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[Raishu 202]

I could not find a seperate thread (intai announcement) for this, so I will post it here:

 

According to the NSK's website, Sadanofuji has decided to end his active career and is now known as Nakamura Oyakata (on loan from Yoshikaze).

 

And for completion: Asasekiryu is now Nishikijima Oyakata (on loan from Toyonoshima)

[Kuroyama 715]

Sadanofuji's intai was noted when it happened in the basho talk thread, but it's surely worth a mention here too.

[Asashosakari 18,674]

While we're at it, a link back to the thread on Asasekiyu's intai:

Mainly for the discussion of the surprising development that he's supposedly owning the Nishikijima kabu, not borrowing it.

[Rocks 1,805]

13 minutes ago, Asashosakari said:

While we're at it, a link back to the thread on Asasekiyu's intai:

Mainly for the discussion of the surprising development that he's supposedly owning the Nishikijima kabu, not borrowing it.

Well that would explain why he was listed above  oyakata merely borrowing one. But what would posses Toyonoshima to give it up?

[Asashosakari 18,674]

3 hours ago, Rocks said:

But what would posses Toyonoshima to give it up?

My blind guess (if it has actually happened): He has come into possession of stablemate Tokitenku's Magaki kabu and prefers that one over Nishikijima.

[Kintamayama 44,275]

Ooshima Oyakata, ex-Kyokutenhou, will assume the Tomozuna name and will inherit the heya, as current Tomozuna Oyakata will be retiring soon, it was officially announced today. This will be the first time a Mongolian born rikishi will become an Oyakata, and the first time that a Mongolian born rikishi will inherit a name. "Till today's rijikai session, I really didn't fully comprehend the fact that I was inheriting a heya with a great tradition, but after it became official, I'm really nervous.." said the new heya owner. He joined sumo with Ooshima beya, but when it folded he moved to Tomozuna where he was a coach for the last two years after his retirement. So after only  two years , he now owns a heya. "I was in two heyas under two different Oyakatas. I'll take from them  what I see as the good things and  lead my deshi. I'd like there to be a friendly atmosphere at the keiko-ba and I'd like to have rikishi who people will support.." said ex-Kyokutenhou. He will be scouting for new recruits as well. "I'd like to get some advice from my elders and scour the land for prospects.." he summed.

[ryafuji 806]

Does that mean the current Tomozuna will be leaving completely and not taking on the five-year "consultant" role? That will also free up the Oshima kabu, of course.

Edited June 1, 2017 by ryafuji
correct length

[orandashoho 720]

The choice between reopening Oshima and staying with Tomozuna surely was a no-brainer. Taking the ex-Oshima rikishi out of Tomozuna would seriously affect everyone's training, and going to Oshima without them would necessitate a new start with newly scouted deshi, not to mention having to buy a suitable building (either the old Oshima building or a new one) and fitting it out again from scratch. 
Perhaps there are sentimental reasons to hesitate for a few seconds or so before making that decision, but this solution is infinitely better for everyone.

Go Tomozuna!!

Edited June 1, 2017 by orandashoho

[Asashosakari 18,674]

On 1.6.2017 at 16:23, ryafuji said:

Does that mean the current Tomozuna will be leaving completely and not taking on the five-year "consultant" role? That will also free up the Oshima kabu, of course.

The Kyokai has now announced that Tomozuna and Oshima will be switching their kabu effective June 11. I'm not sure if that's just a pro forma announcement to notify the public that ex-Kaiki will be the recognized owner of the Oshima share in his retirement, or if he's going to be using that name for re-employment purposes. The date is a bit odd, in any case, as it's ex-Kaiki's last day on the job so if he's retiring that should technically mean he'll be Oshima-oyakata for a single day.

[Akinomaki 39,585]

The news of Tomozuna's retirement conference mentioned that he'll chose to get reemployed.

[Fukurou 534]

On 6/1/2017 at 10:06, Kintamayama said:

Ooshima Oyakata, ex-Kyokutenhou, will assume the Tomozuna name and will inherit the heya, as current Tomozuna Oyakata will be retiring soon, it was officially announced today. This will be the first time a Mongolian born rikishi will become an Oyakata, and the first time that a Mongolian born rikishi will inherit a name.

Would you please clarify this? If ex-Kyokutenhou was already Ooshima Oyakata, then how does his becoming Tomozuna Oyakata make it the first time a Mongolian born rikishi becomes an Oyakata? He was already an Oyakata, wasn't he?

[Benihana 1,900]

21 minutes ago, Fukurou said:

Would you please clarify this? If ex-Kyokutenhou was already Ooshima Oyakata, then how does his becoming Tomozuna Oyakata make it the first time a Mongolian born rikishi becomes an Oyakata? He was already an Oyakata, wasn't he?

He is the first mongolian oyakata to head a heya.

[Fukurou 534]

4 hours ago, Benihana said:

He is the first mongolian oyakata to head a heya.

I never asked anything about heading a heya.  "This will be the first time a Mongolian born rikishi will become an Oyakata". He already was an Oyakata, so I asked for clarification of that point.

[Asashosakari 18,674]

1 hour ago, Fukurou said:

I never asked anything about heading a heya.  "This will be the first time a Mongolian born rikishi will become an Oyakata". He already was an Oyakata, so I asked for clarification of that point.

And Benihana provided you with that clarification..... Kinta wrote "first oyakata", but meant "first shisho".

[Kintamayama 44,275]

1 hour ago, Fukurou said:

I never asked anything about heading a heya.  "This will be the first time a Mongolian born rikishi will become an Oyakata". He already was an Oyakata, so I asked for clarification of that point.

My bad. First shisho. First head of a heya. Honest mistake.

[Fukurou 534]

19 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

My bad. First shisho. First head of a heya. Honest mistake.

Yep, honest mistake. Thanks for the clarification and for all you do here

[Akinomaki 39,585]

Today was the party of ex-Kyokutenho taking on the name of Tomozuna, about 800 guests in a hotel in Tokyo. He also became shisho of Tomozuna-beya today. http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20170611/sum17061120110006-n1.html

left to right: Oshima, Hakuho, Tomozuna

[rhyen 1,801]

wow, and Hakuho was planting rice paddies earlier in the day in Hokkaido. 

[Akinomaki 39,585]

1 hour ago, rhyen said:

wow, and Hakuho was planting rice paddies earlier in the day in Hokkaido. 

Both today's news, but the rice articles were about yesterday.

[Benihana 1,900]

On 25.10.2016 at 15:29, Akinomaki said:

So Aminishiki has no hope to really recover from that injury and needs the Ajigawa myoseki soon - and the newly wed gets some more time (assuming he still only has his kabu on loan).

I'm so glad, Aminishiki still didn't join the lizard people, but what are his plans when the inevitable happens?

[Akinomaki 39,585]

Takekuma-oyakata, who turns 65 in September, has already applied to get reemployed till age 70. http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20170722/sum17072216370008-n1.html

[Asashosakari 18,674]

I wonder how many more will do that before the rikishi-kai finally starts protesting about half a generation of deserving rikishi being shut out of kabu. 

[rhyen 1,801]

58 minutes ago, Asashosakari said:

I wonder how many more will do that before the rikishi-kai finally starts protesting about half a generation of deserving rikishi being shut out of kabu. 

Maybe they are willing to wait 5 more years to get it at rock bottom prices?

[Asashosakari 18,674]

I just noticed that ex-Terao getting replaced as shimpan for Nagoya apparently wasn't a short-notice thing. They actually removed him from the shimpan department listing on the Kyokai site, and what's more, they already made that change two weeks before announcing it that he wouldn't be judging in Nagoya. (It was a stealth change - no update of the date counter on the page. And I guess also no press release to the media, or they would have reported on it earlier.)

Actually, I totally confused myself today trying to backtrack through the shimpan changes since the latest big movements (April 2016). Did we ever mention that Nakagawa ended up joining the group, for instance? Near as I can tell he replaced Kasugayama, but the originally announced replacement for him was Kiriyama... I sense the need for a new summary thread, I think, if only to get myself unstuck here.

Edited August 23, 2017 by Asashosakari

[Yubinhaad 11,506]

On ‎23‎/‎08‎/‎2017 at 19:55, Asashosakari said:

Actually, I totally confused myself today trying to backtrack through the shimpan changes since the latest big movements (April 2016). Did we ever mention that Nakagawa ended up joining the group, for instance? Near as I can tell he replaced Kasugayama, but the originally announced replacement for him was Kiriyama... I sense the need for a new summary thread, I think, if only to get myself unstuck here.

Kiriyama replacing Kasugayama was mentioned in the general turmoil thread surrounding that heya, but I can't recall any mention of Nakagawa replacing Kiriyama.

Anyway, does that suggest that Nakagawa is in Isegahama ichimon then, filling the spot held by Kiriyama and Kasugayama?

Elsewhere, I notice that Nakadachi-oyakata (former Komusubi Oginishiki) is part of the lifestyle guidance department, having previously been a member of the Haru basho organising team. Maybe he's being prepped to replace Kagamiyama as director of that department at some point? All the other members are the over-65 re-employed oyakata. Not sure exactly when that change was made but I guess after the Haru basho - Nakagawa was also on that team, so perhaps effective at the same time as his move to shimpan.