Trivia bits

[Yamanashi 3,776]

3 hours ago, Gurowake said:

There has been one recorded instance of a rikishi winning the Makuuchi Yusho in the basho after they won the Juryo Yusho.  Unless you already knew this, I don't think you could possibly guess who did it.

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&form1_y=on&form1_j=on&form2_y=on&form2_m=on

Thanks, that was a juicy one!

[Reonito 1,384]

4 minutes ago, Yamanashi said:

Thanks, that was a juicy one!

Same answer to "Makuuchi yusho on debut"

[Gurowake 4,016]

8 minutes ago, Reonito said:

Same answer to "Makuuchi yusho on debut"

Well, there's no one 5-0 right now that's debuting, but the Juryo Yusho winner last basho is 5-0.  I won't totally discount the debuting guys with positive records, but it'll be a bit harder for them.

[Reonito 1,384]

8 minutes ago, Gurowake said:

Well, there's no one 5-0 right now that's debuting, but the Juryo Yusho winner last basho is 5-0.  I won't totally discount the debuting guys with positive records, but it'll be a bit harder for them.

Hakuoho and Atamifuji took recent runs at both marks; I am not taking Ichiyamamoto seriously (yet). He's started 5-0 from a similar rank before.

[shimodahito 304]

that may have been one of the longest tachiais -- gonoyama & hoshoryu... clock it.... and it might set the standard for a future trivia.

[Asashosakari 18,967]

Sekitori defeating undefeated opponents on back-to-back days, tournament day 6 or later, modern era:

vs sanyaku:

1928.10.08-09 O1w Hitachiiwa 4-3 vs Y1e Miyagiyama / O2e Noshirogata
1932.10.06-07 Se Okitsuumi 4-1 vs O1e Tamanishiki / O2e Shimizugawa
1933.01.06-07 M9eBS Asashio 5-0 vs Ye Tamanishiki / Ow Musashiyama
1936.05.08-09 Sw Futabayama 7-0 vs Y1e Tamanishiki / Y2e Minanogawa
1941.01.12-13 O2e Maedayama 9-2 vs O1w Haguroyama / Yw Futabayama
1945.11.08-09 Y1w Haguroyama 7-0 vs O1e Azumafuji / Y2e Terukuni
1970.07.08-09 Y1e Kitanofuji 6-1 vs Sw Daikirin / Se Maenoyama
1982.11.06-07 M1w Dewanohana 3-2 vs Se Wakashimazu / Ow Kotokaze
1984.09.06-07 Sw Onokuni 4-1 vs O1e Wakashimazu / O2w Kotokaze
1988.01.07-08 Se Sakahoko 2-4 vs Y1e Chiyonofuji / O2e Konishiki
1990.03.06-07 Se Kirishima 4-1 vs Y1e Chiyonofuji / O1e Konishiki
1990.05.07-08 M1e Akinoshima 2-4 vs Y1w Chiyonofuji / O1e Konishiki
1994.03.06-07 M1w Kaio 4-1 vs O2w Musashimaru / Se Kotonishiki
1997.03.08-09 M1e Kaio 6-1 vs O2e Takanonami / Yw Akebono
2013.11.13-14 O1e Kisenosato 10-2 vs Yw Harumafuji / Ye Hakuho
2015.07.09-10 Se Tochiozan 7-1 vs Y2e Kakuryu / Y1e Hakuho

vs maegashira:

1931.05.06-07 M11e Fujinosato 2-3 vs M4e Kagamiiwa / M3w Shimizugawa
1941.05.06-07 M2w Matsuragata 4-1 vs M11e Sagamigawa / M16e Toyoshima
1961.07.06-07 M6w Aonosato 4-1 vs M8w Wakanoumi / M10w Myobudani
2008.03.06-07 M4e Wakanoho 2-3 vs M5w Kokkai / M7w Hokutoriki
2023.11.06-07 M11e Sadanoumi 2-3 vs M8w Atamifuji / M14w Ichiyamamoto

vs juryo:

