Trivia bits

[Asashosakari 18,786]

I don't think we've had this list in the thread before...longest streaks of the makuuchi yusho being won without back to back victories.

Note: The linked query output includes the back to back winners at the beginning and end of each streak to show that those are indeed the endpoints, so the "results found" counts will be higher by two (except for the currently ongoing streak, of course, which has no ending yet, so it's just higher by one there). The starting and ending back-to-backers are also included below for reference.

21 1974.09 - 1978.01 (Wajima / Kitanoumi)

17 2018.05 - 2021.03 (Kakuryu / Terunofuji)

16 2021.11 - ongoing (Terunofuji / -)

15 1999.11 - 2002.03 (Musashimaru / Musashimaru)
15 1990.07 - 1992.11 (Asahifuji / Akebono)

13 1956.01 - 1958.07 (Kagamisato / Wakanohana)
13 1951.01 - 1954.05 (Terukuni / Tochinishiki)

12 1958.09 - 1960.07 (Wakanohana / Wakanohana)
12 1931.03 - 1935.01 (Tamanishiki / Tamanishiki)

9 2008.11 - 2010.03 (Hakuho / Hakuho)
9 1987.01 - 1988.05 (Chiyonofuji / Chiyonofuji)
9 1964.11 - 1966.30 (Taiho / Taiho)

8 1983.09 - 1984.11 (Takanosato / Chiyonofuji)
8 1927.10 - 1929.05 (Tsunenohana / Tsunenohana)
8 1914.01 - 1917.05 (Tachiyama / Tochigiyama)

Edited May 29 by Asashosakari

[Jakusotsu 5,815]

Biggest surprise for me is the Musa-Musa bracket.

[Washuyama 635]

The top one is when I started watching sumo.  Some of those yusho bring back vivid memories.

[Gurowake 3,923]

On 29/05/2024 at 11:55, Asashosakari said:

I don't think we've had this list in the thread before...longest streaks of the makuuchi yusho being won without back to back victories.

Note: The linked query output includes the back to back winners at the beginning and end of each streak to show that those are indeed the endpoints, so the "results found" counts will be higher by two (except for the currently ongoing streak, of course, which has no ending yet, so it's just higher by one there).

Now the way you're counting this is consistent, but shouldn't you not be counting either of the first person's Yusho in the streak of non-consecutive Yusho?  If the winners go A-A-B-C-C, you're saying there's three basho without repeat winners, but I see only the middle and fourth basho as not having repeat winners for a streak of 2.  The fifth has a repeat winner, the second has a repeat winner, and the first is separated from the non-repeat ones so isn't part of the streak.

[Yubinhaad 11,546]

Makuuchi hatsu-yusho won in two (or more) consecutive basho. Eight occurrences in the six-basho-per-year era.

 

1917.01 - 1917.05	Onishiki, Tochigiyama
1921.05 - 1922.01	Tsunenohana, Tsurugahama
1926.05 - 1927.01	Orochiyama, Miyagiyama
1928.01 - 1928.03	Hitachiiwa, Noshirogata
1929.01 - 1929.03	Tamanishiki, Toyokuni
1931.05 - 1932.03 (4)	Musashiyama, Ayazakura, Shimizugawa, Okitsuumi
1944.11 - 1945.06	Maedayama, Bishuyama
1948.05 - 1948.10	Azumafuji, Masuiyama
1952.09 - 1953.01	Tochinishiki, Kagamisato
1954.01 - 1954.03	Yoshibayama, Mitsuneyama
1956.03 - 1956.05	Asashio, Wakanohana
---
1960.11 - 1961.01	Taiho, Kashiwado
1968.03 - 1968.07 (3)	Wakanami, Tamanoshima, Kotozakura
1972.01 - 1972.07 (4)	Tochiazuma, Hasegawa, Wajima, Takamiyama
1991.07 - 1991.09	Kotofuji, Kotonishiki
1992.05 - 1992.07	Akebono, Mitoizumi
2000.01 - 2000.05 (3)	Musoyama, Takatoriki, Kaio
2018.11 - 2019.01	Takakeisho, Tamawashi
2024.03 - 2024.05	Takerufuji, Onosato

Kotozakura II to emulate his grandfather with the third in a row this time?

[Asashosakari 18,786]

Small asterisk on Miyagiyama because he was a yusho winner in Osaka already. 

Should the very first yusho winners (Takamiyama / Hitachiyama / Tachiyama) be considered as a case, too? The DB lists Hitachiyama's yusho as the 8th based on 7 unofficial ones before the newspapers began to award prizes to the top performer, but now that I'm looking at it that's pretty arbitrary. Tachiyama's victory in 1910 gets listed as his first, but he had two unofficial top performances before 1909, too...

[Gurowake 3,923]

23 hours ago, Asashosakari said:

Small asterisk on Miyagiyama because he was a yusho winner in Osaka already. 

Should the very first yusho winners (Takamiyama / Hitachiyama / Tachiyama) be considered as a case, too? The DB lists Hitachiyama's yusho as the 8th based on 7 unofficial ones before the newspapers began to award prizes to the top performer, but now that I'm looking at it that's pretty arbitrary. Tachiyama's victory in 1910 gets listed as his first, but he had two unofficial top performances before 1909, too...

I was going to comment on how to deal with this myself, but I didn't come up with anything useful to add at the time, and didn't think anyone would care.  I personally would only count ones that were official in some way, so if the first two awarded by the newspapers had different winners, they would count.  If you count unofficial ones as counting against them, you'd have to look back forever in trying to determine who the unofficial winners were to see if there were more to add to the list.  

And as to Miyagiyama, we're not counting lower division Yusho here, so I don't think an Osaka Yusho means anything for this.

 

Edited June 5 by Gurowake

[Asashosakari 18,786]

I thought I had posted this a couple of months ago, but apparently not and I just came across my notes again, so here we go. Sekitori ranked in adjacent spots on one banzuke and the other way around in the same spots on the next one. Not including cases where both rikishi were in sanyaku, because that's just boring.
 

1958.01->.03
M14w Oikawa 7-8 -> M15e
M15e Hirosegawa 8-7 -> M14w

1959.09->.11
M19e Kiyonomori 7-8 -> J1e
J1e Wakanokuni 8-7 -> M17e
(M19e / M17e were both the last spot in makuuchi)

1960.07->.09
J2e Hoshikabuto 8-7 -> J2w
J2w Tsunenishiki 9-6 -> J2e

1965.11->1966.01
M3e Tochioyama 7-8 -> M3w
M3w Fujinishiki 8-7 -> M3e

1970.09->.11
J2e Masuiyama 8-7 -> J2w
J2w Tochifuji 9-6 -> J2e

1998.09->.11
M1e Kaio 7-8 -> M1w
M1w Tochiazuma 8-7 -> M1e

2004.07->.09
M1w Iwakiyama 7-8 -> M2e
M2e Kokkai 8-7 -> M1w

2006.01->.03
K1w Tamanoshima 7-8 -> M1e
M1e Miyabiyama 8-7 -> K1w

2020.01->.03
K1w Daieisho 7-8 -> M1e
M1e Endo 9-6 -> K1w

2022.03->.05
J7w Tokushoryu 7-8 -> J8e
J8e Yago 8-7 -> J7w

The inspiration for researching that was this part of my Natsu GTB entry, which didn't quite come to pass:

Sadanoumi (M11w 8-7)     M11  Ichiyamamoto (M11e 7-8)

Ichiyamamoto got dropped to M12e instead; an opportunity missed.

[Gurowake 3,923]

 

On 23/06/2024 at 00:23, Asashosakari said:

Sekitori ranked in adjacent spots on one banzuke and the other way around in the same spots on the next one.

The ones where they both got KKs are the most intriguing from the modern perspective.

[Jejima 1,314]

18 hours ago, Gurowake said:

 

The ones where they both got KKs are the most intriguing from the modern perspective.

Something about the J2 ranks?  (The two anomalies both happened at those ranks).

[Wakawakawaka 136]

Bushozan now has 10 Juryo KK in a row, I'm not sure how to look it up, but that must put him pretty high on that list I'd assume ('greatest yo-yo rikishi of all time?' :P)

[Asashosakari 18,786]

1 hour ago, Wakawakawaka said:

Bushozan now has 10 Juryo KK in a row, I'm not sure how to look it up, but that must put him pretty high on that list I'd assume ('greatest yo-yo rikishi of all time?' :P)

FWIW, I did a more restrictive version of that a while ago:

On 22/02/2022 at 16:44, Asashosakari said:

Incidentally, it appears the starting record for kachikoshi in juryo (15-bout era) is jointly held by Wakanosato and 1960s Wakanokuni, who both had winning records in their first 10 juryo appearances, of course interrupted by a lot of time spent in makuuchi. I'm solely mentioning that because currently active Tamawashi and Yutakayama are both at 9-0 and may well eventually join or exceed that record mark.

The comment preceding that one was focused on something else but may be helpful in a roundabout way:

On 22/02/2022 at 15:47, Asashosakari said:

Double-digit positive splits:

Oshio 35-18
Daio 32-15
Tochitsukasa 20-6
Asanowaka 18-4
Asahisato 29-16
Kotonofuji 27-14
Futatsuryu 28-16
Kyokugozan 24-12
Hidanohana 22-11
Kotoyuki 17-6
Kasugao 15-5
Ishiura 13-3

Checking the five guys with single-digit amounts of makekoshi reveals the following KK streaks: Tochitsukasa had 12, and Asanowaka had 15. I don't know if there are any further streaks of 10+ lurking out there besides those, Bushozan's and the two mentioned debut streaks.

[Gurowake 3,923]

The least number of Makuuchi basho by someone with a sansho but no sanyaku appearances* that retired before 2020 is 14, http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=4040, and under 20 is extremely rare.  Since 2020, there was Masunoyama who retired with only 13 Makuuchi basho while winning a sansho at some point.  There are a number of rikishi who are likely to break that record, if you can call it that.  Enho has only 9 Makuuchi basho, Tomokaze has only 8, and Kyokutaisei has a mere 4, and except for maybe Tomokaze, they're unlikely to get more.

*There is one former sanyaku with 14 appearances in Makuuchi - Wakakoyu, but the sanyaku promotion kinda acts like additional sansho, at least in terms of money and prestige.  There are others under 20 as well, and it seems more common than with those never making sanyaku.  Then if you go back even further, there's this guy http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=4023 who had 2 sansho but only 7 Makuuchi ranking appearances, one of which was at Komusubi, and retired immediately after the 7th basho ranked in Makuuch, which he didn't participate in.  He has a Wikipedia article, but there's no mention of why he retired so quickly, only that he left the sumo world.  He's also apparently still alive, so an untimely death wasn't the reason.  (He could have passed away by now and no one cared, but if he had done so as a rikishi, that would presumably have been noted in the database, which is apparently the sole source for the Wikipedia article.)

Edited July 13 by Gurowake

[Koorifuu 886]

Daiseizan will be the first sekitori out of the talented Hatsu '22 crop, in which 6 out of 7 newbie maezumo participants sprinted to makushita within 18 months of their banzuke debut but have otherwise remained stuck in mid/upper makushita limbo since. (A few of them are in their career high rank right now, though.)

Daiseizan, ironically, was the last out of these 6 to get there, due to an injury.

Edited July 24 by Koorifuu

[Katooshu 3,135]

Indeed. Kototebakari got out to a big lead on his peers but a few of the others have caught up and now Daiseizan makes the leap first. I expect we'll see at least a couple more from that group as sekitori in the next year or two.

Edited July 24 by Katooshu

[Gurowake 3,923]

This is the first time since Haru 2019 that none of the top 6 maegashira had KKs.  It happened much more frequently during the peak Hakuho + gang era.

http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&group_by=basho&g_op==&having=0&form1_rank=m1-m3&form1_wins=kk&form1_year=>2010

[Oskanohana 227]

You made me wonder what's the record of the lowest highest maegashira getting KK (yes, I wrote that by myself).

Banzuke   Query (I used 1945 onwards to not get any missing data)

Look at this sorry bunch. Not even a kosho in there. Kirishima already letting people down 9 years before being born.

