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  1. Raishu

    Sumo Reference Updates

    It looks like Kagamio's heya change hasn't been acknowledged in the database (maybe due to him being banzuke gai?). http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=2929 Ryusei's data (the second survivor of the now defunct Kagamiyama beya) seem to be fine.
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    Araiso-heya branch out

    Well, first of all, you simply need some deshi to kickstart your heya generally. After its establishment, Araiso will still have plenty of time to gather real prospects at his stable. For example, Kise oyakata also took some - let's say mediocre - rikishi with him, before he turned his heya into a university grad powerhouse years later. It doesn't really matter what Araiso is doing now as long as his stable will prosper in the long run, IMO
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    Ikioi retires

    Just on a quick side note: Regardless whether we know anything about Ikioi's potential desire to become a stablemaster, the fastest way for him to get in charge of a heya would be to take over Kagamiyama-beya in 2023. Same ichimon and apparently an Isenoumi-offspring-stable ... a takeover which would preserve the heya's historic lifeline in a way. And let's be honest: Taking over Kagamiyama is basically a start from scratch with just two remaining riskihi (who might retire alongside their shisho) and one affiliated oyakata.
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    Araiso-heya branch out

    I am also surprised to see a deshi following him, who has basically joined Ozumo one basho after Araiso-oyakata himself. I guess they have naturally bonded over time, probably also due to the fact, that Adachi served as Kise's tsukebito for many years. And Tagonoura won't lose a rikishi with much room for improvement, since Adachi is already 35 years of age. Good luck to the new shisho!!
  5. Excellent post!! That one should probably pinned somewhere, as it provides all necceassary information on how kabu acquistion worked/works in the NSK. Speaking of money trades and whether they still occur or not, I would throw my guess into the ring and claim they still happen and will continue to happen. Eventhough the NSK assigns the successor of a myoseki now, I can't imagine the oyakata in charge to shoot themselves in the foot and abolish money trades entirely, since they themselves had to pay millions of yen to receive their elder stock in the past. In a way, these kabu also serve as an additional retirement fund for former rikshi, since you can expect a nice money boost from selling a kabu and pretty much polish up your last years financially. I would imagine it the following way (but be aware this is just pure guessing without having clear facts on the matter). Oyakata X reaches 65 (or 70) and has to consider leaving the NSK. X gets into contact with the administration and asks, who has applied to receive his elder stock Z. NSK tells X, that rikishi Y wants to acquire Z and is the destined successor to the stock. X reaches out to Y and tells him, he will support his desire to acquire elder stock Z and both start to negotiate private payments on a certain sum (maybe a monthly rate), which will not be reflected on any official accounting of the NSK whatsoever. X and Y come to an agreement. X reaches back to the NSK and approves that he will leave the NSK for good and supports the appointment of Y as a new oyakata. This concept is also insprired by the fact, that rikishi can still loan a kabu from other rikishi. Why would we need to claim a former sekitori borrowed the kabu from the actual shareholder, when the certificates had to be given back to the NSK? Maybe I am wrong here, but I would consider a rikishi to be the "owner" of a kabu, when he is officially assigned to carry the name. Tricky indeed! As a public interest coorperation, they probably handle (or have to handle) things as described above officially, but I can't imagine 105 investors (they are basically investors to me ) to throw away millions of yen voluntarily, that once had to be payed for the stock.
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    Next Most Likely Branch-out

    Lol, as if someone has followed our discussion here. So Yoshikaze has become the number contender for the Oguruma-name or what?
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    Next Most Likely Branch-out

    Interesting topic. I'd say Akinomaki's analysis is pretty good and reflects my thoughts on potential branch-outs, aside from what he has summarized concerning recent media reports (Araiso, Oshiogawa, Nakamura, Hidenoyama). Overall, opening a new stable often depends on whether a rikishi sees a chance to take over his home stable (or another one), or wants to face the challenge to build from scratch. Kasugano e.g., he will turn 60 next year and ex-Tochiozan is still pretty young. A takeover at the age of ~40y. would still give him two and a half decades to lead one of the most prestigous heya out there (unless guys like Tochinonada or Tochinohana have already received the promise for a takeover). Same could be said about Takekuma (Sakaigawa shares the same age as Kasugano) - but as an ex-Ozeki, he might go independent (as seems to be the norm with many rikishi, who have reached the top two ranks). Onogawa has to be erased from the list, since he simply doesn't qualify for a branch-out (minimum sixty Makuuchi basho). Regarding Kakuryu: Michinoku will turn 65 in 2024. IMHO, he can take the opportunity to learn from ex-Kirishima the next years and then take over smoothly, when the shisho will reach the mandatory retirement age (maybe renaming the heya Izutsu-beya, since it is a branch-off from Kakuryu's ex-stable). On a general note: I have voiced the opinion several times, that I hope for less branch-outs, since we already have enough stables out there (some of them being super small and barely providing a fruitful training environment - Kagamiyama or Kataonami come to mind). Aside from the already named rikishi, I can't see who might branch-out in the near future ... so I will just wait and see.
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    Juryo promotions for May 2021

    Well, Bushozan was demotable by numbers, so that's tough luck in a way.. On the flip side, he had his own fate in his hands on day 15, but couldn't seal the deal. I guess a 5-2 from Ms3e wouldn't have been ignored.
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    New recruits Haru 2021

    Ah, I see. I didn't bother to look up his real name. Your assumption seems to fit way better then.
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    New recruits Haru 2021

    Potential first recruit by Goeido ... looking at the kanji.
  11. Raishu

    March basho 2021

    Not Safe For Work. I second Eikokurai's opinion that this bout could easily be mistaken by any supervisor. :-D
  12. Raishu

    Sumo Reference Updates

    Just stumbled upon this: Tatsunami beya's Kitadaichi uses a different first name. He is known as 豊 (Yutaka) not 大地 (Daichi) http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Rikishi.aspx?r=12155&l=j http://xn--psso2y7wo.jp/rikishiPro/senreki/12155
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    Rikishi Status - 2021 Haru Basho

    Preparing his life as an affiliated oyakata and wait a few more weeks until his share becomes available. We can strongly assume that a loanee has to pay the actual owner of a kabu an undisclosed/unofficial amount of money for this service - Ikioi (and all the others) won't do this for Samaritan reasons obv. EDIT: In case you meant "between now and his actual retirement". If not, then Asashosakari's answer applies.
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    Rikishi Status - 2021 Haru Basho

    These kind of information exist, that's true. But what are his options? He can't branch out on his own, since he doesn't qualify for that (Y,O, or minimum 60 basho in Makuuchi). Isenoumi himself is still 10 years away from the mandatory retirement age, that will leave his wife quite some time to stay active as a golfer. The only immediate change would occur if Ikioi takes over an existing heya. Looking at his ichimon, he could potentially take over Kagamiyama in two years, but there haven't been any rumours concerning that. I will stick with my point that his postponed retirement doesn't have anything to do with his plans on becoming a shisho.
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    Rikishi Status - 2021 Haru Basho

    What would that big change be specifically? I guess Ikioi's postponed retirement is rather related to kabu-negotiations in the background. Since his Kasugayama share is in use at the moment, him picking up the name right away would cause another retired rikishi (ex-Bushuyama) to be jobless within the blink of an eye.