808morgan 814 Posted January 23, 2015 ‹ Oh man, I was all pumped up after this and the Hakuho match, I really wanted things to go the other way for Harumafuji and Kisenosato. But it wasn't to be. Still great matches and rematches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wanderer 159 Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) I heard it from many Mongolian grand champions, including Hakuho's father, that their mere movement becomes a winning technique in their prime. They were so much far above the rest. I think Hakuho is doing just what his father used to do. Edited January 23, 2015 by wanderer 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,653 Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) And he's not done yet. Barring a sudden and rapid collapse of his strength, competitive cunning and technique, he's got more yuusho's under his mawashi. Only 3 times since reaching yokozuna has he failed to get 12 wins, and he manages a 13 wins or better effort 5/6 basho each year. The bar is very, very high. Even those contenders that can beat him (Kise, Haru, Goiedou, Kak come to mind) will not challenge his dominance until they can beat all the other rikishi with the same consistency that Hak shows.Or until Hakuho stops his super-human dominance of opponents ranked sekiwake and below. I doubt any of the other yokozuna and ozeki have the potential to ever go 9-1 or 10-0 against that crowd consistently, so what's ultimately going to stop Hak in his tracks is when he can no longer do that. He's no longer quite as dominant as he used to be, but it's still plenty enough for those 10 opponents each basho. Edited January 23, 2015 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shumitto 418 Posted January 23, 2015 It will be a while before we will see another one as consistently good as he is. I'm really pleased I was able to see him win his 33rd Yusho and I hope he turns it into a zensho on the weekend. I really hope it takes a long, long time. I don't know to which extent my position is out of the mainstream, but it is not for these kind of things that I would watch sumo or any other sport. I prefer competitiveness over dominance any given day. The advantage of sumo over team sports in that regard is that you know that any dominance one day will end, even if it is followed by another one shortly (Takanohana<Asashoryu<Hakuho<Goeido :-P ). 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Highway 46 Posted January 23, 2015 Amazing. Kise did his best, he really tried, but Hakuho is the undisputed champion. What can you say. A living legend. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CT3* 331 Posted January 23, 2015 (edited) I feel fortunate to be witness history in the making. I attended a single day of the January 2013 basho and Hakuho lost on that day to Kotooshuu. At the time, I was just happy to be able to witness the zabuton fly in the Kokugikan. But I got to take in 3 days of the current basho. I got to see the zabuton fly when Kakuryuu lost, but I'll always be able to say that I attended the basho in which Hakuho broke the record. And after witnessing three consecutive days of live sumo, I'm already planning to head back next year for the Osaka basho. Can't wait! Edited January 23, 2015 by CT3* 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bettega 431 Posted January 23, 2015 Hakuho's WORST results in the last 8 years were 2 basho with 10-5. Just unbelievable. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rzombie1988 159 Posted January 23, 2015 Hakuho has now won 5 tournaments in a row. I'm wondering how high that streak will go. His ace in the hole is never losing in the first week, and no one's going to catch him until they can do it as well. It's hard to see him slowing down and it's hard to see anyone taking any titles from him when Kak/Haruma average 3-4 losses or more per tournament. Harumafuji's tachi-ai was so fast today. He looked like he literally ran into it. I have no idea how he can generate such speed from that position. I'm kind of disappointed with the lower and mid ranked guys this basho. No one has really stuck out to me this time around.minus Tokitenku. Lots of disappointments with Tochinoshin, Aoiyama and Ichinojo. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kishinoyama 596 Posted January 23, 2015 Hakuho has finished in first or second place in all but TWO tournaments as a Yokozuna. Wow.... (I am not worthy...) 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ryafuji 815 Posted January 24, 2015 What's also amazing is that Hakuho has never missed a single bout as a yokozuna. Sat out one basho as an ozeki, and since then, 47 straight kachi-koshi. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Morty 1,505 Posted January 24, 2015 What has been missed in the excitement of Hak's yusho record was the greatness of the Harumafuji / Kakuryu match. That was one of the best sumo bouts I have ever seen. Just a fabulous basho this time around:). 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mintofuji 18 Posted January 24, 2015 (edited) In the English commentary on , the commentators mention that video replay was introduced due to Futabayama's streak of 69 wins being broken due to an incorrect decision by the gyoji. I was under the impression that it was Taiho's streak of 45 wins that ended by a gyoji error, not Futabayama (Wikipedia, for example, gives this reference). Did the commentators get it wrong? Edited January 24, 2015 by Mintofuji Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specialweek 2 136 Posted January 24, 2015 Cant listen atm. Who were the announcers? No tv in those days. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,653 Posted January 24, 2015 Yes, it was the Taiho streak. Real-time video recording and replay technology wasn't anywhere near the required level back during Futabayama's streak anyway. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specialweek 2 136 Posted January 24, 2015 (edited) This is some guy doing his own blog. Not the official English commentary Edited January 24, 2015 by specialweek 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,653 Posted January 24, 2015 Good basho for Cowabunga Kawabata, just blasted out Sasakiyama for his 6th win. In this form he'll be in juryo before too long, I guess the back-to-back 3-4's woke him up to the fact that tsukedashi doesn't mean he'll be handed a sekitori spot (as his sumo often looked like). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mintofuji 18 Posted January 24, 2015 This is some guy doing his own blog. Not the official English commentary While the guy who posted the video does make his own comments, when he's not speaking you can hear the English commentary from the channel. The commentary I was referring to was definitely the English commentary. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gernobono 467 Posted January 24, 2015 (edited) green hawk down :-( one of my favourites tokushinho just pressed the down-button to makushita unfortunatelly i do not expect a quick return of "mr.nodowa" soon with all those young prospects in makushita and a sidenote: why did tamaasuka even care to climb the dohyo?....that bout of a already kk-rikshi against one looking for kk (hidenoumi) was just pathetic Edited January 24, 2015 by Gernobono Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CT3* 331 Posted January 24, 2015 I really hope Hakuhou didn't injure himself. He landed pretty hard at the end of that first bout with Kisenosato and seemed to be limping a bit after the rematch. Wouldn't be at all surprised to see him sporting a nasty bruise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specialweek 2 136 Posted January 24, 2015 This is some guy doing his own blog. Not the official English commentaryWhile the guy who posted the video does make his own comments, when he's not speaking you can hear the English commentary from the channel. The commentary I was referring to was definitely the English commentary. Right you are. Think he was meaning Taiho just got his numbers wrong. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masumasumasu 902 Posted January 24, 2015 Terunofuji vs. Ichinojo...a supreme mawashi battle. The o-toro of sumo, baby! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
I am the Yokozuna 194 Posted January 24, 2015 Great bout between two young Mongolian hopefuls. I just think that there are too similiar in their approach and lack variety which led to almost 5 min duration of their contest. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,874 Posted January 24, 2015 Eight 7-7 makuuchi rikishi for Day 15, and none of them are facing each other. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,653 Posted January 24, 2015 Eight 7-7 makuuchi rikishi for Day 15, and none of them are facing each other.A lot of what the current shimpan/banzuke committee does looks like it's being run by somebody who has slept through the last 10-15 years...all the bad habits from the "good old days" are making a comeback. 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites