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1 hour ago, Jakusotsu said:
1 hour ago, Gurowake said:

Nishiki is probably going to be the longest single kanji unless kagayaki ever gets used as a component (which seems unlikely)

...just as unlikely as Sakigake.

As a matter of linguistics, the more kanji there are in the shikona, the more likely that the shorter onyomi readings will be used rather than the longer kunyomi readings. So getting sakigake and kagayaki as components is much less likely than kai or ki, their kunyomi counterparts. 

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FWIW: Kagayaki (輝) has appeared in 99 shikona as Ki, Hikari, Teru and Ryo, but only once as Kagayaki.

Sakagake (魁) has shown up 91 times as Kai, but only twice as Sakagake.  Both of the latter were standalones.  Kai shows up in many notables such as Kaio and Kaisei.

 

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4 hours ago, Asojima said:

Let Kintamayama take a look.  He can probably find one with a major surplus of "u"'s

 

3 hours ago, Gurowake said:

Sounds like we need a Tochiyutakanishiki to beat that.  Nishiki is probably going to be the longest single kanji unless kagayaki ever gets used as a component (which seems unlikely), and yutaka is the next-longest I can think of before the usual 5 romaji kanji.

There is an interesting point to raise. The limit on shikona length in practice seems to be number of morae (the length in terms of length of pronunciation, i.e. number of kana, ignoring ゃゅょ) at 7. So we are really maximizing the number of extra long morae (in romaji, e.g. kyo, tsu, shi) while avoiding the number of short morae (i.e. vowels, ん (n), っ(double consonant)), while ensuring 6 or 7 morae.

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8 minutes ago, Asashosakari said:

Eek, and there's a 29-letter bout involving him that I missed back last time, vs. Kuriharayama.

He wrote a letter about it to his mum back in Yamanashi-ken, Higashiyatsushiro-gun, Yatsushiro-cho.  ;-)

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And, under his given name, we have Ono vs Fuse.  A difference of 22 romaji letters.

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Kyokushūho becomes the first rikishi to string five 6-9 records together. For reference, excluding kyujo, 7-8: 2, 8-7: 15, 9-6: 2, 10-5: 2.

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3 hours ago, Kamitsuumi said:

Kyokushūho becomes the first rikishi to string five 6-9 records together. For reference, excluding kyujo, 7-8: 2, 8-7: 15, 9-6: 2, 10-5: 2.

He has been very pedestrian of late (since 2017 at least), going too often for the hataki-win to see if is ailing body and lackluster sumo style can bring him another paycheck. That's the impression anyway. But you see, even that might make you stand out for some reason. 

On a side note, Kotokuzan posted a 4-11 on his Juryo debut and bounced back with a mirror (11-4) record on his return. It is not a first for sure, but I manually checked and it is not very common when it comes to double-figures. (It is actually a first for this combination). 

It would be more impressive if Oki managed a 15-0, but I wouldn't bank on that.

 

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Hokutofuji has increased his streak of alternating KK/MK to 13 basho (excluding of course the cancelled one). Depending on how high he gets promoted, I think next basho he's likely to break that streak.

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1 hour ago, just_some_guy said:

Hokutofuji has increased his streak of alternating KK/MK to 13 basho (excluding of course the cancelled one). Depending on how high he gets promoted, I think next basho he's likely to break that streak.

Full joi schedule coming up, I think.

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Tournaments with multiple rikishi aged 27+ making their juryo debuts, after WWII. Ages are as of the last day of their juryo debut basho; I've asterisked those that weren't 27 yet when their juryo promotion was announced.

1951.09 - Takiorochi (28, born 1923/06/05) & Otayama (27, born 1924/05/03)
1952.01 - Fukunomori (29, born 1922/12/06) & Azumaumi (27, born 1924/03/14)
1954.03 - Toyohikari (28, born 1925/09/28) & Chikugoyama (28, born 1926/01/08)
1964.01 - Daikanyama (27, born 1936/03/02) & Mikiyama (27, born 1936/07/19)
1987.11 - Hananofuji (29, born 1958/11/21) & Fukuryudake (28, born 1959/05/08)
1989.09 - Kotohakusan (28, born 1961/06/01) & Fukunosato (28, born 1961/06/04)
1990.09 - Oishida (28, born 1961/10/02) & Ryugahama (27a, born 1963/08/16)
1993.07 - Umenosato (29, born 1964/05/03) & Chokairyu (28, born 1965/05/19)
1993.09 - Mutsuhokkai (29, born 1964/06/24) & Kiyonofuji (27, born 1966/02/11)
1997.01 - Akinoshu (28, born 1969/01/17) & Ohinode (27c, born 1970/01/19)
2010.09 - Shironoryu (27b, born 1983/09/07) & Nakanokuni (27c, born 1983/09/17)
2011.07 - Kaonishiki (32, born 1978/09/14) & Takanoyama (28, born 1983/02/21) & Hitenryu (27a, born 1984/06/16)
2022.01 - Shiden (30, born 1991/12/24) & Kotoyusho (27, born 1994/05/14)

a 27th birthday between promotion announcement and banzuke release
b 27th birthday between banzuke release and shonichi
c 27th birthday during basho
 

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If you take Terunofuji's given name as transcribed in the database (GANERDENE Gantulga), you can anagram it to

A Gargantuan Legende

which sounds like a proper mix of English and German for exactly me to find.

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As far as I can tell, nobody has ever had back-to-back 0-8 starts in Makuuchi, something which surprises me. You'd think it would have happened at least once, but the closest appears to be Aran who went 0-7 (1-7) and 0-8 in September and November 2011. 

Edit: Takayasu also came close with a 0-7 (1-7) and 0-8 in May and July of 2012.

Kirinji has the most career nakabi makekoshi with six, four of which came in Natsu bashos, the other two in Aki. 

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query_bout.aspx?show_form=0&group_by=rikishi1&day=8&m=on&j=on&wins1=0&group_expand=on

 

I'm not sure how to query this, but I noticed Kyokutenho once followed a 0-8 start with an 8-0 and I wonder if there are other instances of this or the reverse (i.e. 8-0 > 0-8).

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=41&b=201207

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=41&b=201209

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38 minutes ago, Kamitsuumi said:

Dewanohana 1985

Hokutoriki 2006

Nice. Both 8-0 to 0-8, so Kyokutenho may be the only one to do it the other way around.

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8 hours ago, Asashosakari said:

Takayasu went 0-8 > 8-0 in the same pair of tournaments that Kyokutenho did.

So he did! I missed that. 

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Hakuho lost four bouts in a row on only 3 occasions: July 2002 at Sd23, May 2005 at S1e, and January 2019 at Y1w (the last loss was a fusen).

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1 hour ago, Yamanashi said:

Hakuho lost four bouts in a row on only 3 occasions: July 2002 at Sd23, May 2005 at S1e, and January 2019 at Y1w (the last loss was a fusen).

In a single tournament. He had one cross-basho streak of 4 losses. See his Yokozuna debut and subsequent basho.

Oh, and in 2019 a cross-basho streak of 3 losses plus a fusenpai, and I guess we can throw in July and Sept 2005 which was a streak of L-F-L-L.

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1 hour ago, Eikokurai said:

In a single tournament. He had one cross-basho streak of 4 losses. See his Yokozuna debut and subsequent basho.

Oh, and in 2019 a cross-basho streak of 3 losses plus a fusenpai, and I guess we can throw in July and Sept 2005 which was a streak of L-F-L-L.

Yes, during one basho, thanks.

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Occurences of the same rank and side kept for 3 consecutive bashos while going MK in the first 2, since WWII:

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&columns=3&n_basho=3&shikona=Wakasugiyama,Kotoeko,Tobizaru&form1_rank=M&form1_wins=7&form2_rank=M&form2_wins=7

Tobizaru to be ranked at M8w in Hatsu 2022.

*Edit: Also occured in juryo once: http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&columns=3&n_basho=3&shikona=Fukudayama&form1_year=196111

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Tamashoho vs Atamifuji:

day 14 Kyushu 2021 (last bout of the basho for both)
day 1 Hatsu 2022 (first bout of the basho for both)

Have two opponents (in the lower divisions) ever faced each other in consecutive matches, excluding playoffs?

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Because I had a brain fart, I accidentally discovered that Hakuhou has fought the most bouts from the east side than anyone else.

The gap between 1 and 2 (Chiyonofuji, 66 fewer bouts from the east than Hakuhou) is a little smaller than I expected, as Hakuhou also holds the record for basho ranked Y1e and in that case the gap between 1 and 2 is more than three years' worth.

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Kotonowaka vs Oho

Their respective fathers (Kotonowaka vs Takatoriki) and grandfathers (Kotozakura vs Taiho) faced each other too on the dohyo.

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