Aki Basho 2018 Discussion [SPOILERS]

[Ryoshishokunin 332]

2 minutes ago, Akōgyokuseki said:

After reading up on his injury, it's obvious he shouldn't have come back,...but you can't blame the lad I suppose.

No,  but you can blame his coach and the system.  If and only if he a) can't do himself more harm and b) delaying treatment won't cause him more harm should he be allowed anywhere near the dohyo.    

[Jakusotsu 6,390]

Did Onosho pull Daishomaru down by his ear??

[Jakusotsu 6,390]

2 hours ago, Joaoiyama said:

Endo never had his left hand down, which i found quite disrespectful towards a Yokozuna.

Still, Endo had the other hand firmly on the ground in all four attempts while it was always Kise who jumped the gun without touching down, and yet the gyoji kept on scolding Endo everytime. Bizarre!

[Akōgyokuseki 229]

15 minutes ago, Ryoshishokunin said:

No,  but you can blame his coach and the system.  If and only if he a) can't do himself more harm and b) delaying treatment won't cause him more harm should he be allowed anywhere near the dohyo.    

Great comment. I think some serious reform needs to be done, in respect to allowing Rikishi adequate time to heal bad injuries. Kyokutaisei's injuries were listed as Meniscus damage to both knees, this can lead to arthritis if not rested appropriately at the time of the injury occuring and whilst healing. I think the website i was reading on stated something like a months rest, which isn't going to be easy for him to get. I know being a Rikishi means you have to 'tough it out', but seriously, when will someone cut these lads some slack....

[kuroimori 1,634]

4 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said:

Still, Endo had the other hand firmly on the ground in all four attempts while it was always Kise who jumped the gun without touching down, and yet the gyoji kept on scolding Endo everytime. Bizarre!

Yeah, and guess who did not had not even one hand down at the 4th attempt...

[Eikokurai 3,437]

I’ve not paid Kakuryu all that much attention so far this basho as he’s been boringly on form, but I was very impressed with him today. He had no right to take Mitakeumi all the way back across the ring but he did it to him anyway made it look effortless. Remarkable strength and control. Mita had no defence.

[Kintamayama 47,194]

Kisenosato and Endou were called to the Principal's office today and received an oral warning about their bad tachiais. The gyoji kept warning Endou, but Fujishima Deputy Director of Judging  said they were both to blame.

[Fede 45]

3 hours ago, Rainoyama said:

Dame oshi by the Dai Yokozuna Hakuhou again today…

That's why I don't like Hakuho.

Anyway, Kise… Why not…?

Edited September 18, 2018 by Fede

[Tsuchinoninjin 1,291]

1 hour ago, Kintamayama said:

Kisenosato and Endou were called to the Principal's office today and received an oral warning about their bad tachiais. The gyoji kept warning Endou, but Fujishima Deputy Director of Judging  said they were both to blame.

Thank you Fujishima Deputy Director from saving this forum a lot of heart burn.

[Amamaniac 2,091]

Two straight days without any monoii called in the Top Division!  Yesterday, the close decision between Kagayaki and Chiyonokuni was not reviewed.  Today, I would say that the Shodai vs. Chiyotairyu bout deserved a review (probably the right call since Chiyo's feet left the dohyo before Shodai's leg dropped in), and the Onosho vs. Myogiryo bout should have been reviewed.  In the latter case, to my mind, there was hair grabbing by Onosho visible in the slow-motion replay.  Not surprising that the judges missed that since it took place lower down near the back of Myogiryo's neck.  

That's what we get when there were four monoii on Day 3.  Sigh.

[Amamaniac 2,091]

3 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

Kisenosato and Endou were called to the Principal's office today and received an oral warning about their bad tachiais. The gyoji kept warning Endou, but Fujishima Deputy Director of Judging  said they were both to blame.

Not sure if it is all the pressure, but Kisenosato has been making multiple false starts (matta) this tournament.  He did it on Days 3 and 8, and there were three mattas today (Tamajiro took issue with Endo not dropping his left hand at the tachiai, so in the end, Endo put both hands down straight away).  It is my impression that Yokozunas are expected never to matta.  Clearly, Kisenosato mattas/matters!

