Asashosakari 20,249 Posted October 1 (edited) New: Nagamura, now Himukamaru 日向丸 ひむかまる - Ms2w 5-2, Kise-beya, Miyazaki, 21 years old Goshima, now Fujiryōga 藤凌駕 ふじりょうが - Ms5w 6-1, Fujishima-beya, Aichi, 22 years old Returning: Kitanowaka - Ms1w 5-2, Hakkaku-beya, Yamagata, 24 years old, 2nd promotion, back after 3 basho former maegashira Wakanosho - Ms3w 5-2, Tokiwayama-beya, Tochigi, 22 years old, 2nd promotion, back after 2 basho No Takakento, Shiden stays up. https://x.com/sumokyokai/status/1973185968640553309 (Can't get it to embed even with my usual copy-paste tricks this time, so link only.) Edited October 1 by Asashosakari 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 1,783 Posted October 1 59 minutes ago, Asashosakari said: No Takakento, Shiden stays up. So another data point that a tie goes to the incumbent at the moment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kishinoyama 625 Posted October 1 I guess Shimanoumi just missed out as well and will be at Ms1w with that 2-5 record. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 1,783 Posted October 1 When is that retirement announcement? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yohcun 408 Posted October 1 Is it just my lame pronunciation skills, or is "Fujiryouga" especially tough to say? Fujirou-... F-Fujiryou... ga... Goshima. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raishu 219 Posted October 1 4 hours ago, Reonito said: When is that retirement announcement? Probably needs some time to shuffle things in the background. Akiseyama might still be searching for a job outside of Sumo (or a different kabu, who knows). Endo's demotion and ongoing injury problems surely don't make things easier, since his share is out on loan, too. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RabidJohn 2,070 Posted October 1 1 hour ago, yohcun said: Is it just my lame pronunciation skills, or is "Fujiryouga" especially tough to say? Fujirou-... F-Fujiryou... ga... Goshima. I find I'm fine with 'kyo' and 'ryu', but my 'ryo' always wants to sound like a place in Brazil, so I cheat. Juryo is jur-yo and this new sekitori is Fujir-yoga. . 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,226 Posted October 1 8 hours ago, Asashosakari said: New: Nagamura, now Himukamaru 日向丸 ひむかまる - Ms2w 5-2, Kise-beya, Miyazaki, 21 years old Goshima, now Fujiryōga 藤凌駕 ふじりょうが - Ms5w 6-1, Fujishima-beya, Aichi, 22 years old Two of the most annoying new shikonae lately. Himukamaru? Him Camel is how I'll remember it. Fujiryouga? Fudgy Yoga. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rokudenashi 343 Posted October 1 A cursory glance through the DB suggests using the ancient ひむか reading for 日向 might be a first, as there are plenty of shikona with Hyūga, Hiuga and Hinata in them, but no Himuka. Nor are there any with the alternative spelling 譬武伽, for completeness’ sake. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 6,394 Posted October 1 At least they're not Hakumukaho or Hakuhoyoga. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RabidJohn 2,070 Posted October 1 16 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said: At least they're not Hakumukaho or Hakuhoyoga. Please fix the forum so I can react again. In the meantime, roflmao. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ack! 499 Posted October 1 11 hours ago, Reonito said: So another data point that a tie goes to the incumbent at the moment. I was under the impression that 4-3 at Ms2e was a promotable record. Certainly at any lower rank 4-3 is good enough to move up 3 spots on the banzuke. Rankings at the top of Ms are a weird transition area between the rest of Ms and Juryo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 6,394 Posted October 1 1 hour ago, RabidJohn said: Please fix the forum so I can react again. You know how to fix it - http instead of https. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RabidJohn 2,070 Posted October 1 2 hours ago, Jakusotsu said: You know how to fix it - http instead of https. We must have different definitions of 'fix'. Only works one page at a time for me. The 's' is always back when I click to a new page. