Sumo Reference Updates

[Asashosakari 18,786]

FWIW, when I requested the highest-rank query feature a couple of years ago, Doitsuyama said that "all-time highest" was difficult to do because of the way the database is being queried to produce the output, so "highest to date" was the alternative solution.

[Gurowake 3,915]

I saw this while looking at the new recruits doing well. It might be related to the fusen thing above? Kimarite listed as fusen, black square in the table, but black circle in the hoshitori and not shown as a [-1] in head-to-head record. http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=12124&b=201403

The quoted issue is fixed, but while looking for evidence of matches in which both rikishi failed to show up, I noticed that while there are a lot of older bouts that are showing up similar to this, except that they show a square in the hoshitori and a circle in the table as opposed to the other way around above. Here's a list of them, with the loser on the left as that's the query I ran to make sure I found the matches I was looking for originally (kimarite = fusen, rikishi-1 losses only, and looking for a black symbol in the right column to indicate a fusen loss for both rikishi).

Morizauma vs. Ohara 2009.03 Day 9 (Mz)

Maedaiko vs. Kyokukoyama 1995.01 Day 2

Araya vs. Senshinryu 1994.09 Day 8

Wakatakahashi vs. Iida 1994.09 Day 4

Kotohigashiyama vs. Osada 1994.09 Day 2

Hoshikakuo vs. Kirinowaka 1994.07 Day 2

Shuho vs. Inago 1994.01 Day 4

Obamayama vs. Kiryu 1994.01 Day 1

Owakamatsu vs. Minatofuji 1992.05 Day 2

Kotonakamura vs. Amaike 1991.11 Day 10

Komahokkai vs. Kototakenoue 1991.11 Day 10

Kinoarashi vs. Fujigatake 1984.01 Day 16 (Absent for the play-off apparently. Is this then completely excludable from the HtH record?)

Most of them are on even days, though a couple are not. The Mz and Day 16 ones are likely special cases, as the rest of them are fairly clumped in time. Given that they were before the DB was created, I'm guessing it's input error.

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As the reason behind this concern is mainly head-to-head record notation, I'll mention briefly that I'm not really sure whether Mae-zumo results should be included in such records as equivalent to Ozumo wins. While the [+1] notation is used only for playoffs now, I think it's reasonable that it's the way that Mz results should be shown as well, given that they are not really regulation matches. It just weirded me out to see some rikishi with more of what appeared to be head-to-head regulation matches against a particular other rikishi than total basho in Ozumo.

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For those interested in what I was originally looking for, bouts where both rikishi received a fusen loss, there were two such scheduled matches in the 1990s between Jk guys, as well as one match in Makuuchi that started but didn't really end. See here; I can only assume he wasn't making it up. I looked this up due to the fact that it was reasonably possible that Yoshikaze and Osunaarashi might have been scheduled against each other the day they withdrew and wanted to see if it actually ever happened that way.

Edited November 13, 2014 by Gurowake

[Swami 245]

Database seems to be down at the moment.

Swami

[yorikiried by fate 1,989]

Confirmed.

[Gurowake 3,915]

Database doesn't seem to like the fact that Goeido lost to Kaisei and is not taking into account the result of the match in displaying their overall records.

[Rufakiyama 16]

I Wanna Know How You Make A Chart Like The w/l Records Example Here: Hakuho results by basho

[Rufakiyama 16]

Pictures Need Updated, Added, And The Yusho Paintings Need Added Too

[Gurowake 3,915]

Kotoeko's record (after day 9 Hatsu 2015) currently shows as 0-0. The bouts are there in his basho history, but in all places the current record shows as 0-0. His old records in the basho history of his opponents from prior to Day 9 show his record at the time correctly, while Masunoyama's history shows Kotoeko as 0-0 after their Day 9 match.

[Doitsuyama 1,173]

I Wanna Know How You Make A Chart Like The w/l Records Example Here: Hakuho results by basho

Just have a look in the source html, any browser allows you to view this. How to create this is totally up to you, a simple text editor is enough but a lot of work of course.

[Doitsuyama 1,173]

Kotoeko's record (after day 9 Hatsu 2015) currently shows as 0-0. The bouts are there in his basho history, but in all places the current record shows as 0-0. His old records in the basho history of his opponents from prior to Day 9 show his record at the time correctly, while Masunoyama's history shows Kotoeko as 0-0 after their Day 9 match.

Yes, a glitch while correcting the bug from earlier today. Corrected.

[Rufakiyama 16]

I Wanna Know How You Make A Chart Like The w/l Records Example Here: Hakuho results by basho

Just have a look in the source html, any browser allows you to view this. How to create this is totally up to you, a simple text editor is enough but a lot of work of course.

IHow do you get it to look like that

[Pandaazuma 1,310]

Just a suggestion, but it would be nice to have the ages of the rikishi on their profiles. Sure the date of birth is there, but I often find myself working out the ages in my head and wishing I didn't have to! ;)

Thanks for the best site on the planet!

[Ack! 433]

I couldn't help but notice that NHK reported the record between Aminishiki and Kotoshogiku as 18-27 prior to today's bout vs 18-29 according to the DB.

[Doitsuyama 1,173]

I couldn't help but notice that NHK reported the record between Aminishiki and Kotoshogiku as 18-27 prior to today's bout vs 18-29 according to the DB.

Apparently NHK only counts the bouts when both rikishi are in makuuchi. I see no reason not to count the other two bouts.

As an aside, interestingly those two met 8 consecutive basho while ranked between juryo and mid maegashira, a really parallel development.

Edited January 23, 2015 by Doitsuyama

[Doitsuyama 1,173]

Just a suggestion, but it would be nice to have the ages of the rikishi on their profiles. Sure the date of birth is there, but I often find myself working out the ages in my head and wishing I didn't have to! ;)

Thanks for the best site on the planet!

Ok, done for active rikishi (I didn't like that for retired rikishi since in many cases the date of death isn't known and you'd see weird results then). I also added the age of deceased rikishi to the date of death.

[Pandaazuma 1,310]

Thanks, Doitsu...you're a gentleman and a scholar! ;)

[Koukai 4]

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi_basho.aspx?r=12072&b=201411

Shouldn't it be a sqaure in a brown line (for fusen)?

[Rufakiyama 16]

Please Add Yusho Portraits Updates Some Pic And Ad Some For Osunaarashi, Ichinojo, Endo, etc.

[Tenshinhan 1,599]

Tochiozan is still at 7-7 and Myogiryu at 8-6.

[Jakusotsu 5,814]

I just realized that when you search for a rikishi (e.g. Wakakoyu or Gagamaru) at Google you get a featured box at the right side and the picture there links directly to the SumoDB.

Well, at least here in Germany - don't know if it's universal.

[Gurowake 3,915]

That's only be true for certain rikishi. Harumafuji and Kisenosato's pictures (the first other two I checked) linked elsewhere. It's wherever they sourced the picture from. At least for me, clicking the picture only brings up the picture by itself, not the page it was originally on.

[Rufakiyama 16]

add pics plz

[Akinomaki 39,782]

program about the life of (weakest ever? 24-27-25) yokozuna Maedayama

As Takasago-oyakata he raised Takamiyama, the first foreigner in makuuchi

I would also have thought Kanematsu had to be his real first name, but it was Kinmatsu.

His first shikona has as first name also the Kinmatsu in kanji, it is not mentioned if also pronounced Kinmatsu or rather Kanematsu, thus likely it is Kinmatsu. The second shikona sounded rather like Satamisaki, close to his home village Yoshiki, which makes him Yoshikiyama.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7MnvzTMjF4

Edited May 5, 2015 by Akinomaki

[kuroimori 1,634]

I just checked the Natsu banzuke with the "highlight foreigners" option as I was curious what color Homarenishiki aka Brody would get, but no color has been assigned yet. My guess would be that it will be red.... and no, this isn't meant to be another micro Sumo game ;-)

[kuroimori 1,634]

I just checked the Natsu banzuke with the "highlight foreigners" option as I was curious what color Homarenishiki aka Brody would get, but no color has been assigned yet. My guess would be that it will be red.... and no, this isn't meant to be another micro Sumo game ;-)

Kototenta, the other Canadian also doesn't have a color - unless the color is ivory or transparent...