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[Orion 431]

Former Komusubi Haguroiwa, Ikazuchi-oyakata, reached the mandatory retirement age of 65 on the 30th of June.

His most famous moment came in the 1969 Haru basho when, fighting under his family name Toda, he defeated Taiho on Day 2. The loss ended Taiho's 45-bout winning streak, the longest of his career, but in fact it should not have been called as a loss at all and the bout led to the introduction of video replays to prevent similar controversies.

I had it on very good authority (Dewanishiki, who after his retirement was a highly respected commentator for many years) that the rikishi had already been demanding the video replay and it was ready for lift-off; the false Toda win was the stimulus that actually got it off the ground.

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[Kintamayama 46,753]

His most famous moment came in the 1969 Haru basho when, fighting under his family name Toda,

Thank you, Toda.

[Asashosakari 20,135]

Ex-Kirinishiki has changed from Asakayama (Kaio's kabu) to the recently vacated Ikazuchi share per July 14.

[Pikenoyama 27]

Ex-Kirinishiki has changed from Asakayama (Kaio's kabu) to the recently vacated Ikazuchi share per July 14.

Thanks for the info. Is he still renting it?

[shumitto 418]

Thanks for the info. Is he still renting it?

The Jiji article doesn't state it clearly, but I assume it's still rented because it's listed below Zaonishiki in the Kyokai website.

[Pikenoyama 27]

... but I assume it's still rented because it's listed below Zaonishiki in the Kyokai website.

Thank you, the sumoreference agrees with you (Nodding yes...) .

[Ruziklao 34]

Former Komusubi Haguroiwa, Ikazuchi-oyakata, reached the mandatory retirement age of 65 on the 30th of June.

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According to an Asashosakari post in 2007, Haguroiwa and Futagodake held the record for the most head-to-head bouts between Maegashira rikishi, 33 bouts. Don't know if that record still stands?

It seems so according to this (hopefully correct) database query. It even looks like the record is safe for the foreseeable future.

[Pikenoyama 27]

It is time to revitalize this evergreen topic (Clapping wildly...) . As was published by Muhomatsu as well as discussed into more detail in this topic, the Kyokai has announced that Katsunoura Oyakata (former Kitakachidoki) will be assuming the name Isenoumi and taking over the stable as of the 25th September 2011. The current Isenoumi Oyakata is to turn 65 on the 26th.

BTW who is current owner of the Katsunoura kabu? The old Isenoumi moto-Fujinokawa?

Edited September 26, 2011 by Pikenoyama

[Asashosakari 20,135]

BTW who is current owner of the Katsunoura kabu? The old Isenoumi moto-Fujinokawa?

Should be, unless we hear of a sale being approved when the directors next meet on Wednesday. To be clear: I'm not saying I've actually heard anything, just that it's conceivable that somebody was already waiting for the share to become available for purchase, not just loan. Loan's more likely of course. (I don't expect the share to remain unused for long anyway, not with the Kakizoe farewell tour in progress and Takamisakari potentially sending Musashimaru on kabu search soon. And what the heck is up with Tamanoshima?)

I should add that supposedly Fujinokawa is actually the owner of both shares, the behind-the-scenes timeline being something like this: The Katsunoura kabu was owned by Tagaryu at one point, until he switched it with the Kagamiyama name to take over the stable upon the death of his shisho ex-yokozuna Kashiwado. That share was allegedly owned by Fujinokawa through all the years Kashiwado used it, so through the switch he came to own Katsunoura instead, later "selling" it to his own deshi Kitakachidoki during the brief period when kabu-borrowing was officially disallowed. It's of course possible that it was properly sold to Kitakachidoki at some later point. Grain of salt about the whole matter, as usual.

Edited September 27, 2011 by Asashosakari

[Kintamayama 46,753]

Ooyama Oyakata (ex-Sekiwake Daihi) has taken his things and moved from Takasago to Azumazeki.