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 1,783 Posted October 1 9 hours ago, Kintamayama said: Two of the most annoying new shikonae lately. Himukamaru? Him Camel is how I'll remember it. Fujiryouga? Fudgy Yoga. And this is hot on the heels of Asasuiryu, the JSA really needs to exercise some QC over new shikona Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 1,783 Posted October 1 5 hours ago, Ack! said: I was under the impression that 4-3 at Ms2e was a promotable record. Certainly at any lower rank 4-3 is good enough to move up 3 spots on the banzuke. Rankings at the top of Ms are a weird transition area between the rest of Ms and Juryo. We've been operating under a hypothesis proposed by Asashosakari that in recent years, they simply make the promotion zone computed movement the difference between W and L, just as in Juryo. So 4-3 at Ms2e computes to Ms1e, as does 7-8 at J14e. It looked like the tie might go to the promotion candidate, but that was based on just one example IIRC, but after Natsu they kept Miyanokaze (6-9 at J13e) over promoting Kyokukaiyu (5-2 at Ms5e), who both computed to Ms2e. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 6,394 Posted October 1 2 hours ago, RabidJohn said: We must have different definitions of 'fix'. Only works one page at a time for me. The 's' is always back when I click to a new page. Still quicker than writing a post instead, isn't it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,151 Posted October 1 I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks those new shikona are very strange. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubinhaad 11,968 Posted October 1 FWIW the first two kanji of Himukamaru are taken from Hyuga Province (日向国), the old name for what is now Miyazaki prefecture. Where the reading comes from, I have no idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rokudenashi 343 Posted October 1 2 hours ago, Yubinhaad said: FWIW the first two kanji of Himukamaru are taken from Hyuga Province (日向国), the old name for what is now Miyazaki prefecture. Where the reading comes from, I have no idea. Himuka is an alternative, even older reading of Hyūga. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Suwihuto 145 Posted October 2 On 01/10/2025 at 14:40, Jakusotsu said: You know how to fix it - http instead of https. Aha, that explains the problems. Nice to see 'https' though - a while ago I was trying to browse the forum on my work machine, and got the equivalent of alarms and men descending down ropes to accost me when I tried to visit the site. Hopefully once this all settles down, things will be better for the future. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fashiritētā 213 Posted October 2 46 minutes ago, Suwihuto said: Aha, that explains the problems. Nice to see 'https' though - a while ago I was trying to browse the forum on my work machine, and got the equivalent of alarms and men descending down ropes to accost me when I tried to visit the site. Hopefully once this all settles down, things will be better for the future. My job also considers the sumo forum a not safe website, really wierd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,815 Posted October 2 (edited) Fujiryoga has to live up to his new shikona now, Fujishima's superior one to others. With the hope to have him get even a bit higher, Fujishima had thought of this shikona for him, since Goshima entered: "No tactics, going through with head-on fights, that's the rikishi I want to raise him into." The -ryoga 凌駕 part is made of old characters, 凌 shinogu is survive and surpass, appearing in the Nara period poetry collection Manyoshu, the ga can also be shinogu and appears in the Sankaiki 山槐記 diary of Nakayama Tadachika from the Heian period, a taste of ancient times. Fujiryoga wants to become a rikishi with stirring oshi-zumo, who gives vigour to those around him and watch. "Don't take the mawashi, not getting the mawashi taken, that's the sumo I want to take on." "To tell my desire, I want to rise to makuuchi, when I gradually climb up the banzuke." o http://www.sanspo.com/article/20251001-U3BQIY5CWZL25LTVI6SYJSHVUE/ Edited October 2 by Akinomaki 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koorifuu 1,120 Posted October 2 1 hour ago, Fashiritētā said: My job also considers the sumo forum a not safe website, really wierd Offtopic but this is common for ancient bulletin board style forums. One former colleague once had serious issues with IT for signing into a similar website. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I am the Yokozuna 222 Posted October 3 On 01/10/2025 at 22:36, Yubinhaad said: FWIW the first two kanji of Himukamaru are taken from Hyuga Province (日向国), the old name for what is now Miyazaki prefecture. Learning such tidbits keeps me coming back to the website. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