[Oskanohana 227]

Bashos with no yokozuna or ozeki getting kachi-koshi. I don't know if this fact was ever acknowledged (surely it had to, I don't quite remember it). A quick manual scan of this thread gave me nothing, and I don't know which terms to use to look it up broadly with any efectiveness. Holy crap, those antique times were dark. No one dare to say that was a strong era.

Query

[Katooshu 3,135]

With his unconditional Shukun-Sho announced for Nagoya, Onosato becomes the first rikishi to win sansho in each of his first 4 makuuchi basho, breaking the tie with Chiyotenzan, who did it in his first 3 as well.

Edited July 28 by Katooshu

[Koorifuu 886]

On 24/07/2024 at 15:35, Katooshu said:

Indeed. Kototebakari got out to a big lead on his peers but a few of the others have caught up and now Daiseizan makes the leap first. I expect we'll see at least a couple more from that group as sekitori in the next year or two.

Kototebakari reestablished his lead on the others (except Daiseizan) with his 4 wins from ms8, which is likely to put him on the promotion zone.

Wakanosho and Kotokenryu would've joined him in that promised land, had they won their last bout. Both lost, however, and will have to settle with the zensho-only promotion zone.
Hananoumi isn't far and would've been on that zone, had he won his last bout - he didn't, so he'll probably be sitting in the ms16~20 area.

Toseiryu is now lagging behind the others by struggling around ms30 - but then again he's always had the lowest ceiling out of the six.

[Asashosakari 18,786]

Terunofuji is now the sole record holder in the number of makuuchi yusho won with only 12 wins: Query

[Reonito 1,335]

Assuming I didn't miss any, this is the 5th basho in the 6-basho era with all 5 S/K having winning records (joining 1969.11. 1970.01, 2000.03, and 2021.03). There are other basho with 5 kachi-koshi S/K, and one with 6, but they all had other S/K who went make-koshi.

Edited July 29 by Reonito

[Faustonowaka 112]

On 28/07/2024 at 03:51, Oskanohana said:

You made me wonder what's the record of the lowest highest maegashira getting KK (yes, I wrote that by myself).

Banzuke   Query (I used 1945 onwards to not get any missing data)

Look at this sorry bunch. Not even a kosho in there. Kirishima already letting people down 9 years before being born.

Komusubi west -> maegashira 7 west: everyone make-koshi

Maegashira 8 east -> maegashira 12 west: everyone kashi-koshi

 

[Asashosakari 18,786]

A list of all maegashira (39 in total) who managed to lose 8+ matches to other maegashira, but also win at least 2 against sanyaku opponents. Back in May, Oho became only the fourth such rikishi to defeat 3 or more sanyaku.

The list includes three rikishi who reached two sanyaku wins only due to a fusensho; I've included them for completeness, marked with * (and the relevant bout in grey).
 

Basho	Rikishi	vs M	vs Sy	Sanyaku opponents
1949.10	M6e Terunobori	2-9	2-2	O1e Masuiyama 0-1 (3-6-6)	O1w Chiyonoyama 3-0 (13-2)	Ke Itsutsuumi 1-7 (1-14)	Y1w Haguroyama 10-1 (12-3)
1951.05	M4w Aichiyama	3-8	2-2	O1e Chiyonoyama 1-0 (14-1)	O2e Shionoumi 1-1 (1-7-7)	Ke Tochinishiki 3-1 (9-6)	Se Mitsuneyama 3-2 (7-8)
1959.03	M5e Oginohana	1-8	2-4	O1w Kotogahama 1-0 (11-4)	S1e Tokitsuyama 0-2 (3-12)	Y1e Wakanohana 3-0 (12-3)	K1e Wakahaguro 4-0 (10-5)	K1w Wakachichibu 1-4 (2-13)	S1w Tamanoumi 3-3 (4-9-2)
1959.09	M4w Naruyama	1-8	5-1	S1w Fusanishiki 0-1 (2-13)	Ke Kitabayama 0-2 (8-7)	Oe Kotogahama 0-3 (0-6-9)	Y1w Wakanohana 4-1 (14-1)	S2w Wakahaguro 5-1 (12-3)	Kw Annenyama 3-4 (8-7)
1960.05	M5e Tokitsuyama	1-8	2-4	Y1w Tochinishiki 0-1 (0-3-12)	Ke Tochihikari 2-0 (6-9)	Y2e Asashio 2-1 (10-5)	Y1e Wakanohana 4-0 (13-2)	Oe Kotogahama 3-2 (3-7-5)	Sw Kashiwado 8-3 (10-5)
1964.03	M5w Hagurogawa	3-8	3-1	Y2e Tochinoumi 0-1 (10-5)	O2e Tochihikari 1-1 (4-6-5)	O1e Sadanoyama 1-2 (9-6)	Ke Kitanofuji 3-1 (4-11)
1966.07	M5w Wakatenryu	3-9	2-1	Y2w Sadanoyama 1-0 (11-4)	Se Kitanofuji 3-2 (10-5)	Ke Kotozakura 4-4 (9-6)
1966.09	M5e Myobudani	3-8	2-2	Ow Kitanofuji 0-1 (10-5)	Y2e Sadanoyama 2-0 (12-3)	Sw Kotozakura 5-5 (7-8)	Y1e Taiho 11-0 (13-2)
1973.01	M4e Ryuo	4-8	2-1	Ye Kitanofuji 7-2 (10-5)	Se Hasegawa 3-11 (4-11)	Ke Kitanoumi 4-11
1974.03	M4w Fukunohana	4-9	2-0	Kw Kongo 2-8 (4-11)	Sw Fujizakura 2-13
1974.03	M5e Arase	5-8	2-0	Y1w Kotozakura 6-4 (8-7)	Ke Kurohimeyama 5-7 (8-7)
1975.03	M4w Fukunohana	4-8	2-1	Se Wakamisugi 4-4 (9-6)	Ow Kaiketsu 7-3 (11-4)	Sw Kurohimeyama 3-11 (3-12)
1976.01	M5e Owashi	4-8	2-1	Yw Wajima 2-2 (12-3)	K1w Wakamisugi 4-10 (4-11)	K2e Fujizakura 3-12
1976.01	M6w Tochiazuma	5-8	2-0	K2e Fujizakura 3-11 (3-12)	K1w Wakamisugi 4-11
1977.11	M3w Masuiyama	2-8	2-3	Yw Wajima 3-0 (14-1)	S1e Arase 2-2 (8-7)	O1w Wakamisugi 5-0 (10-5)	Ke Yutakayama 2-5 (4-11)	S2e Takamiyama 3-10 (3-12)
1979.01	M5w Masudayama	4-9	2-0	Ke Aobayama 3-11 (4-11)	Kw Takamiyama 2-13
1979.03	M7w Masudayama	4-9	2-0	Kw Fujizakura 4-9 (6-9)	Se Tamanofuji 3-11 (4-11)
1979.09	M6w Kurohimeyama	4-8	2-1	Ke Masuiyama 4-4 (8-7)	Y1w Kitanoumi 9-2 (13-2)	Kw Tochihikari 2-13
1984.01	M4w Hidanohana	4-9	2-0	Sw Koboyama 2-11 (2-13)	Kw Masudayama 3-12
1985.09	M4e Tamaryu	2-8	2-3	O2w Wakashimazu 1-0 (9-6)	Ye Chiyonofuji 2-0 (15-0)	O1w Onokuni 3-1 (12-3)	O1e Hokutenyu 5-1 (9-6)	Kw Koboyama 1-9 (4-11)
1986.07	M5e Kirinji	5-8	2-0	Ke Kotogaume 5-4 (9-6)	Sw Asahifuji 3-8 (4-11)
1987.01	M5w Takanofuji	4-9	2-0	Ke Dewanohana 3-7 (5-10)	Sw Kirishima 3-12
