good enough to re-appear in Tier 4 as a makushita-joi later on? I honestly have no idea, though last 16 at the student national championships (as a senior-year student in 2015) plus last 16 at last year's Kokutai (representing Hokkaido prefecture) seems a little bit short of can't-miss qualifications. As usual, the 19-2 career-starting record alone doesn't mean much. There's no video of him from Nagoya basho, but if you're so inclined you can watch quite a bit of coverage by One And Only from Haru and Natsu.

Short and to the point. Welcome!

Not sure if this is the right place to report this: http://norizo.sumogames.jp/en/result.html is missing the data for 2011 Nagoya basho (series 70). In addition, all English banzuke pages since 2013 Aki are empty if there is "change registration" data for the basho.

I wouldn't be surprised if they generally try to avoid it, though real names like Kotobuki (or currently not-Takasago Asakura and not-Chiganoura Masuyama) are probably not something anyone really cares about. Not-Hakkaku Hokutoryu is an interesting case right now, although Hakkaku rikishi rarely use the long-vowel reading for the to. The closest current cases might be not-Tomozuna/Asakayama Kairyu and Kaishin. Or maybe the various not-Takanohana Taka* rikishi, but some of them have a claim of their own (a few Azumazeki guys via Takamiyama especially).