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  1. Atenzan

    Banzuke for Haru 2021

    I can't for the life of me think of another scenario that doesn't border on the insane (as if this doesn't already) where a M2w can go 23-7 and not make sekiwake.
  2. Atenzan

    Rikishi Citizenship data?

    A good place to start would be the SumoDB; you have the option to see shusshin and highlight the non-Japanese ones, like this. There's also a lot of good nuggets of information on Naganoyama's site, perhaps the Special Categories tab would be a good place to start (here). But do keep in mind that neither of those things reflects actual citizenship 100% accurately, if that's strictly what you're looking for.
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    Tokitsukaze under house arrest

    Very off-topic, but in Greek there is a lovely expression meaning balagan that literally means "the prostitute's railing". It comes from before the war, when a very popular prostitute's clients would tie gifts to her on her front yard fence, which was comprised of waist-high thin rails. When the locals would wake up in the morning, they would look at the fence and see all sorts of things tied up to the rails, a real clusterf*ck as Tigerboy would say, hence the expression. The woman's name was Sonia; her house was on what is now Alexandras avenue in the neighbourhood of Gyzi. Her legacy, besides the slang, includes Sonia Café at the location of the famous railing, and the nearby Sonia bus stop.
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    Promotion/Demotion and Yusho discussion Hatsu 2021

    Not buying it. All 81 successful ozeki runs since they've done 15 bouts have ended on double digit wins.
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    2021 "Kozumo" Hatsu Basho discussion thread

    That hasn't happened in a while; last pair were Asashouryuu/Touki for Takasago-beya in Kyushu 2005
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    2021 "Kozumo" Hatsu Basho discussion thread

    @Asashosakari What type of dark magic is this now? All 4 S/K kachikoshi...
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    2021 "Kozumo" Hatsu Basho discussion thread

    I haven't been following the basho until now due to health problems I've been dealing with (all fine now), just went to check the yusho arasoi and I have one thing to say. Daieishou got absolutely screwed by the banzuke committee. M2w 10-5 only good enough for M1w? You have drawn his ire. 8-0, 9-1, whatever, this doesn't stop here. Daieishou is not going to be stopped until he reaches a rank where his banzuke luck isn't a factor.
  8. Atenzan

    Invitation to GTB- Hatsu 2021- and RESULTS!!

    Thursday deadline? Craziest thing I've seen all year.
  9. Atenzan

    Minimum Kachi-Koshi forever

    This old post is probably the best place to start.
  10. To put it a bit more dramatically, the last Tokiwayama-beya sekitori kachikoshi was in Edo. (May 1868)
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    Kotoshogiku retires

    OK, so who do you like? Can you tell us a name of an ozeki who you were satisfied by? Anyone who wasn't a yokozuna?
  12. First time there will have been a Tokiwayama-beya since August 1897 according to Japanese Wikipedia. The oyakata apparently didn't coach any sekitori in 21 years there... meaming Takakeishou, Takanoshou and Takagenji will be the first Tokiwayama sekitori in over 150 years, as the previous iteration of the stable shut down in 1870.
  13. Atenzan

    Sumo Reference Updates

    Possibly related: Takakeishou's rikishi information page says that he's got 3 makuuchi yusho, 2 at ozeki.
  14. Atenzan

    YDC convenes after November 2020

    Man, who pissed in their cornflakes? Has the YDC ever been this strict? Putting Hakuhou, who is at least as good as anyone while active and having won a yusho as recently as March, at the same level of caution as Kakuryuu? More dramatically, hinting that consecutive yushos at ozeki isn't necessarily enough to merit a promotion? I can't make head or tail of this, but one thing is clear- sympathy for Konishiki's whingeing is about to run drier than ever.
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    Kotoshogiku retires

    And yet the mechanics of the rank, and top-flight sumo in general, consistently make it so that whoever surpasses these thresholds of being unimpressive turns out to be a yokozuna rather than an ozeki. Since we're getting nowhere with this exchange, could you provide, say, 5 examples of ozeki (not yokozuna) you didn't find unimpressive over the last 25-30 years? And if not, allow me to make a friendly suggestion to lower your standards to more reasonable ones- you may end up enjoying sumo more that way.