Dapeng 232 Posted January 22, 2018 1 hour ago, Rocks said: I don't know why that frame would be chosen because it's 7 or 8 more at least before Ishiura's own knee is down which is the first point he is down. He is nowhere near down yet in this picture. Sokokurai is down there. In full motion you can even see the recoil in his thigh muscle as his knee hits the ground. I would upload a pic but it says I have a 20 KB limit. If his knee touched the dirt those in black clothes would not miss it because they were sitting and looking from the best angle. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,805 Posted January 22, 2018 Just now, Dapeng said: If his knee touched the dirt those in black clothes would not miss it because they were sitting and looking from the best angle. People always say that. If that were true those in black clothes wouldn't be standing around chatting waiting to hear from the video booth when they call a monoli. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rigel 62 Posted January 22, 2018 2 minutes ago, Rocks said: People always say that. If that were true those in black clothes wouldn't be standing around chatting waiting to hear from the video booth when they call a monoli. well if I knew someone else just as experienced or more in the sport as myself was watching slow-mo replay from multiple angles, I wouldn't say much either even if I was certain of what I thought I saw. I'd just go "I must be wrong, he's got access to video replay" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,805 Posted January 22, 2018 1 minute ago, Rigel said: well if I knew someone else just as experienced or more in the sport as myself was watching slow-mo replay from multiple angles, I wouldn't say much either even if I was certain of what I thought I saw. I'd just go "I must be wrong, he's got access to video replay" Exactly, which is why a monoli should have been called, along with a couple others, and wasn't. This was hardly a dead certain call with the naked eye. But I don't think they bothered here because it was clear Sokokurai had him and it's a low bout anyway. Sokokuari deserved the win, so they gave it to him. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yukiarashi 195 Posted January 22, 2018 Quote 1 hour ago, Sakura said: Hakuho seems irritated by him. Hakuho definitely seems to find a new way to punk with him everytime they go against each other, the jikan-mae, the nekodamashi, and just seems like he tries beating his face in every fight. He seems to strut around like he's a Yokozuna, with the steely-eyed look on his face, but with his sideburns he resembles more of a Japanese Elvis. That's probably what it is, Hakuho doesn't like Elvis. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 1,987 Posted January 22, 2018 2 hours ago, Dapeng said: If his knee touched the dirt those in black clothes would not miss it because they were sitting and looking from the best angle. So they are by default always right? BS. The following still is the fifth frame after Sokokurai's knee stopped moving downward in a clear uninterrupted motion. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senkoho 552 Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) Terutsuyoshi got so robbed I can't even wrap my mind around it...... Edited January 22, 2018 by Senkoho 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,870 Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Senkoho said: Terutsuyoshi got so robbed I can't even put my mind around it...... How did they give Kizenryu a torinaoshi????? Edited January 22, 2018 by Asojima Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pandaazuma 1,310 Posted January 22, 2018 8 minutes ago, Senkoho said: Terutsuyoshi got so robbed I can't even wrap my mind around it...... One of the worst decisions I've ever seen in 30+ years of watching sumo! I was questioning their sanity! Outrageous! 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,870 Posted January 22, 2018 21 minutes ago, yorikiried by fate said: The following still is the fifth frame after Sokokurai's knee stopped moving downward in a clear uninterrupted motion. With that view, I will concede a downed knee. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,088 Posted January 22, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Rocks said: Exactly, which is why a monoli should have been called, along with a couple others, and wasn't. This was hardly a dead certain call with the naked eye. But I don't think they bothered here because it was clear Sokokurai had him and it's a low bout anyway. Sokokuari deserved the win, so they gave it to him. I'm not so sure Sokokurai 'deserved' a win when his knee was down that much earlier (surprising that some have watched the replays yet denyed him touching first). I think part of good sumo is being able to use techniques and deal with your opponent in a manner that doesn't cause you to bungle up situations in which you seem to have an advantage. I missed the Kizenryu bout and hope it surfaces soon! Definitely some questionable