Nagoya Ozeki Promotion Tracking (Daiesho, Hosoryu, Wakmotoharu)

[rhyen 1,808]

 

[Kishinoyama 582]

4 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

Shimpan top Sadogatake would like to have all three make it to ozeki this time….

I would like to see this happen because it has never happened before. If I remember correctly, the last double ozeki promotion was Takanonami and Musashimaru. 

 

 

[Karusoni 8]

1 hour ago, Kishinoyama said:

I would like to see this happen because it has never happened before. If I remember correctly, the last double ozeki promotion was Takanonami and Musashimaru. 

Correct. 

The last three double Ozeki promotions involved rikishi from Futagoyama-beya. Wakanohana I himself, then in Hanakago-beya, became Ozeki after a double promotion.

The second and third to last double promotions were Futagoyama/Hanakago combinations. The double promotion before those was a Kasugano-beya pair.

So not much variety in terms of stables when it comes to the last handful double promotions... 

Edited July 7, 2023 by Karusoni

[Katooshu 3,132]

11 hours ago, robnplunder said:

Day 1 outlook:

Daieisho vs Shodai - A sure win for Daieisho as he beat Shodai in their last 9 of 10 matches.  

Hoshoryu vs Tobizaru - Hoshoryu should have no issue out-maneuvering the little guy.

Kirishima vs Nishikigi - Nishikigi finished the last basho with 8 straight wins.  If he still has the same form, he will give Kirishima all he can handle.  I see this match as a potential upset win fro Nishikigi.  

I mean Tobizaru beat Hosh last basho, so I'm not sure it's that much of a breeze match-up for the latter...

[RabidJohn 1,663]

The joi looks pretty dangerous for any sanyaku with an eye on 11+ wins this time, and Hakuoho looks to me like he could pull 'an Ichinojo' on his first makuuchi outing.

[Reonito 1,335]

51 minutes ago, Katooshu said:

I mean Tobizaru beat Hosh last basho, so I'm not sure it's that much of a breeze match-up for the latter...

Hosh should know to watch out for the henka this time...

[Katooshu 3,132]

And that's when the wily monkey exploits his hesitancy with a massive blast at the tachiai 

[robnplunder 974]

16 hours ago, RabidJohn said:

Yes, we should. 

He's up against Mitakeumi - 3-1 h2h in Wakamotoharu's favour.

Wakamotoharu should handle Mitakeumi easily.  The latter has been acting like Ichinojo for some time now.   

[Benihana 1,901]

I say, all 3 will do it. What do you think?

 

[Reonito 1,335]

18 hours ago, robnplunder said:

Wakamotoharu should handle Mitakeumi easily.  The latter has been acting like Ichinojo for some time now.   

The Ichinojo who won the yusho a year ago, and went 14-1 in juryo before his shock retirement?

[robnplunder 974]

8 hours ago, Reonito said:

The Ichinojo who won the yusho a year ago, and went 14-1 in juryo before his shock retirement?

That wasn't Ichinojo.  That was an alien in his body trying to experience Sumo on his trip to Earth.  When he left (beamed up to his spaceship), Ichi had nothing left and was forced to go intai.  

[Koorifuu 886]

Very dodgy sumo, raised eyebrows and one defiant ex-ozeki, but day one's an early success.

[robnplunder 974]

No surprises as all Ozeki hopefuls (Diaieisho, Hoshoryu, and Wakamotoharu) won their 1st match.  

Things are even looking better with two current Ozeki going kyujo.  Maybe, there is room for two or more new Ozeki in the next basho?

Day 2:

Daiesio vs Mitakeumi - I am giving the edge to Mr. D.  Mitakeumi's Ichinojo imitation to continue.

Wakamotorharu vs Tobizaru - Am expecting an entertaining win for Wakamotoharu after what I've seen from Tobi on day one.

Hoshoryu vs Shodai - Hoshoryu all the way.   

[Hoshotakamoto 256]

right place for this?
 

Edited July 9, 2023 by Hoshotakamoto
i always mess up Hakuoho

[Seiyashi 4,071]

Maybe the generic basho thread for now. Doubt the rest of the sekitori really make much of a difference to the ōzeki at this time.

[Reonito 1,335]

1 hour ago, Seiyashi said:

Maybe the generic basho thread for now. Doubt the rest of the sekitori really make much of a difference to the ōzeki at this time.

Or we can open the promotion/demotion thread early and it would just be this for the first week to ten days

[Reonito 1,335]

On 07/07/2023 at 11:13, Katooshu said:

And that's when the wily monkey exploits his hesitancy with a massive blast at the tachiai 

Instead, they both stood up, expecting shenanigans, and we got ... whatever that was

[robnplunder 974]

Shodai looked like his old Ozeki self in beating Wakamotoharu who goes 2-1.

Nishikigi upset Hoshryu who also goes 2-1.

Daieisho had an easy time with undersized Midorifuji who is clearly out of his league in going against top rankers.

The good news for the 2-1 Ozeki hopefuls is that Terunofuji looked terrible in the last two matches.  If it didn't happen already, I see a kyujo coming.  Either way, this is good news for all three Ozeki candidates.

OTOH, Takayasu looks to be strong enough to throw a wrench in their way.

 

Day 4:

Hoshoryu to get his 3rd win against Mitakeumi who looks to be clueless in getting a win.

Daieiso & Nishikigi match is a tossup in my opinion.  I give the edge to Mr. D just b/c he is my personal favorite.

Wakamotoharu will get an easy win against Midorifuji.

 

 

 

Edited July 11, 2023 by robnplunder

[robnplunder 974]

NIshikigi didn't have to show much to beat Daieisho who gets his 1st loss.  Ugh!

Everyone is benefitting from Mitakeumi's decline.  It was an easy win for Hoshoryu who rebounded from the loss on Day 3.

Easy win for Wakamotoharu against Midorifuji.

 

Day 5:

Daieisho meets Mesisei who has a very poor record against the former.  Mr. D should pick up his 4th win.

Wakamotoharu goes agasint an undefeated Nishikigi.  Despite his 4 straight wins, I couldn't see how good his current form is (a fusen win, and a short match on day 4).  He needs to bring his best to beat Mr. W whom I think will prevail.

Hoshoryu matches up well against Abi who settled down at his current rank after his Yusho.  Mr. H should get his 4th win.

 

All the hopeful's chance at the promotion looks good so far, especially with Teruno & Takakeisho out.   Only Takayasu and each other seem to be standing in their quest. Gonoyama, if he keeps on winning, may play a spoiler down the stretch.  It's wait and see on Kirishima who had a nice win on his re-entry into the basho.  If he stays healthy, he may also be a spoiler.

[dingo 1,159]

Given that all ozeki candidates are 3-1, they have to go at least 50-50 against each other in order to be able to afford another loss against any other rikishi, for example Kirishima and maintain the possibility for a triple promotion. If one of the three loses both bouts against the other candidates, they'll have to win against all other rikishi. Daieisho is in a better position cause he can afford an extra loss. Still, pretty thin margins for all of them. 

Edited July 12, 2023 by dingo

[Bunbukuchagama 688]

25 minutes ago, dingo said:

Given that all ozeki candidates are 3-1, they have to go at least 50-50 against each other in order to be able to afford another loss against any other rikishi, for example Kirishima and maintain the possibility for a triple promotion. If one of the three loses both bouts against the other candidates, they'll have to win against all other rikishi. Daieisho is in a better position cause he can afford an extra loss. Still, pretty thin margins for all of them. 

Just watch Takayasu plow through them all like an Abrams tank. 

Edited July 12, 2023 by Bunbukuchagama

[dingo 1,159]

21 minutes ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

Just watch Takayasu plow through them all like an Abrams tank. 

And then lose 5 straight and waste another perfectly good yusho opportunity. 

[Bunbukuchagama 688]

9 minutes ago, dingo said:

And then lose 5 straight and waste another perfectly good yusho opportunity. 

We might be getting a new episode of the epic series "Takaysu: The Quest for Jun-Yusho". 

[Yamanashi 3,723]

52 minutes ago, Bunbukuchagama said:

Just watch Takayasu plow through them all like an Abrams tank. 

 ... and lose to Nishikigi for the Yusho. 

[Sumo_da 34]

Gonoyama is by far my favourite this tournament. He just seems like a great package: good strength, technique and movement. He doesn't "look" like a champion but he has that fire many other youngsters lack. It's also great to see one of Goeido's disciples do so well.