[Yubinhaad 11,927]

Ooyama Oyakata (ex-Sekiwake Daihi) has taken his things and moved from Takasago to Azumazeki.

He "only" reached Maegashira 2.

I wonder why this happened. It can't be to do with the upcoming elections, as both heya are part of Takasago-ichimon. Unless Azumazeki is going to shake things up!

Also, how come he's displayed as Onobori on the database's kabu pages? His last shikona was Daihi, and the Kyokai displays him as such.

[yorikiried by fate 2,038]

Also, how come he's displayed as Onobori on the database's kabu pages? His last shikona was Daihi, and the Kyokai displays him as such.

Shikona at the time of career high. Doitsuyama once explained it in a different context.

[Kintamayama 46,753]

Ooyama Oyakata (ex-Sekiwake Daihi) has taken his things and moved from Takasago to Azumazeki.

He "only" reached Maegashira 2.

Indeed, my mistake.

[Yubinhaad 11,927]

Also, how come he's displayed as Onobori on the database's kabu pages? His last shikona was Daihi, and the Kyokai displays him as such.

Shikona at the time of career high. Doitsuyama once explained it in a different context.

Yes of course, I should've remembered that, chiefly because I was the one asking the question then too. (Applauding...) Few too many chocolate liqueurs.

Edited December 28, 2011 by Yubinhaad

[Kuroyama 715]

Few too many chocolate liqueurs.

Either that, or nowhere near enough. Time to experiment!

[Fukurou 534]

With Tochinonada becoming Takenawa-oyakata, are there any legitimate scenarios where ex-Yotsukasa is able to gain use of a different kabu so he can stay?

Edited January 22, 2012 by Fukurou

[Raishu 215]

With Tochinonada becoming Takenawa-oyakata, are there any legitimate scenarios where ex-Yotsukasa is able to gain use of a different kabu so he can stay?

Well, he might have had the chance to hang on as Katsunoura (only vacant kabu atm).

But I guess he sees his future in a job outside of the NSK, so he opted to leave.

[Fukurou 534]

But I guess he sees his future in a job outside of the NSK, so he opted to leave.

Oh, I misunderstood the situation! I thought he was leaving against his will due to lack of kabu, not leaving due to lack of kabu because he has other plans.

[Raishu 215]

Oh, I misunderstood the situation! I thought he was leaving against his will due to lack of kabu, not leaving due to lack of kabu because he has other plans.

Well, it's pure guessing on my part.

But I assume that a former Rikishi might be able to work out a deal with a retired Oyakata, in case the loaner is in desperate need for a new loan/share.

Anyways, best of luck to both the old and new Takenawa! :-S

[Kintamayama 46,753]

Ikazuchi Oyakata (former Kirinishiki) has switched to Katsunoura today. The Katsunoura name was vacant and is owned by the former Isenoumi (ex-Fujinokawa) who retired last September.

[Kintamayama 46,753]

Today's deal: Sendagawa Oyakata (ex-Kinkaiyama) has switched to Tagonoura.

[Kintamayama 46,753]

Oshiogawa Oyakata (ex-Touki) has switched to the Sendagawa name.

[Asashosakari 20,135]

Hmm, that's unexpected...seems like a downgrade in safety to me.

[Mark.Buckton 68]

Hmm, that's unexpected...seems like a downgrade in safety to me.

not as though he has a lot of choice.

[Yubinhaad 11,927]

Hmm, that's unexpected...seems like a downgrade in safety to me.

Agreed, although Takekaze will be 33 in a few months he seems to be doing fine, so a sudden intai from him is unlikely.

I wonder where the Sendagawa toshiyori will end up. It's owned by the former renegade Maenoyama, and surely he doesn't have any ichimon loyalties when it comes to selling his stock. He doesn't have to sell it until March 2013 at the latest, but then with the Kyokai buy-back thing still possible he might sell it sooner rather than later.