Haru 2023 discussion (results)

[Leoben 159]

Looks like our Yokozuna hopeful's hopes have been dashed only 4 days in.

[Tigerboy1966 1,539]

I am loving Daieisho's sumo even more than usual this time. So often we see oshi- wrestlers start looking for a pull when their inital charge stalls but this lad just ignites the second stage rocket and keeps on coming. If he sees off Shodai tomorrow I think he will be just about favourite to win this one.

Edited March 15, 2023 by Tigerboy1966
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[Seiyashi 4,109]

3 minutes ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

If he sees off Shodai tomorrow I think he will be just about favourite to win this one.

I wonder if we will see a record breaking number of repeat yūshō winners in the top division at some point in the near future. 

Edited March 15, 2023 by Seiyashi

[Akinomaki 41,183]

Two 45 year old veterans met on the dohyo today

Jd59e Tenichi (1-1) oshidashi Jd57w Satonofuji (0-2)

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30 years career Tenichi beat the 27 years career bow twirler

 

Two ex-makuuchi met in sandanme today after last 5 years ago, then in juryo.

Sd56w Amakaze (2-0) hatakikomi Sd55w Kyokutaisei (1-1)
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Kyokutaisei said his left knee is 60-70% healed, but it still hurts. He now aims for a 6-1

 

On day 2 Suguro returned to the dohyo with a win after 233 days - he had joined Kyushu 2021 while already in corporate sumo just before his sdTD qualification from the All Japan 2019  expired. Last year Nagoya he finished 6-1 in sandanme, losing to Asanoyama, but then had two times surgery because of retina detachment. End of October he could do some exercises again, end of January he restarted training.

Jd60w Suguro (1-0) oshidashi Jd61e Satotanaka (0-1)
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Tomokaze on day 1 had a sekitori win after 1267 days again, Asanoyama after 662 days.

[Jakusotsu 6,188]

1 hour ago, Akinomaki said:

1 hour ago, Kishinoyama said:

Are we now calling Ichinojo the next ozeki? 

That's reserved for Abi for quite a while now

Nope, it's still Shodai.

[Faustonowaka 134]

(N)ex(t)-Ozeki Shodai

[since_94 650]

13 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

Fun fact- Hokuseihou is currently living in the single room that Akebono (same height- 2.04 meters) lived in back then. The current Miyagino beya is located at the old Azumazeki premises.

The resemblance is uncanny on many levels. Similar build. Skin tone. Facial features. Identical height. His way of moving reminds me of Akebono, too, but I’m now seeing the Hakuho influence in his movements, as mentioned by another poster. I think we’re witnessing the start of something big.

[since_94 650]

Day four was a little bland, IMHO. The most humdrum so far. Not much replay value, Asanoyama’s loss and Abi’s dispatching of the Ozeki and would-be heir apparent notwithstanding. 

[Leoben 159]

47 minutes ago, since_94 said:

His way of moving reminds me of Akebono, too, but I’m now seeing the Hakuho influence in his movements, as mentioned by another poster. I think we’re witnessing the start of something big.

His use of his hips really stood out to me today, dipping a little to gain leverage and drive with power. Nice little technical gesture that reminded me of his mentor.

[Akinomaki 41,183]

1 hour ago, Leoben said:

His use of his hips really stood out to me today, dipping a little to gain leverage and drive with power. Nice little technical gesture that reminded me of his mentor.

In this interview he told that he trains Hakuho's migi yottsu grip - that improved his sumo

On 11/03/2023 at 21:06, Akinomaki said:

Hokuseiho interviewed the other day by NHK Hokkaido

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he wants to give the oyakata a makuuchi-debut kanto-sho for 10 wins as a present

Edited March 15, 2023 by Akinomaki

[Kintamayama 45,974]

6 hours ago, Kishinoyama said:

Are we now calling Ichinojo the next ozeki? 

No, it's Shoudai. Always was, always is, and always will be.

[ryafuji 823]

Two ex-makuuchi meeting in sandanme has got to be a first, surely. 

Edited March 15, 2023 by ryafuji

[Benevolance 2,519]

I'm on the Shodai hype train. CHOOO CHOOOOOO!

[Koorifuu 1,079]

31 minutes ago, ryafuji said:

Two ex-makuuchi meeting in sandanme has got to be a first, surely. 

Found this one

2019.03

Day 4

Sd35w Yoshiazuma

hatakikomi

Sd34e Yamaguchi

[Octofuji 387]

Aoiyama's foot didn't look out to me. It reminded me of Asanoyama v Tochinoshin in 2019.

[Kishinoyama 603]

4 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

No, it's Shoudai. Always was, always is, and always will be.

The next ozeki Shodai comment you made in the video the other day was part of the reason for my comment today. The other reason being Ichinojo winning against Asanoyama today.

Edited March 15, 2023 by Kishinoyama

[Octofuji 387]

Having to fight Asanoyama then Hokuseiho on consecutive days is a pretty tough juryo schedule for Ichinojo!

One of the most interesting things about this basho is wondering how good these guys coming up, or back up (Asanoyama, Kinbozan, Hokuseiho) really are...

[dingo 1,388]

1 hour ago, Octofuji said:

One of the most interesting things about this basho is wondering how good these guys coming up, or back up (Asanoyama, Kinbozan, Hokuseiho) really are...

I definitely agree with that angle. Speaking of Hokuseiho, he is doing well but I'm not quite convinced his style will be effective against top makuuchi. He seems too passive. But perhaps that will change. Kinbozan seems strong but a fairly regular oshi rikishi and we already have plenty of those with Takakeisho being the only one who has managed to make it to ozeki. 

[Benevolance 2,519]

Hokuseiho is simply modeling his entire sumo style off of Shodai's tachi ai. 

[Tigerboy1966 1,539]

So we have had 7 different winners in the last 7 basho, and I think the record for a run of this type is 8, from November 1990 up to January 1992.

It looks very likely that the record will be equaled. The last seven winners have been Mitakeumi (now 1-3), Wakatakakage (0-4), Terunofuji (kyujo), Ichinojo (juryo), Tamawashi (1-3), Abi (3-1) and Takakeisho (2-2 and obviously hurt). Abi and Takakeisho are the only two of these who look remotely like yusho contenders to me.

[Reonito 1,613]

23 minutes ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

So we have had 7 different winners in the last 7 basho, and I think the record for a run of this type is 8, from November 1990 up to January 1992.

It looks very likely that the record will be equaled. The last seven winners have been Mitakeumi (now 1-3), Wakatakakage (0-4), Terunofuji (kyujo), Ichinojo (juryo), Tamawashi (1-3), Abi (3-1) and Takakeisho (2-2 and obviously hurt). Abi and Takakeisho are the only two of these who look remotely like yusho contenders to me.

It's very rare for someone to start 2-2 and win the yusho; the last time was Harumafuji's 11-4 swan song. No one has won Makuuchi after starting worse than that (it's been done from 1-3 a couple of times in Juryo).

[Kaninoyama 1,866]

Don't want to jinx the poor man, but Takayasu is off to a nice 4-0 start and looks solid. 

[Benevolance 2,519]

You say you don't want to jinx him, and then you go and jinx him. RIP Takayasu's chances. 

[Seiyashi 4,109]

1 hour ago, Reonito said:

It's very rare for someone to start 2-2 and win the yusho; the last time was Harumafuji's 11-4 swan song. No one has won Makuuchi after starting worse than that (it's been done from 1-3 a couple of times in Juryo).

WTK's yūshō came from a 0-3 into 1-3 start. 

Edited March 16, 2023 by Seiyashi

[Reonito 1,613]

24 minutes ago, Seiyashi said:

WTK's yūshō came from a 0-3 into 1-3 start. 

that was actually one of his best starts:

2022.03

S1e

12-3 Y

Are you perhaps thinking of this (one of a very few JY from 0-3)?

2022.09

S1e

11-4 J

Edited March 16, 2023 by Reonito