Benevolance 2,534 Posted June 1, 2013 Thanks for linking those articles. Very interesting read. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,486 Posted June 8, 2013 Mark (his latest 15-0 record at the Natsu Basho his 25th to date) This does not read quite as intended, I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mukonoso 273 Posted June 10, 2013 Accidentally found one about Kotooshu from 2008 with a pic of his new son and his wife. http://www.novinite.com/view_news.php?id=138345 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,701 Posted June 10, 2013 Osunaarashi 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,701 Posted June 10, 2013 The Osunaarashi article apparently appeared in Japanese in the printed version of the Asahi Shimbun on June, 1st. It basically clears all my concerns from the Shinto rituals thread. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krindel 687 Posted June 10, 2013 The Osunaarashi article apparently appeared in Japanese in the printed version of the Asahi Shimbun on June, 1st. It basically clears all my concerns from the Shinto rituals thread. Well, like it was mentioned on that thread, all it takes to clear up the issue is someone asking him if he has an issue :-). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,701 Posted June 25, 2013 Kisenosato / new banzuke 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,088 Posted July 5, 2013 Mark and poopers Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,195 Posted July 6, 2013 (edited) Already the best of the ozeki by a country mile Kinenosato has only failed to score less than 10 — the prerequisite of any ozeki each basho — once in the past 12 basho ... Erm... Edit: That aside, the comparison of Osunaarashi to Kokkai is an interesting one. Nearly all of us here didn't get to see him as he rose through the lower divisions, but given his fighting style and burly appearance I can imagine he looked similarly impressive. Edited July 6, 2013 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,486 Posted July 6, 2013 There are of course others who would see the “other” yokozuna Harumafuji as another threat to Kisenosato. Yet, since his promotion on the back of consecutive 15-0 titles in Nagoya and Tokyo in July and September of 2012, Harumafuji has in large part failed to impress. ​ January 2013 - 15-0 Yusho impressed me a bit. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark.Buckton 68 Posted July 8, 2013 selective reading / quoting there Jeremy. ;-)​ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,259 Posted July 8, 2013 Already the best of the ozeki by a country mile Kinenosato has only failed to score less than 10 — the prerequisite of any ozeki each basho — once in the past 12 basho ... Erm... Edit: That aside, the comparison of Osunaarashi to Kokkai is an interesting one. Nearly all of us here didn't get to see him as he rose through the lower divisions, but given his fighting style and burly appearance I can imagine he looked similarly impressive. I agree. And I think it's silly from Mark to make the sound comparison to Kokkai and Aran and conclude that he is in for a tough basho. Just look at the excellent juryo scores of Kokkai and Aran (40-20 and 22-8). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kuroyama 715 Posted July 8, 2013 (edited) Already the best of the ozeki by a country mile Kinenosato has only failed to score less than 10 — the prerequisite of any ozeki each basho — once in the past 12 basho ...Erm... Over at Language Log they call this "misnegation" and are highly entertained by it. Edited July 8, 2013 by Kuroyama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,486 Posted July 8, 2013 (edited) selective reading / quoting there Jeremy. ;-)​ So let's quote a bit more from Buck Martin.... He did win the Hatsu Basho in January with a solid 15-0 record that included an excellent yorikiri victory over Hakuho, but winning yusho is what is expected of him every basho as a yokozuna. However, of four tournaments at rank to date, he has an incredibly poor overall win/loss record of 44-16. Despite that, I still remain impressed with the 15-0 yusho in January. I note that Hakuho (by the above definition) has also been a disappointment of late, as he only won 3 of the 7 past bashos (coincendatally just like the other current Yokozuna Harumafuji) - instead of the 7 expected of him as a Yokozuna. Edited July 9, 2013 by Jejima 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,195 Posted July 8, 2013 He's had one strong basho in four attempts. I've had my disagreements with Mark, but "has in large part failed to impress" is a perfectly reasonable summary for me. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark.Buckton 68 Posted July 9, 2013 Doitsoyama, did you ever see Kokkai and Aran as they were coming through the ranks? Numbers analysis is unrelated. If you read it again, you will see it means in his (Oosunaarashi) overall career when referring to Kokkai and Aran. Not only the juryo division. Jeremy, that childish name calling is ST, not SF. And, "3 of the past bashos" should read 25 of the past basho unless there is a word missing. no? ALTesque that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,259 Posted July 9, 2013 Doitsoyama, did you ever see Kokkai and Aran as they were coming through the ranks? Numbers analysis is unrelated. Sure I have. And I must say that Osunaarashi is looking much better than Kokkai to me who was very one dimensional. Aran was really good but two years older than Osunaarashi which is very important at this stage. While we are at that I'd also like to say that he can't compare with Baruto though. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,486 Posted July 9, 2013 Doitsoyama, did you ever see Kokkai and Aran as they were coming through the ranks? Numbers analysis is unrelated. If you read it again, you will see it means in his (Oosunaarashi) overall career when referring to Kokkai and Aran. Not only the juryo division. Jeremy, that childish name calling is ST, not SF. And, "3 of the past bashos" should read 25 of the past basho unless there is a word missing. no? ALTesque that. My name is Jezz (or Jejima), please use one of them when referring to me. (For some reason you have decided to call me 'Jeremy' against forum rules.) My quote should have read 3 of the past 7 bashos. The edit is now correct. Harumafuji did not impress me today. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark.Buckton 68 Posted July 9, 2013 (edited) apologies - I didn't know you had changed your name. I just remembered this: From now Jezz it is. ;) Moderator Notice quoted personal message removed Edited July 9, 2013 by Jakusotsu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
torquato 1,075 Posted July 9, 2013 Don't post personally sent messages publically! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark.Buckton 68 Posted July 9, 2013 Don't post personally sent messages publically! this message was posted publicly by the sender himself on the SML. (along with the response he received) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark.Buckton 68 Posted July 13, 2013 http://www.seattlepi.com/sports/article/Osunaarashi-brings-African-flavor-to-sumo-in-Japan-4661250.php AP piece on Oosunaarashi out a day or two ago. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark.Buckton 68 Posted July 16, 2013 November (out October) issue of Conde Nast Traveller in the UK and elsewhere will carry a piece mentioning (in part) sumo for those interested. So too will Der Spiegel - in German in September. Eyes out folks! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark.Buckton 68 Posted July 24, 2013 http://www.japantimes.co.jp/sports/2013/07/22/sumo/hakuho-moves-past-asashoryu-to-third-on-the-all-time-greatest-list/#.Ue-P7uCUDZs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