Edited September 18, 2018 by Amamaniac

[Amamaniac 2,091]

6 hours ago, robnplunder said:

A win or two against Hak & Kak would be good.  

Tomorrow's bout versus Ichinojo should be a give-me.  That would make 9 wins.  10 is a definite possibility.

[Churaumi 753]

I think it’s just nerves, I’d rather he matta all day instead of choking like he used to.

[ryafuji 824]

12 minutes ago, Amamaniac said:

 It is my impression that Yokozunas are expected never to matta.  

Futabayama is the gold standard; he supposedly never made one in his entire career.

[Adil 232]

9 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

Kesho mawashi closeup day !

Is there a video of today's kesho mawashi close-ups? Does it happen only once a basho?

[Akinomaki 41,779]

7 minutes ago, Adil said:

Is there a video of today's kesho mawashi close-ups? Does it happen only once a basho?

I think this close has never happened yet - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtE90ylTLg0

it happens once at some basho, at some not

[Dapeng 236]

5 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

Still, Endo had the other hand firmly on the ground in all four attempts while it was always Kise who jumped the gun without touching down, and yet the gyoji kept on scolding Endo everytime. Bizarre!

Anyway, with Kise secured kachikoshi, they can hitoanshin (relax) for a while ......

[Adil 232]

1 minute ago, Akinomaki said:

I think this close has never happened yet - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jtE90ylTLg0

it happens once at some basho, at some not

Thanks!!

Damn, I ran out of likes.

[Akinomaki 41,779]

Kyokutaisei aggravating his injury: "I should rest till it's properly healed" http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20180918/sum18091821560018-n1.html

kyujo forecast for tomorrow: 95%

Edited September 18, 2018 by Akinomaki

[Dapeng 236]

7 hours ago, Eikokurai said:

Kise ... earn himself some breathing space.

for all the kyokai too.

[Rocks 1,810]

3 minutes ago, Akinomaki said:

Kyokutaisei aggravating his injury: "I should rest till it's properly healed" http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20180918/sum18091821560018-n1.html

kyujo forecast for tomorrow: 95%

Smart. But I'll miss the easy pick in the games. Oh well, there is still Serio handing out free wins like candy in lower Juryo.

[Akōgyokuseki 229]

20 minutes ago, Akinomaki said:

Kyokutaisei aggravating his injury: "I should rest till it's properly healed

Wish he had not aggravated it and realised to late..

Thanks for the update!

[Dwale 419]

9 hours ago, Rainoyama said:

 Dame oshi by the Dai Yokozuna Hakuhou again today...

He doesn't like it when they make him work.

[Joaoiyama 318]

13 minutes ago, Dwale said:

He doesn't like it when they make him work.

I actually think he was mad and disappointed at Ichinojo for giving him an easy win, when Ichinojo went for the left over grip the match was over and you could see the anger on Hakuho's face.

[Rainoyama 1,157]

47 minutes ago, Dwale said:

He doesn't like it when they make him work.

 

28 minutes ago, Joaoiyama said:

I actually think he was mad and disappointed at Ichinojo for giving him an easy win, when Ichinojo went for the left over grip the match was over and you could see the anger on Hakuho's face.

Ichinojo is the best young mongolian talent now that Terunofuji is out of the picture, I think Hakuhou always tries make a point to teach him not to give up easily and literally "push" him to do more.  Ichinojo not improving like he should must be frustrating him. Hakuhou is still dominant but he knows he is nearing to the end of his career, he's going to be around until the olympics if he can, but is going to miss a few bashos every year, Kakuryu has never been this good at age 33 is going to dominate for a bit I think but is not going to last forever either. Ichinojo is the best guy from Mongolia after they are gone ( Chiyoshoma is not as good, Daishoho and Mitoryu are promising but I don't know if they'll ever be even Ozeki, Asashoryu's nephew seems pretty good but it's too early to tell just how much). Still there's the word dame which basicallly means "not good' in dame oshi so whatever the reason it's not something he should do.