1938.01.06-07 J11e Saganohana 4-1 vs J10w Ichiwatari / J12eOB Hishuzan
1949.05.06-07 J5e Nachinoyama 3-2 vs J1e Kosakagawa / J16w Kiryugawa
1958.09.06-07 J1e Kitabayama 5-0 vs J5w Dairyu / J9w Fukudayama
1985.05.06-07 J1e Tochitsukasa 4-1 vs J4w Misugiiso / J2e Maenoshin
1988.11.06-07 J12e Kyokugozan 4-1 vs J13w Masurao / J13e Hoshiiwato
2008.07.06-07 J11e Shirononami 1-4 vs J14w Tosayutaka / J9w Kyokunankai
2019.11.06-07 J5w Kiribayama 3-2 vs J7w Kotonowaka / J3e Ikioi

It has happened over 30 times on Days 5-6 and over 100 times on Days 4-5, so it rapidly gets less interesting before the days included above. (And no, the maegashira and juryo data is not truncated - outside of sanyaku opponents it has never occurred later than Days 6-7.)

Edited November 18, 2023 by Asashosakari

[Asashosakari 18,967]

Some more stats about rikishi facing undefeated opponents (same restriction: only Day 6 and later)...

Seven rikishi had to face four such opponents:

1983.05:
Koboyama - Days 6-9 straight, went 0-4

1983.09:
Kirinji - Days 7-9 and 11, went 0-4
Oyutaka - Days 6-7, 9 and 12, went 1-3

1989.03:
Akinoshima - Days 6-9 straight, went 1-3
Ozutsu - Days 7-9 and 11, went 0-4
Sakahoko - Days 6 and 8-10, went 0-4

2009.07:
Kisenosato - Days 6-8 and 10, went 2-2

Getting three such opponents isn't especially rare and has occurred 69 times (not counting the four-peats already listed above), among them 18 cases on consecutive days. Haru 2004 saw Kaio, himself entering these matches at 11-0, face three other unbeaten opponents on Days 12-14 (he went 1-2). All other cases took place much earlier than that: 1x Days 9-11, 3x Days 8-10, 3x Days 7-9, 10x Days 6-8. Maedayama in 1941.01 is the only rikishi who won all three of his matches (on Days 6 and 12-13, so he also appeared on the back-to-back list in the previous post).

Speaking of successful back-to-back wins, to put them into a relative rarity context of all attempts:

Days 14-15: happened exactly once when Terukuni in 1943.05 first beat fellow yokozuna Haguroyama and then lost to Futabayama [0x 2-0, 1x 1-1]
Days 13-14: 14 times, most recently in 2021.07 for Shodai and Takayasu against Terunofuji and Hakuho [1x 2-0, 4x 1-1, 9x 0-2]
Days 12-13: 7 times, most recently in 2013.05 for Kakuryu against Hakuho and Kisenosato [1x 2-0, 2x 1-1, 4x 0-2]
Days 11-12: 18 cases, most recently also in 2021.07 for Mitakeumi [0x 2-0, 5x 1-1, 13x 0-2]
Days 10-11: 18 cases, most recently in 2018.03 for Ichinojo against Kaisei and Kakuryu [0x 2-0, 6x 1-1, 12x 0-2]
Days 9-10: 37 cases, most recently in 2021.11 for Hoshoryu against Takakeisho and Terunofuji [1x 2-0, 13x 1-1, 23x 0-2]
Days 8-9: 48 cases, most recently in 2020.07 for Aoiyama against Asanoyama and Hakuho [5x 2-0, 13x 1-1, 30x 0-2]
Days 7-8: 80 cases, most recently yet again in 2021.07 for Kotoeko and Tobizaru [2x 2-0, 29x 1-1, 49x 0-2]
Days 6-7: 161 cases, most recently Sadanoumi successfully yesterday and today [18x 2-0, 48x 1-1, 95x 0-2]
 

Split by type of opponents, Sanyaku/Maegashira/Juryo (successful cases in brackets, if any):

Days 14-15: 1 Sy
Days 13-14: 14(1) Sy
Days 12-13: 6(1) Sy, 1 M+Sy [different types of opponents both days]
Days 11-12: 17 Sy, 1 M+Sy
Days 10-11: 17 Sy, 1 M+Sy
Days 9-10: 34(1) Sy, 2 Sy+M, 1 M+Sy
Days 8-9: 46(5) Sy, 2 Sy+M
Days 7-8: 72(2) Sy, 1 Sy+M, 3 M+Sy, 4 J
Days 6-7: 121(6) Sy, 4 Sy+M, 4 M+Sy, 9(5) M, 23(7) J

[Doitsuyama 1,173]

Ms1w Takerufuji lost on day 6 to Hakuyozan which was the first time he lost to a rikishi without university background. Before that his career record was 39-5 with all losses coming to university rikishi. I'm not sure how to put that into some kind of record, like most bouts to start the career without losing to a non-university rikishi, but it seemed remarkable to me.