1989.01	M4e Fujinoshin	4-8	2-1	Sw Daijuyama 4-9 (4-11)	Kw Misugisato 3-11 (3-12)	Ke Kirishima 1-14
1989.01	M8e Enazakura	4-9	2-0	Ke Kirishima 1-13 (1-14)	Kw Misugisato 3-12
1989.03	M3e Takanofuji	1-8	2-4*	O1w Hokutenyu 1-0 (12-3)	O1e Asahifuji 2-0 (13-2)	Se Sakahoko 2-1 (7-8)	O2e Asashio 0-5 (0-5-10)	Kw Hananoumi 0-6 (0-10-5)	Y2e Onokuni 10-0 (12-3)
1993.09	M7e Kiraiho	3-9	2-1	S1w Takanonami 5-1 (10-5)	O1w Wakanohana 7-2 (9-6)	O1e Takanohana 9-2 (12-3)
1994.03	M2e Wakashoyo	2-8	2-3	Se Kotonishiki 1-0 (10-5)	Kw Daizen 1-4 (5-10)	Ke Tochinowaka 2-6 (3-12)	O2w Musashimaru 7-2 (9-6)	Ye Akebono 9-2 (12-3)
1995.09	M5e Konishiki	3-8	2-2	O2e Takanonami 0-2 (8-7)	Ye Takanohana 4-0 (15-0)	O1w Wakanohana 3-2 (10-5)	K1e Kotonowaka 4-11
2004.09	M4e Asasekiryu	1-8	3-3	O2e Musoyama 0-3 (2-7-6)	Se Wakanosato 2-2 (10-5)	Kw Kotomitsuki 2-3 (8-7)	Sw Miyabiyama 2-4 (9-6)	O1e Kaio 6-2 (13-2)	Ke Kyokutenho 5-9 (5-10)
2007.09	M4w Wakanosato	3-8	2-2	O2w Kotomitsuki 4-1 (10-5)	O1e Chiyotaikai 7-1 (9-6)	Se Aminishiki 8-1 (10-5)	O1w Kotooshu 8-5 (8-7)
2009.01	M4w Kokkai	3-9	2-1	O1e Kotomitsuki 2-7 (2-10-3)	O2e Kotooshu 9-3 (10-5)	Ke Kisenosato 6-7 (8-7)
2010.01	M5e Yoshikaze	4-8	2-1*	O2e Kotomitsuki 1-7 (1-7-7)	O1e Kotooshu 7-3 (9-6)	Ke Kotoshogiku 5-7 (6-9)
2020.11	M5e Myogiryu	2-9	2-2	Sw Takanosho 4-4 (8-7)	Se Mitakeumi 6-3 (7-8)	O1e Takakeisho 9-1 (13-2)	Ke Terunofuji 9-2 (13-2)
2022.07	M6e Aoiyama	4-8	2-1*	Se Wakatakakage 6-5 (8-7)	O2w Shodai 8-4 (10-5)	Sw Daieisho 6-7 (6-7-2)
2023.01	M4e Nishikifuji	2-8	2-3	S1e Wakatakakage 3-4 (9-6)	Ow Takakeisho 7-1 (12-3)	S1w Hoshoryu 7-4 (8-7)	S2w Shodai 6-6 (6-9)	K2e Meisei 4-9 (5-10)
2023.01	M6w Myogiryu	4-9	2-0	K2e Meisei 4-10 (5-10)	S2w Shodai 6-9
2023.07	M2w Mitakeumi	1-8	2-4	S2w Wakamotoharu 1-0 (9-6)	S1w Daieisho 2-0 (9-6)	Ke Kotonowaka 2-1 (11-4)	S1e Hoshoryu 3-1 (12-3)	Ow Kirishima 2-3-2 (6-7-2)	Kw Abi 4-6 (6-9)
2024.03	M5e Midorifuji	5-8	2-0	O1w Hoshoryu 6-3 (11-4)	O1e Kirishima 3-9 (5-10)
2024.05	M4e Oho	2-8	4-1	O2w Kirishima 1-5 (1-6-8)	O1e Hoshoryu 4-3 (10-5)	O1w Kotozakura 6-2 (11-4)	Sw Abi 5-4 (10-5)	Se Wakamotoharu 4-7-3 (4-8-3)

A rather ragtag list, a few credible performances mixed in with a whole bunch of rikishi who got lucky to face extremely underperforming sanyaku opponents, often komusubi and often late in the basho.

By necessity most of these rikishi weren't quite in the joi-jin...with a joi schedule it's rare to get eight matches against maegashira in the first place.

[Naganoyama 5,855]

Honourable mention: Shotenro went 2-13 in September 2009. He beat only one sanyaku+ opponent but it was Hakuho.