Asashosakari 20,225 Posted January 19, 2017 I can't quite tell if Ishiura was helped by supremely lucky timing or if he just read Chiyotairyu perfectly, but that's how you neutralize a bigger opponent's tachiai without resorting to henka. Excellent sumo. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SumpaX 23 Posted January 19, 2017 On 18.1.2017 at 19:09, Akinomaki said: I rather believe that Ichinojo gets it than Kise I agree, altho my money is on the yokozuna. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,810 Posted January 20, 2017 11 minutes ago, Yubinhaad said: The press are reporting that Goeido will be kyujo tomorrow having injured his right ankle in his Day 12 bout against Endo. He had to lean on the shoulder of a tsukebito as he left the shitaku-beya. Kisenosato gets the fusensho and will retain the sole lead as a result. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,858 Posted January 20, 2017 On 10/01/2017 at 00:16, Akinomaki said: I think the misbelief that there is no yokozuna run this basho needs to be corrected. The Daily headline yesterday "Kisenosato, for whom a yokozuna run is on the line ..." can still be interpreted to mean that he needs a good result to have a run next time, but Sponichi the day before asked in the headline if a overpowering yusho (not just 15-0) is enough, quoting Nishonoseki: "After we watched till the last day", and I read about other oyakata (I think it was no.2. Oguruma) talking in a similar way. Kise is always in Even if he is on an invisible tsuna-run, will the YDC promote him considering he gets a fusen + a loss against a ozeki who was demoted to sekiwake & 2 absent Yokozuna? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted January 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, rhyen said: Even if he is on an invisible tsuna-run, will the YDC promote him considering he gets a fusen + a loss against a ozeki who was demoted to sekiwake & 2 absent Yokozuna? If Kisenosato goes 14-1 and wins the yusho and beats Hakuho than I believe we have the 72nd Yokozuna! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,225 Posted January 20, 2017 There are no less than three 0-6 rikishi in jonokuchi this basho. A surprisingly high number for such a small division, until the realization sets in that it's because they can't face each other as they're all from Shikihide-beya. And to add a punchline to it: Three 0-0-6 absent rikishi are joining the basho for the last bout, so naturally they're all facing the Shikihide guys... If that ends up as the expected wipeout, it'll only be the second time ever with three 0-7's in jonokuchi, and the last time it happened the division was three times as large... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
808morgan 814 Posted January 20, 2017 Oh here we go, Goeido is out, that knee looked like it could have been bad. Kisenosato you need to pull yourself together man! Turn that frown upside down! I want him to win a yusho so MAYBE his sourpuss face will get brighter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amamaniac 2,091 Posted January 20, 2017 Day 13's torikumi look to be a herd-thinning attempt. The yusho race is being crafted into a Day 15 showdown between Kisenosato and Hakuho. Both Ichinojo and Takanoiwa share second place (10-2) with Hakuho. But while both Hakuho and Kisenosato are more or less guaranteed to win on Day 13, both Maegashira contenders will be facing serious competition, opponents to whom, at least on paper (i.e., the banzuke), they should probably lose. 13W Ichinojo is going up against 6E Chiyoshoma, and 10E Takanoiwa will face K1E Takayasu. Those two bouts will be closely watched, and should the two underdogs manage to win, things will be a lot more interesting going into the final two days. That would probably result in Takanoiwa being pitted against Hakuho on Saturday as some have suggested – but, when Kyokutenho M7w won his championship in 2012, the highest-ranked wrestler he had to face was Ozeki, not a Yokozuna. There hasn't been a Top Division kettei-sen for several years. Given the current standings, what are the relative odds of a 2-way, 3-way, and 4-way kettei-sen? I'd love to see at least a 3-way kettei-sen! That would make up for an otherwise lacklustre tournament... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) Day 14: Yw2 Hakuho (10-2) vs M10e Takanoiwa (10-2) and Oe1 Kisenosato (11-1) vs M13w Ichinojo (10-2). Edited January 20, 2017 by Bumpkin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fukurou 534 Posted January 20, 2017 2 minutes ago, Bumpkin said: Day 14: Yw2 Hakuho (10-2) vs M10w Takanoiya (10-2) and Oe1 Kisenosato (11-1) vs M13w Ichinojo (10-2). Pretty typical scheduling, when you don't look at who the opponents are Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Amamaniac 2,091 Posted January 20, 2017 Does anyone have the statistic for the Top Division bout with the greatest ranking gap? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frakazu 22 Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Amamaniac said: Does anyone have the statistic for the Top Division bout with the greatest ranking gap? 1979.09 13 Y2eHD Mienoumi yoritaoshi M14e Asashio 2000.03 13 Y2e Musashimaru yoritaoshi M14e Takatoriki 2000.03 14 Y1w Akebono yorikiri M14e Takatoriki 2007.09 14 Y1w Hakuho tottari M14w Goeido 2000-3 was the Takatoriki Yushô Edited January 20, 2017 by Frakazu Add a phrase 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,150 Posted January 20, 2017 Totally not surprised by those torikumi selections. They needed another opponent for Hakuho with Goeido's withdrawal, and Kisenosato has had Day 14 open on his schedule since Kakuryu withdrew. Might as well bring in those yusho contenders against the top dog yusho contenders. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hamcornheinz 839 Posted January 20, 2017 Hakuho really has it out for Tochiozan, he had that "really? it was that easy" look today, and that cat clapping thing a while back, and just overall screwing with him. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 978 Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) Goeido withdrew? Wow, that's convenient for Kise. Aaaaannnnnd, Kise got Ichinojo on day 14, a (IMHO) much easier opponent than Hak's Takanoiwa. If Kise can't get that yusho with this turn of event, I have no sympathy for Kise, well, not anymore. ( I wonder if Takanoiwa is going to lead with that hard slap on the chin against Hakuho.) Edited January 20, 2017 by robnplunder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,858 Posted January 20, 2017 5 hours ago, Bumpkin said: If Kisenosato goes 14-1 and wins the yusho and beats Hakuho than I believe we have the 72nd Yokozuna! looks like the Japanese media agrees with you and is egging him on. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jyuunomori 238 Posted January 20, 2017 Ura wins over Amakaze by performing a Tasukizori. Tokushouryu loses to Homarefuji. Daiesho wins against Amuru. And Juryo just got even more interesting. And Ura is absolutely being promoted now. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 978 Posted January 20, 2017 1 minute ago, Jyuunomori said: Ura wins over Amakaze by performing a Tasukizori. That was amazing. We may see Ura in Makuuchi for sure in the next basho. Aminishiki ... we may be seeing his last few matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sesom 55 Posted January 20, 2017 Ura did Tasukizori for the second time this basho, the last time it was performed in Makuuchi or Juryo was 1951! http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query_bout.aspx?show_form=0&m=on&j=on&kimarite=47 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Senkoho 552 Posted January 20, 2017 7 minutes ago, sesom said: Ura did Tasukizori for the second time this basho ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,874 Posted January 20, 2017 6 minutes ago, Senkoho said: ? Tasukizori Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kuroyama 715 Posted January 20, 2017 15 minutes ago, sesom said: Ura did Tasukizori for the second time this basho, the last time it was performed in Makuuchi or Juryo was 1951! http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query_bout.aspx?show_form=0&m=on&j=on&kimarite=47 If you just search the database on a kimarite, it provides two records, one for the winner and one for the loser. So both apparent tasukizori for Ura were from the same bout against Amakaze. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sesom 55 Posted January 20, 2017 OMG, you're right. Well, it's early and I had no coffee yet ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,810 Posted January 20, 2017 4 minutes ago, Kuroyama said: If you just search the database on a kimarite, it provides two records, one for the winner and one for the loser. So both apparent tasukizori for Ura were from the same bout against Amakaze. So he did it twice in one match? that's even more impressive. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jyuunomori 238 Posted January 20, 2017 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Rocks said: So he did it twice in one match? that's even more impressive. You people are so silly, I love you guys. Ura only did it once, the other record showing it is from the losers perspective. Tasukizori has only been performed twice in Makuuchi - Juryo as a whole. Edited January 20, 2017 by Jyuunomori Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