[Faustonowaka 114]

Kitaharima (with 13 wins) probably had the longest ever winning streak of any rikishi aged 37 or older

[Yamanashi 3,776]

8 hours ago, Faustonowaka said:

Kitaharima (with 13 wins) probably had the longest ever winning streak of any rikishi aged 37 or older

Out of reactions, so "Like".  Tamawashi had 11 in a row including his first Yusho, but that was when he was a mere stripling of 33.

[Asashosakari 18,967]

Haguroyama had 22 between 36y 10m 12d and 37y 5m 28d.  (September 1951 to May 1952.)

[Katooshu 3,179]

11 hours ago, Doitsuyama said:

Ms1w Takerufuji lost on day 6 to Hakuyozan which was the first time he lost to a rikishi without university background. Before that his career record was 39-5 with all losses coming to university rikishi. I'm not sure how to put that into some kind of record, like most bouts to start the career without losing to a non-university rikishi, but it seemed remarkable to me.

Incidentally, Onosato's first 5 losses also came against collegiate rikishi, and he didn't take a loss against a non-college grad until his 12th juryo match. Though he of course had far fewer bouts than Takerufuji at that point.

All his losses since then have all been to rikishi without a college background. 

Edited November 25, 2023 by Katooshu

[Asashosakari 18,967]

The lowest-ranked 6-1 record in makushita in the just-concluded tournament was posted by Ms36w Chiyonoo. All of Ms37-Ms60 being devoid of a 6-1 score had never happened before.

(The previous record holder was Aki 1970 with the last 6-1 at Ms37w. Not even a 7-0 score down there in that one, unlike this time.)

[Tsuchinoninjin 1,261]

Kirishima winning the yusho concludes a second straight year of nobody winning back to back yusho. 5 out of the last 6 years have gone without b2b yushos, but Terunofujis 2021 effort spoils this from being a really juicy tidbit.

[Bunbukuchagama 701]

23 minutes ago, Tsuchinoninjin said:

Kirishima winning the yusho concludes a second straight year of nobody winning back to back yusho. 5 out of the last 6 years have gone without b2b yushos, but Terunofujis 2021 effort spoils this from being a really juicy tidbit.

We got 9 different yusho winners in 2 years. Is it a record of some kind?

[yorikiried by fate 2,001]

58 minutes ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

We got 9 different yusho winners in 2 years. Is it a record of some kind?

It surely looks like that. The previous highscore I could find was 8: XI-90 to XI-92.

[Yubinhaad 11,594]

Torikumi below Juryo is incomplete before the Heisei era, but in the available data I can find only three bouts between rikishi who had yumitori-shiki experience. Stay tuned in 2063 for the next instalment.

 

1973.07	9	Ms4e	Okabe	4-1 (5-2)		tsukiotoshi		J13e	Tochizakura	3-6 (6-9)
1993.05	5	Sd9e	Hokutoasahi	1-2 (3-4)		uwatenage		Sd6e	Hidenohana	2-1 (5-2)
2023.11	15	Sd8w	Yuki	4-3		oshidashi		Sd4e	Shohoryu	5-2

 

The first and third bouts were between the incumbent performer (Okabe and Yuki) and a predecessor. In the second bout, both rikishi were ex-performers on the day, although Hokutoasahi actually twirled the bow twice a few days later, perhaps a retirement gift in what was his final basho.

[Chiyotasuke 274]

Kirishima has achieved something that wasn't seen in a while; winning the yusho with a shikona of a different makuuchi yusho winner in the past. Tochiazuma was the latest occurrence of this. This query here shows all the past occurrences, though it leaves out one other Wakamisugi who later became Wakanohana II (the query doesn't allow repeating of rikishi):

https://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&shikona=Asashio,Kirishima,Nishinoumi,Takamiyama,Takanohana,Tamanoumi,Tochiazuma,Wakamisugi,Wakanohana&group_by=rikishi&form1_y=on&form1_m=on&gsort_by=shikona

[Yamanashi 3,776]

1 hour ago, Chiyotasuke said:

Kirishima has achieved something that wasn't seen in a while; winning the yusho with a shikona of a different makuuchi yusho winner in the past.

