Asashosakari 18,954 Posted October 29, 2014 FWIW, when I requested the highest-rank query feature a couple of years ago, Doitsuyama said that "all-time highest" was difficult to do because of the way the database is being queried to produce the output, so "highest to date" was the alternative solution. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,008 Posted November 13, 2014 (edited) I saw this while looking at the new recruits doing well. It might be related to the fusen thing above? Kimarite listed as fusen, black square in the table, but black circle in the hoshitori and not shown as a [-1] in head-to-head record. http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=12124&b=201403 The quoted issue is fixed, but while looking for evidence of matches in which both rikishi failed to show up, I noticed that while there are a lot of older bouts that are showing up similar to this, except that they show a square in the hoshitori and a circle in the table as opposed to the other way around above. Here's a list of them, with the loser on the left as that's the query I ran to make sure I found the matches I was looking for originally (kimarite = fusen, rikishi-1 losses only, and looking for a black symbol in the right column to indicate a fusen loss for both rikishi). Morizauma vs. Ohara 2009.03 Day 9 (Mz) Maedaiko vs. Kyokukoyama 1995.01 Day 2 Araya vs. Senshinryu 1994.09 Day 8 Wakatakahashi vs. Iida 1994.09 Day 4 Kotohigashiyama vs. Osada 1994.09 Day 2 Hoshikakuo vs. Kirinowaka 1994.07 Day 2 Shuho vs. Inago 1994.01 Day 4 Obamayama vs. Kiryu 1994.01 Day 1 Owakamatsu vs. Minatofuji 1992.05 Day 2 Kotonakamura vs. Amaike 1991.11 Day 10 Komahokkai vs. Kototakenoue 1991.11 Day 10 Kinoarashi vs. Fujigatake 1984.01 Day 16 (Absent for the play-off apparently. Is this then completely excludable from the HtH record?) Most of them are on even days, though a couple are not. The Mz and Day 16 ones are likely special cases, as the rest of them are fairly clumped in time. Given that they were before the DB was created, I'm guessing it's input error. -- As the reason behind this concern is mainly head-to-head record notation, I'll mention briefly that I'm not really sure whether Mae-zumo results should be included in such records as equivalent to Ozumo wins. While the [+1] notation is used only for playoffs now, I think it's reasonable that it's the way that Mz results should be shown as well, given that they are not really regulation matches. It just weirded me out to see some rikishi with more of what appeared to be head-to-head regulation matches against a particular other rikishi than total basho in Ozumo. -- For those interested in what I was originally looking for, bouts where both rikishi received a fusen loss, there were two such scheduled matches in the 1990s between Jk guys, as well as one match in Makuuchi that started but didn't really end. See here; I can only assume he wasn't making it up. I looked this up due to the fact that it was reasonably possible that Yoshikaze and Osunaarashi might have been scheduled against each other the day they withdrew and wanted to see if it actually ever happened that way. Edited November 13, 2014 by Gurowake Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Swami 245 Posted November 16, 2014 Database seems to be down at the moment. Swami Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,001 Posted November 16, 2014 Confirmed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,008 Posted November 22, 2014 Database doesn't seem to like the fact that Goeido lost to Kaisei and is not taking into account the result of the match in displaying their overall records. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rufakiyama 16 Posted January 18, 2015 I Wanna Know How You Make A Chart Like The w/l Records Example Here: Hakuho results by basho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rufakiyama 16 Posted January 18, 2015 Pictures Need Updated, Added, And The Yusho Paintings Need Added Too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,008 Posted January 19, 2015 Kotoeko's record (after day 9 Hatsu 2015) currently shows as 0-0. The bouts are there in his basho history, but in all places the current record shows as 0-0. His old records in the basho history of his opponents from prior to Day 9 show his record at the time correctly, while Masunoyama's history shows Kotoeko as 0-0 after their Day 9 match. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,173 Posted January 19, 2015 I Wanna Know How You Make A Chart Like The w/l Records Example Here: Hakuho results by basho Just have a look in the source html, any browser allows you to view this. How to create this is totally up to you, a simple text editor is enough but a lot of work of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,173 Posted January 19, 2015 Kotoeko's record (after day 9 Hatsu 2015) currently shows as 0-0. The bouts are there in his basho history, but in all places the current record shows as 0-0. His old records in the basho history of his opponents from prior to Day 9 show his record at the time correctly, while Masunoyama's history shows Kotoeko as 0-0 after their Day 9 match. Yes, a glitch while correcting the bug from earlier today. Corrected. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rufakiyama 16 Posted January 20, 2015 I Wanna Know How You Make A Chart Like The w/l Records Example Here: Hakuho results by basho Just have a look in the source html, any browser allows you to view this. How to create this is totally up to you, a simple text editor is enough but a lot of work of course. IHow do you get it to look like that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pandaazuma 1,310 Posted January 23, 2015 Just a suggestion, but it would be nice to have the ages of the rikishi on their profiles. Sure the date of birth is there, but I often find myself working out the ages in my head and wishing I didn't have to! ;) Thanks for the best site on the planet! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ack! 444 Posted January 23, 2015 I couldn't help but notice that NHK reported the record between Aminishiki and Kotoshogiku as 18-27 prior to today's bout vs 18-29 according to the DB. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,173 Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) I couldn't help but notice that NHK reported the record between Aminishiki and Kotoshogiku as 18-27 prior to today's bout vs 18-29 according to the DB. Apparently NHK only counts the bouts when both rikishi are in makuuchi. I see no reason not to count the other two bouts. As an aside, interestingly those two met 8 consecutive basho while ranked between juryo and mid maegashira, a really parallel development. Edited January 23, 2015 by Doitsuyama 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,173 Posted January 23, 2015 Just a suggestion, but it would be nice to have the ages of the rikishi on their profiles. Sure the date of birth is there, but I often find myself working out the ages in my head and wishing I didn't have to! ;) Thanks for the best site on the planet! Ok, done for active rikishi (I didn't like that for retired rikishi since in many cases the date of death isn't known and you'd see weird results then). I also added the age of deceased rikishi to the date of death. 15 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pandaazuma 1,310 Posted January 23, 2015 Thanks, Doitsu...you're a gentleman and a scholar! ;) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koukai 4 Posted January 24, 2015 http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=12072&b=201411 Shouldn't it be a sqaure in a brown line (for fusen)? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rufakiyama 16 Posted January 25, 2015 Please Add Yusho Portraits Updates Some Pic And Ad Some For Osunaarashi, Ichinojo, Endo, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tenshinhan 1,600 Posted January 25, 2015 Tochiozan is still at 7-7 and Myogiryu at 8-6. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 5,866 Posted February 4, 2015 I just realized that when you search for a rikishi (e.g. Wakakoyu or Gagamaru) at Google you get a featured box at the right side and the picture there links directly to the SumoDB. Well, at least here in Germany - don't know if it's universal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,008 Posted February 4, 2015 That's only be true for certain rikishi. Harumafuji and Kisenosato's pictures (the first other two I checked) linked elsewhere. It's wherever they sourced the picture from. At least for me, clicking the picture only brings up the picture by itself, not the page it was originally on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rufakiyama 16 Posted February 23, 2015 add pics plz Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,021 Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) program about the life of (weakest ever? 24-27-25) yokozuna Maedayama As Takasago-oyakata he raised Takamiyama, the first foreigner in makuuchi I would also have thought Kanematsu had to be his real first name, but it was Kinmatsu. His first shikona has as first name also the Kinmatsu in kanji, it is not mentioned if also pronounced Kinmatsu or rather Kanematsu, thus likely it is Kinmatsu. The second shikona sounded rather like Satamisaki, close to his home village Yoshiki, which makes him Yoshikiyama. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7MnvzTMjF4 Edited May 5, 2015 by Akinomaki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted May 5, 2015 I just checked the Natsu banzuke with the "highlight foreigners" option as I was curious what color Homarenishiki aka Brody would get, but no color has been assigned yet. My guess would be that it will be red.... and no, this isn't meant to be another micro Sumo game ;-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted May 5, 2015 I just checked the Natsu banzuke with the "highlight foreigners" option as I was curious what color Homarenishiki aka Brody would get, but no color has been assigned yet. My guess would be that it will be red.... and no, this isn't meant to be another micro Sumo game ;-) Kototenta, the other Canadian also doesn't have a color - unless the color is ivory or transparent... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites