Shatsume 118 Posted September 13, 2017 19 hours ago, McBugger said: I'm sorry, I'm just bad at explaining things. Fatal flaw. All I meant is, for there to be a hiramaku rank as low as 18 East, which could beat Dewaminato's record yusho rank of M17w, and supposing only 2 komusubi and 2 sekiwake, the largest possible tally of banzuke-listed rikishi ranked at yokozuna or ozeki is 3, be it 3Y, 2Y+1O, 1Y+2O or 3O. There's 42 makuuchi rikishi in every banzuke. We want there to be a rikishi at M18e. That means we need 17 full maegashira pairs plus one more guy. So that's 35. Add 2 komusubi and 2 sekiwake, that's 39 of the 42 rikishi already accounted for. So that leaves us with a maximum of 3 Y/O. I see where you are coming from, the opposite direction! I was thinking about min, you were talking max :) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benihana 1,937 Posted September 13, 2017 I remember something from before the basho about some lizardpeople whining, that the poor viewers, who paid lots of moneys for their tickets now only get to see a single yokozuna. As much as i hate this basho with my favourites gravely injured or failing, i think it is worth those lots of moneys until now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,553 Posted September 13, 2017 I officially christen this basho as "Wacky Aki", so we don't forget it in the future (those of us who have a future..) 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amamaniac 2,079 Posted September 13, 2017 (edited) As our attention is drawn to all the 4-0 Maegashira wrestlers making a charge for the championship (with Kotoshogiku making a comeback of sorts), the elite ranks are not living up to their hype. Harumafuji's chances to win his ninth yusho are rapidly fading. He can't even count on any help from stablemate, Terunofuji! The way things are going for the 25-year-old (i.e., Teru), he will probably lose his Ozeki status by the end of this tournament. It would be ironic if a former Ozeki wins the championship while another Ozeki becomes a former Ozeki... #WackyAki Edited September 13, 2017 by Amamaniac 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sokkenaiyama 81 Posted September 13, 2017 And there I was, thinking the US Open draw was depleted... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwale 419 Posted September 13, 2017 2 hours ago, Rob S. said: Harumafuji absorbed Mitakeumi's fighting spirit with that end of bout nodowa in Nagoya on day 12. He hasn't been the same since. Didn't realize that Shang Tsung **** was legal in sumo. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,688 Posted September 13, 2017 41 minutes ago, Kintamayama said: I officially christen this basho as "Wacky Aki", so we don't forget it in the future (those of us who have a future..) Was waiting for a nickname of that sort from you, but given all the injuries, I thought you'd repurpose "Aki Breaky"... 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,553 Posted September 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Asashosakari said: Was waiting for a nickname of that sort from you, but given all the injuries, I thought you'd repurpose "Aki Breaky"... Well, not only the injuries make this Aki wacky, I say.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted September 13, 2017 1 minute ago, Kintamayama said: Well, not only the injuries make this Aki wacky, I say.. What is the correct pronunciation of 'Aki'? Does it rhyme with 'me' or with 'my'? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,553 Posted September 13, 2017 Just now, Bumpkin said: What is the correct pronunciation of 'Aki'? Does it rhyme with 'me' or with 'my'? Me, rhymes more or less with wacky.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fukurou 534 Posted September 13, 2017 17 minutes ago, Bumpkin said: What is the correct pronunciation of 'Aki'? Does it rhyme with 'me' or with 'my'? The "ki" in Aki is the same as "key" as in a door key (rhymes with "me"). At least that's how I was once told to pronounce it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted September 13, 2017 Thank you, Kintamayama and Fukurou? (I won't ask how to pronounce Fukurou!) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted September 13, 2017 The most surprising bout of Day 4 was M6w Kagayaki (1-3) oshitaoshi win against M5w Takakeisho (3-1). This was the first time I noticed Kagayaki for his sumo rather than his man boobs. Also, when was the last time Bowling Ball was, well, bowled over? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 1,303 Posted September 13, 2017 Wow, intense day. Kaiou... I mean, Hokutofuji did perfect sumo today - withstood Harumafuji's initial charge, but into a good position and just escorted him out. He's got good reason to be happy with himself today,and not only because of the kinboshi money. Okinoumi shouldn't have lost his bout. Maybe his still not quite well? Props to Ishiura for taking Chiyomaru head on and winning. Chiyomaru often doesn't seem to be able to utilise his weight fully to his advantage. But I also need to keep reminding myself that even though Ishiura looks small, the guy actually weighs 120 kg. Chiyonokuni's sumo is a bit too earnest or naive for his own good. It's endearing and sometimes even works, but other times it gets him sent to the orbit (to borrow Kintamayama's words). Kagayaki's win was no easy feat, since Takakeisho has a much lower centre of gravity and knows how to use it well. Well deserved for Kagayaki. Terunofuji can't afford to lose more if he is to stay in the yusho race. Anyone can get 12 wins these days, as last basho showed. But I suspect by the end of the basho he might be struggling to retain his rank. Goeido meanwhile is very determined to stay as an Ozeki. He'll probably make it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,553 Posted September 13, 2017 Aki- correct pronunciation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaninoyama 1,818 Posted September 13, 2017 Chiyotairyuu has impressed with his newly added heft. I wonder if he took note of Takayasu's success after Taka added significant bulk and decided to follow suit. Chiyo's always been tough to beat when he dominates the tachi-ai, and should be even more so now with the increased mass. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,677 Posted September 14, 2017 7 hours ago, Kintamayama said: I officially christen this basho as "Wacky Aki", so we don't forget it in the future (those of us who have a future..) Tweeted! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,677 Posted September 14, 2017 Harumafuji has handed kinboshi #36 and #37 so far in the basho, and with only four sanyaku matches remaining for him, he's got to be really careful now having to face 10 maegashira this basho. Tomorrow is Onosho, day 6 is Chiyotairyu. https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/201709140000257.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gijo 27 Posted September 14, 2017 I'm very sorry for you Kintamayama, but Terunofuji looks very bad.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orandashoho 720 Posted September 14, 2017 Oh man... what a bittersweet day. What is Harumafujji going to do now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaikitsune Makoto 209 Posted September 14, 2017 3 minutes ago, orandashoho said: Oh man... what a bittersweet day. What is Harumafujji going to do now? Comes back tomorrow to annihilate Chiyotairyuu who almost showed another blasting win. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yatagarasu 352 Posted September 14, 2017 Onosho is ready. This is the perfect convergence of circumstance for him: confidence, form, fitness/health, lack of yokozunas and two under par ozeki. I think he might struggle against Goeido, but he's otherwise on a great trajectory. I just felt desperately sad for Terunofuji. He's far from my favourite rikishi, but damn, I hate to see any of them like that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 6,052 Posted September 14, 2017 6 minutes ago, Kaikitsune Makoto said: Comes back tomorrow to annihilate Chiyotairyuu who almost showed another blasting win. I smell a HNH coming... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jyuunomori 226 Posted September 14, 2017 Alrighty, five days have gone by and everyone is injured, everyone except Onosho who doesn't seem to give a single **** about anyone. All of his opponents have been Sanyaku wrestlers so far. 8 wins and Outstanding Performance prize is guaranteed. He looks so dominating out there, amazing. He is just 21 years old as well. I guess he finally stabilized himself when he dropped to Makushita from Juryo last year. Something must have clicked with him. A truly tremendous improvement. It could be Onosho's basho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,688 Posted September 14, 2017 Looks like that is the 14th time that a yokozuna has given up (at least) 3 kinboshi in consecutive bouts. Miyagiyama leads the way with sumo history's only 4-kinboshi streak. Also interesting: Chiyonoyama lost straight to three maegashira in the middle of a 12-3 yusho! But the most noteworthy case might be Futabayama who did so directly following the end of his 69-bout winning streak... 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