Though, to be fair, they give them these shikona with that in mind.  It's not an accident, after all.

[Octofuji 349]

It may have been mentioned elsewhere on the forum, but we end the year with all the upper san'yaku having taken at least one yusho.

I don't know whether it's even possible to do a query of this kind, but checking manually it's not happened this century.

[Yamanashi 3,776]

7 hours ago, Octofuji said:

It may have been mentioned elsewhere on the forum, but we end the year with all the upper san'yaku having taken at least one yusho.

I don't know whether it's even possible to do a query of this kind, but checking manually it's not happened this century.

If there are more than six men in the Y-O slots at any time during the year, it's statistically impossible to do this.  Having a lack of Y/O makes this at least possible.

[Tsuchinoninjin 1,261]

8 hours ago, Octofuji said:

It may have been mentioned elsewhere on the forum, but we end the year with all the upper san'yaku having taken at least one yusho.

I don't know whether it's even possible to do a query of this kind, but checking manually it's not happened this century.

Somewhat bizarrely this had a good chance of happening in Kyushu 92 but the remaining non winner that failed was… Kirishima

[Gurowake 4,016]

8 hours ago, Octofuji said:

It may have been mentioned elsewhere on the forum, but we end the year with all the upper san'yaku having taken at least one yusho.

I don't know whether it's even possible to do a query of this kind, but checking manually it's not happened this century.

Considering that most eras of Sumo are dominated by one or two strong Yokozuna, while having around 6 (or possibly more, where it's impossible) upper sanyaku, I'd find it highly unlikely to have happened all that frequently, though it may have happened randomly at some point in the past, most likely when there were very few of them.

Edited November 28, 2023 by Gurowake

[Asashosakari 18,967]

It was easier to generalize this, so I checked it for any 6-basho period.  I tested for two different things: a) last six yusho winners up to and including the basho of the banzuke (e.g. winners from 2023.01-2023.11 include all Y/O on the 2023.11 banzuke), and b) last six previous yusho winners (e.g. winners from 2023.01-2023.11 include all Y/O on the 2024.01 banzuke). These can occur separately if a non-winning Y/O retires after the basho, leaving the ranks populated only by winners, or if a non-winning sekiwake gets promoted to ozeki, breaking up an all-winners lineup. (Edit: And it's also possible for them to occur together but with different sets of rikishi, in case a winning Y/O retires or a winning sekiwake gets promoted.)

#R = number of Y/O rikishi on the matching banzuke (one number = applies to "up to" and "prev to" as cases match; two numbers = first applies to "up to", second to "prev to")
#Y = number of yusho these Y/O rikishi combined for (ditto)

    6 Yusho      #R  #Y  Up to    Prev to
1931.05-1932.10   3   4           1933.01
1969.01-1969.11   5   6  1969.11  1970.01
1969.03-1970.01   5   6  1970.01  1970.03
1974.05-1975.03   4   6  1975.03  1975.05
1974.07-1975.05   4   6  1975.05  1975.07
1974.09-1975.07   4   5  1975.07  1975.09
1975.05-1976.03   4   5  1976.03
1980.05-1981.03   3   5           1981.05
1980.07-1981.05   3   5  1981.05  1981.07
1980.09-1981.07   3   5  1981.07  1981.09
1991.01-1991.11   4   4  1991.11  1992.01
1992.01-1992.11   2   3           1993.01
1992.03-1993.01  2/3 4/5 1993.01  1993.03
1993.01-1993.11   3   6           1994.01
1993.03-1994.01   3   6  1994.01
1997.05-1998.03   5   6  1998.03  1998.05
2020.09-2021.07   4   5           2021.09
2022.03-2023.01   2   2  2023.01  2023.03
2022.05-2023.03   2   2  2023.03  2023.05
2022.07-2023.05  2/3 2/3 2023.05  2023.07
2022.09-2023.07  3/4 3/4 2023.07  2023.09
2022.11-2023.09   4   5  2023.09  2023.11
2023.01-2023.11   4   6  2023.11  2024.01

It has never been done by a group of 6 Y/O, but a group of 5 has done it in 5 tournaments (1969.03-1969.11).

Edited November 28, 2023 by Asashosakari

[Reonito 1,384]

So it looks like maybe the rare achievement being matched here is all the Y/O on the last banzuke of the calendar year taking all 6 yusho, with each taking at least one (1969, 1993, 2023).