Flying_Monkey 0 Posted January 20, 2006 How did he pull that off? Was it just excellent tactics - refusing to allow Asa to get his grip and staying low? Or is Asa injured? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest bnona Posted January 20, 2006 stupid Ama. are you mongolian or not? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 125 Posted January 20, 2006 stupid Ama. are you mongolian or not? yeah he is a friend with Hakuho ..... (Clapping wildly...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AsaMoe 0 Posted January 20, 2006 stupid Ama. are you mongolian or not? ???? Sumo is a sport, where this should not matter. And Asashoryu is strong enough, that he does not need the help of others to win the yusho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesinofuji 11 Posted January 20, 2006 If Ama had thrown the match all it would have proven is that he has no respect for Asashoryu and he doubts Asashoryu could win without his help...In sports, friend or foe, countryman or not, one must do their best to win. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
asa_love 0 Posted January 20, 2006 about 2 weeks ago i watched a show with asashoryu & gang (kyokutenho, tokitenku,asasekiryu) excluding kyokushuzan, hakuho and ama. (probably cos they are not liked by shoryu). they went on a trip together, ate the best foods and rode horses etc. (seemed like had fun!) and this basho .. seems like all those that went on the trip are not doing so well. maybe something about the 25000 yen steak that they all had Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Petr 0 Posted January 20, 2006 I would expect more words of congratulation in this thread. I found Ama impressive notwistanding his yesterday's "joke". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lucius Flavonius 0 Posted January 20, 2006 stupid Ama. are you mongolian or not? Listen, this is not our beloved national wrestling, where you pay 2 000 000 - 10 000 000 MNT to get a win or a rank, or you lose just because your opponent is your wife's nephew. If you have this kind of approach to sumo, then you are wrong. Ozumo is not like that. Ozumo is an honest sport. Ama is my hero. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,223 Posted January 20, 2006 (edited) and this basho .. seems like all those that went on the trip are not doing so well. Not that it might have anything to do with the fact that a) Asashoryu had (too?) little training before the basho, b) Tokitenku and Asasekiryu are severely overranked, and c) Kyokutenho just had two good basho, so a bad one this time doesn't exactly come unexpected, given how inconsistent he has always been. Edited January 20, 2006 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coo-cook 0 Posted January 20, 2006 (edited) Just saw Dale's movie. It's not Ama who beat Yokozuna. The Yokozuna just gave it to Ama. (We may hear some warning from YDC on that matter later, or maybe not....It's not an yaocho (how you spell it?) or something ... because he already made his mind before the bout, he made a "small" favour to his countryman.... (In addition to his heavy arm, the guy is just tired...) Since the yusho is out of his hand he may loose easely to Kotooshu tomorrow. But, he may want beat Tochiazuma to give Hakuho some chance.... Edited January 20, 2006 by Coo-cook Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sanvean 0 Posted January 20, 2006 Yokozuna is clearly not in his best form, but I doubt that he will try to help other rikishi get the yusho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coo-cook 0 Posted January 20, 2006 but I doubt that he will try to help other rikishi get the yusho. He will...Question is whether he can... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shimpu 0 Posted January 20, 2006 It's not Ama who beat Yokozuna. The Yokozuna just gave it to Ama. Gave it? (Jumping in ecstasy...) Man... gave it ???? Asashoryu ?? The guy who is aiming for became the great of the greatest? Today he was still chasing the Yusho! Do you think he is out because of being 1 win behind ? Man, he still has a chance to get yusho (Praying...) . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bishonohana 0 Posted January 20, 2006 stupid Ama. are you mongolian or not? What does that have to do anything with Asa's loss to Ama?? (Praying...) AND why would you say that??? Ama won and that's that. (Jumping in ecstasy...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonosuke 28 Posted January 20, 2006 Aasashoryu had his right arm heavily bandaged up today. The right elbow he injured yesterday (or perhaps the day before) must be bothering him. Big boys do not make an excuse and he offered none today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coo-cook 0 Posted January 20, 2006 Gave it? Man... gave it ???? Asashoryu ?? The guy who is aiming for became the great of the greatest? Today he was still chasing the Yusho! Do you think he is out because of being 1 win behind ? Man, he still has a chance to get yusho Yes. almost. Maybe I formulated wrong. Asa decided that he wouldn't give his all on that bout. It's almost the same as "giving". Ama hitting the Asa's left leg looked very brilliant move.But, it's not really the winning move. It was Asa's "giving". Yeah, sounds very strange, huh?.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zuikakuyama 1 Posted January 20, 2006 Asa was already beaten before he got on the dohyo. He didn't even give his usual stare down the hanamichi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,259 Posted January 20, 2006 I think it is foolish to believe that Asashoryu had already given up on the yusho and "gifted" the win to Ama. It is just that obvious: Including the Ama bout, Asashoryu still could have won the yusho on his own (Hokutoriki already lost before that bout). Just win all bouts, including possible kettei-sen and he wins the yusho, period. So why lose on purpose? This is just dumb, illogical reasoning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,223 Posted January 20, 2006 (edited) Moti was right, every time a Mongolian loses, there must be a conspiracy involved. Usually by the evil old men in the Kyokai, but obviously if the opponent also happens to be Mongolian, the Kyokai has no power, so it must be an internal conspiracy among Mongolians then. Everybody knows that unexpected results simply never happen in sports unless some nefarious influence is at work. Edited January 20, 2006 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coo-cook 0 Posted January 20, 2006 This is just dumb, illogical reasoning. It's his arm....he has no weapon... Of course, he could fight like Tamanoshima...but for what? He made his "obligatory" 10 wins already....he's probably thinking whether he should go kyujo or try to help Hakuho and finish basho without noisy (another) kyujo declaration ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shimpu 0 Posted January 20, 2006 he's probably thinking whether he should go kyujo or try to help Hakuho and finish basho without noisy (another) kyujo declaration ... I think Hokuho is the very last person who Asa would like to help at the moment (Pulling hair...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takanorappa 97 Posted January 20, 2006 It's his arm....he has no weapon... I'd agree. It looked to me like the Yokozuna was trying anything to not use that right arm. I suspect that the injury is somewhat severe. Really hope not, though... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Coo-cook 0 Posted January 20, 2006 Moti was right, every time a Mongolian loses, there must be a conspiracy involved. Usually by the evil old men in the Kyokai, but obviously if the opponent also happens to be Mongolian, the Kyokai has no power, so it must be an internal conspiracy among Mongolians then. Everybody knows that unexpected results simply never happen in sports unless some nefarious influence is at work. Oh,...our Asashosakari is in town... (well, no more Asa-Ama thing from me, I promise)... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yoma 0 Posted January 20, 2006 I hardly ever saw Asa screw up as badly as today. This remembers me of Aki 2004 when he was thrown down by tochinonada and suddenly started to get Oshidashi'd by Iwakiyama and stuff without showing any of his over-ambitious energy. I think that he will approach the two upcoming bouts a lot more carefully as usually and I don't think he'll win more than one of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,180 Posted January 21, 2006 I have to disagree with the theory that Asa "gave" it to Ama. I think the last person on earth he'd "give" anything to is a Maegashira 6 in their first match-up, regardless where he hails from. What "gave" is his elbow/arm. He can't fight anywhere near his usual self with this kind of an injury, and he also can't go kyujo given all that's at stake for his opponents. So he may just go through the moves and lose today and tomorrow, but it won't be because he's "giving' anything to anyone - he's just in the middle of a situation. Given another situation whereby there was a more or less clear cut yusho candidate, I suspect he would have gone kyujo after today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