calls this tournament. Edited January 22, 2018 by Katooshu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jyuunomori 226 Posted January 22, 2018 That may have been the most shameful decision I have ever seen the judges make. Just, what happened there? I cannot even remember a decision that bad, since...ever. Terutsuyoshi is not going to be happy about this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yukiarashi 195 Posted January 22, 2018 That has to be the dumbest decision I have ever seen! In what universe does Terutsuyoshi lose that match! Was it dead body? I can't think of any other conceivable reason for the torinaoshi Terutsuyoshi landed IN the ring! I guess if someone wins by Yoritaoshi tonight they'll be declared dead for having their feet leave the ground first. Daikiho, I mean Yamaguchi is starting to look like how he used to this basho. Clumsy sumo, and hard falls on his back was the reason for his early-career meltdown. 2-7 now. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kawabata 270 Posted January 22, 2018 5 hours ago, Rocks said: I don't know why that frame would be chosen because it's 7 or 8 more at least before Ishiura's own knee is down which is the first point he is down. He is nowhere near down yet in this picture. Sokokurai is down there. In full motion you can even see the recoil in his thigh muscle as his knee hits the ground. I would upload a pic but it says I have a 20 KB limit. Well it wasn't so much choosing a frame, as screen grabbing on the go (you can;t frame by frame advance on twitch that I am aware of, so apologies thats its not the best), but I was trying to show how Sōkokurai was down well ahead of Ishiura. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,761 Posted January 22, 2018 And the freak show continues: watching in real time it looked to me that Nishikigi's hand touched down way before Takekaze went out. Would have at least been worth a mono-ii if my eyes didn't deceive me. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yukiarashi 195 Posted January 22, 2018 National Screwed Month in Japan! Buy One Get One Drill Free at participating hardware stores! Join Terutsuyoshi and Daiamami for ceremonies! That slow-mo replay on the kensho giver was one of the most awesome things I've ever seen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Taikoubana 143 Posted January 22, 2018 I like the way they're zooming in on the yobidashi and letting us hear them call the rikishi. Is it a one-time thing, or is this something they'll be doing more often? I hope the latter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Munjeezy 60 Posted January 22, 2018 Tochinoshin with the no you will not fight off the straw bales lift out! I wish he always looked this strong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yukiarashi 195 Posted January 22, 2018 36 minutes ago, Taikoubana said: I like the way they're zooming in on the yobidashi and letting us hear them call the rikishi. Is it a one-time thing, or is this something they'll be doing more often? I hope the latter. They occasionally show stuff like this. I've seen them do gyoji, the television production in the back room, and even something about coloring black and white photos of old matches. This is the first day I've seen yobidashi and the inner-workings down on the around the dohyo. It was neat to see them show names and what's going on down there I hope they do this more often. It usually happens 1-2 times a basho I believe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Philioyamfugi 378 Posted January 22, 2018 Tochinoshin just doing beast sumo. He gets those hooks in and it's fun to watch. Hope he can stay healthy. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALAKTORN 346 Posted January 22, 2018 4 hours ago, Kawabata said: Well it wasn't so much choosing a frame, as screen grabbing on the go (you can;t frame by frame advance on twitch that I am aware of, so apologies thats its not the best), but I was trying to show how Sōkokurai was down well ahead of Ishiura. [ and ] to frame by frame Twitch. It’s a pretty silly choice of keys and a bit junky but it works. Tochinoshin… wow. Anyone got the Terutsuyoshi bout vid? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dapeng 232 Posted January 22, 2018 7 hours ago, yorikiried by fate said: So they are by default always right? BS. The following still is the fifth frame after Sokokurai's knee stopped moving downward in a clear uninterrupted motion. One question, does the "dead body" apply in this case? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 1,987 Posted January 22, 2018 No. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yatagarasu 352 Posted January 22, 2018 Tochinoshin! It was as though he was just picking up a little bug, complete with tiny legs flailing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,761 Posted January 22, 2018 "Dead body" might apply to the Nishikigi-Takekaze case, but I'd still have liked to see it confirmed by mono-ii. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
