Morning 51 Posted August 21, 2021 2 hours ago, Yokozuna Hattorizakura said: you could say the exact same thing about hakuho, and I guarantee bradman is far more well known than him. I'm pretty sure if you mentioned both names where I am people would go "who?". Well-known-ness depends upon the circles you move in and culture. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryafuji 716 Posted August 21, 2021 8 hours ago, Yangnomazuma said: If one must google the name, can one even consider the person the GOAT of GOATs? I think not. Trying googling 99.94... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sumojoann 874 Posted August 21, 2021 7 hours ago, ryafuji said: Trying googling 99.94... Try Googling 45 Yusho. Same principle. I've never heard of Don Bradman, either. I don't think there's a single person in the US who plays cricket. For that reason alone, I wouldn't expect Americans to have heard of him. After reading up on him, I can certainly see why Australians are so proud of him, though. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sumojoann 874 Posted August 21, 2021 7 hours ago, ryafuji said: Trying googling 99.94... I dunno! When I Googled 99.94, the first thing that came up was a soft rock record album and song called 99/94 by a Thai band called Blackbeans! And I didn't see any ode to Don Bradman on it, either. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 2,464 Posted August 21, 2021 Here's a trivia question. Who's Tom Brady? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sumojoann 874 Posted August 21, 2021 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Yamanashi said: Here's a trivia question. Who's Tom Brady? Of course EVERYBODY WHO LIVES ON PLANET EARTH knows who the great Tom Brady is!! Right???? Edited August 21, 2021 by sumojoann 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,398 Posted August 21, 2021 9 minutes ago, sumojoann said: Of course EVERYBODY WHO LIVES ON PLANET EARTH knows who the great Tom Brady is!! Right???? Nope. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sumojoann 874 Posted August 21, 2021 4 minutes ago, rhyen said: Nope. I was making a point. As Morning said above, well-known-ness depends upon the circles you move in and culture. Well said! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benevolance 2,146 Posted August 21, 2021 Hey. The five days are up. Go home, people. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 2,464 Posted August 21, 2021 See, if this were the Baseballforum, we'd still be talking about live sports action; but from October to March nothing but conspiracy theories and recipes. Instead, our Hot Stove League blather is broken into six bite-size chunks. Eh, potayto - potahto. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 841 Posted August 21, 2021 1 hour ago, Yamanashi said: Here's a trivia question. Who's Tom Brady? I had never heard of him - until @Takanorappa took me to watch him during spring training. That was Tom Brady, right? And it was spring training? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 2,464 Posted August 21, 2021 1 minute ago, Jejima said: I had never heard of him - until @Takanorappa took me to watch him during spring training. That was Tom Brady, right? And it was spring training? Yep. As @Morning and @sumojoann have pointed out, the well-knownhood often depends on culture; and it's almost impossible to devise a way to compare performances or careers across different sports. To me, what's interesting is that some sports/games have GOATS and others don't. My off-the-cuff guess is that the fewer competitive players in a sport, the more likely there will be a GOAT. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kishinoyama 467 Posted August 21, 2021 3 hours ago, Benevolance said: Hey. The five days are up. Go home, people. The natives are restless because they are waiting for the next tournament. Not much else to do right now but 'speculate'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naganoyama 4,998 Posted August 21, 2021 Isn't GOATness more about performance than fame? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yokozuna Hattorizakura 109 Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) Bradman is known anywhere there is cricket, even by non fans. (like me). So the uk and the rest of the commonwealth. thanks to India, that's almost a billion. Many japanese who don't follow sumo don't even know who hakuho is, and there is minimal interest from outside. a few million at best. even in the only country that seems to matter to people online, there are an estimated 200,000 people who play cricket in the us (mostly indian diaspora), and the number of fans is likely more than that. the number of sumo fans is likely only a few thousand. really no contest on who is more well known Edited August 22, 2021 by Yokozuna Hattorizakura 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,827 Posted August 22, 2021 How long will this one drag on? Mods? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 2,464 Posted August 22, 2021 14 minutes ago, Asojima said: How long will this one drag on? Mods? Let's see, today is 8/22 in Japan, banzuke comes out about 8/30 ... uh ... eight more days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Godango 603 Posted August 22, 2021 On 21/08/2021 at 09:46, Yangnomazuma said: If one must google the name, can one even consider the person the GOAT of GOATs? I think not. There would be people in the world who would have to google MJ, LeBron, etc. It's all about them statistics baaaaaaaaby. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 38,270 Posted August 22, 2021 So I guess nobody here has heard of Yossi Ben Ayoun or Mottale Spiegler.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sumojoann 874 Posted August 22, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Kintamayama said: So I guess nobody here has heard of Yossi Ben Ayoun or Mottale Spiegler.. The only way for me to know is to Google them. Have you ever heard of Kinky Friedman and the Texas Jew Boys? Kinky ran for governor of Texas several years ago. I am serious!! He got 12% of the vote, including mine! He is a famous author and the Texas Jew Boys were part of his country band. He was the singer. I tried to look him up on my old computer many years ago but the computer refused to let me have access to his website due to parental controls!! lol https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kinky_Friedman Edited August 22, 2021 by sumojoann Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Athenayama 273 Posted August 22, 2021 32 minutes ago, Kintamayama said: So I guess nobody here has heard of Yossi Ben Ayoun or Mottale Spiegler.. Believe it or not, I knew the first one. But I'm a freak.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 2,464 Posted August 22, 2021 8 hours ago, Kintamayama said: So I guess nobody here has heard of Yossi Ben Ayoun or Mottale Spiegler.. No, but it was worth Googling them to find out that Ben Ayoun is known as "The Diamond from Dimona". The most important Jew in sports was Moe Berg. I could tell you why, but then I'd have to kill you ... 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jabbamaru 154 Posted August 22, 2021 What is cricket? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Athenayama 273 Posted August 22, 2021 2 hours ago, Jabbamaru said: What is cricket? It's a small insect. How on earth don't you know that?!! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigerboy1966 834 Posted August 22, 2021 18 hours ago, Godango said: There would be people in the world who would have to google MJ, LeBron, etc. It's all about them statistics baaaaaaaaby. No-one needs to google MJ. It's Michael Jackson. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites