Nagoya Yusho Predictions?

[Churaumi 749]

2 hours ago, Mightyduck said:

Takaysu to fall short of ozeki repromotion. 

That would require him to keep his head in the game for at least 13 days, so I agree.

I supplement my predictions with this one: the yusho winner will have no more than 13 wins. It's going to be a hotly contested basho.

[Mightyduck 67]

1 hour ago, Churaumi said:

That would require him to keep his head in the game for at least 13 days, so I agree.

I supplement my predictions with this one: the yusho winner will have no more than 13 wins. It's going to be a hotly contested basho.

Yes, I think you are right, it's likely to be 13 at most. Teru is likely to drop a couple, a couple of guys like Takaysu and Shimanoumi have good head to heads against him, and I don't think any of the other sanyaku are good enough to go higher than 13. 

 

Part of me would love to see Hakuho go 15-0 lead a collective clap, say "Dad's home" and mic drop walk off though......

[Churaumi 749]

5 hours ago, Mightyduck said:

Yes, I think you are right, it's likely to be 13 at most. Teru is likely to drop a couple, a couple of guys like Takaysu and Shimanoumi have good head to heads against him, and I don't think any of the other sanyaku are good enough to go higher than 13. 

 

Part of me would love to see Hakuho go 15-0 lead a collective clap, say "Dad's home" and mic drop walk off though......

If Hakuho goes 15-0, the 'Murkah in me says he's earned it. The parts of me that know better say he should be thankful he can still walk and leave it at that.

[Hakuhonofan 334]

Y:  Hakuho

JY: Terunofuji 

[Sue 530]

I predict that Asanoyama will not save himself from being kadoban.

[Kaminariyuki 519]

1 hour ago, Sue said:

I predict that Asanoyama will not save himself from being kadoban.

I'll bet you're on that one. So, I reckon you don't expect him to yusho. This basho look interesting for quite a few rikishi but maybe not so much for Asanoyama. 

[Tigerboy1966 1,539]

Yusho: Terunofuji

Jun-yusho: Takakeisho

Hakuho will not complete the basho. I'm going to guess he goes kyujo after day 10, ending with 8-3-4.

[just_some_guy 294]

4 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

Yusho: Terunofuji

Jun-yusho: Takakeisho

Hakuho will not complete the basho. I'm going to guess he goes kyujo after day 10, ending with 8-3-4. 

I'll echo this prediction, but I expect Hakuho to be out before day 5 if he enters at all.

[Seiyashi 4,109]

I think Hakuho will force himself to stay in, but we'll hear about whatever horrific injury he's had to suffer through to complete the basho.

[Kishinoyama 603]

5 hours ago, Seiyashi said:

....but we'll hear about whatever horrific injury he's had to suffer through to complete the basho.

.....or that his knee had never completely healed from the surgery. 

[Takatakayamayama 1]

On 16/06/2021 at 14:58, Eikokurai said:

Ura. 

I need to change my pants.

[orandashoho 720]

Y -- Terunofuju

JY -- Hakuho, Takakeisho

[Sue 530]

TnoF Y and TK JY is the obvious thing to happen. Ozumo is full of surprises, especially in a transitional period like this one, so I'd be surprised if the unsurprising thing were to happen. I predict that at least one of the pair is going to finish with neither a Y nor a JY, possibly both.

(I think Terunofuji is queued up for his moment of destiny, but he could still easily get hurt.)

Edited June 19, 2021 by Sue

[Kaminariyuki 519]

On 19/06/2021 at 10:47, Sue said:

TnoF Y and TK JY is the obvious thing to happen. Ozumo is full of surprises, especially in a transitional period like this one, so I'd be surprised if the unsurprising thing were to happen. I predict that at least one of the pair is going to finish with neither a Y nor a JY, possibly both.

(I think Terunofuji is queued up for his moment of destiny, but he could still easily get hurt.)

This is pretty much my own thinking. Only two weeks to the basho!

[junsan 201]

Terunofuji and Hakuho playoff.

[Ichimawashi 573]

It comes down to a final match between Hakuho and Terunofuji, but in an unprecedented occurrence one will be the survivor as five rikishi enter the final day leading at just 10-4.  Parity and randomness has invaded the banzuke, with many upsets followed immediately by the upsetter being upset by  someone much lower, leading to the crazy ending, where Hakuho and Terunofuji are scheduled to meet in the final match and the three others (Ichinojo, Shodai, and Ura) at 10-4 all lose to heighten the suspense and kill any possible playoff.  Along with the unpredictability of the matches, poor ventilation and a second week heat wave leads to another unprecedented situation with the four top gyoji ordered to rest after some curious decisions are revealed to be symptoms of heat exhaustion.  The only survivor among the top rank is Konosuke, who officiates in his usual slot and then returns for the final four matches on each of the last four days as the intervening matches are done by a rotating group of Makuuchi gyoji looking for promotion as the reports on the overheated sanyaku gyoji get more serious day by day.  The shortage of gyoji is so serious that yobidashi Kunio steps in to officiate a few Jonokuchi matches on the final day, pointing the gunbai at Shonanzakura’s opponent before tachiai contact and still getting it right as the lovable loser is felled by a stern stare from his opponent like a footballer looking for a penalty.

In the finale, after several matta and ignored te wo tsuite warnings, both rikishi rise for the tachiai … but there is no actual contact.  Konosuke yells “Hakkeyoi!” but neither engages, as two of Hakuho’s toes (thankfully, on the same foot) have nearly switched places and in trying to shake off the injury he has unraveled his knee into an impossible angle.  Terunofuji has suffered some form of sudden knee pain as well and the affected leg is swinging like a pendulum.  Both hop toward the other and lean in and nothing happens for six minutes except groans of agony by those close enough to see what has taken place.  Even Konosuke looks away in horror and affixes a glare on the head judge.  Finally the head judge calls it off and it takes twelve minutes for a doctor to arrive and another five for him to decide who to attend to first.  By this time a second doctor has arrived from the stands but is blocked by yobidashi because she is female.  At this point, NHK discovers that it is six o’clock and goes off the air without warning.  Abema TV experiences a sudden denial of service attack later found to emanate from Russian cyber criminals.  News reports explain that the building was evacuated at this point and nobody ever finds out how two large men managed to get off the dohyo with only one working leg each.  Weeks go by with no official announcement of a yusho winner as the Olympics and Paralympics take centre stage (with no sumo presence in the opening or closing ceremonies of either event).

Media speculation is all over the map, exploding into scandal once the Olympics and Paralymics end.  Rikishi are interviewed but are careful to say no comment as ordered, some making it clear by their tone that such orders have been issued but not answering further.  Finally someone tracks down Asanoyama, who has retreated to a 16th-century Shinto temple in the countryside to contemplate his future.  He carefully sits on a park bench and motions the reporter over and says “listen, this is what I heard.  They have nobody who is unbiased to make a decision on how to resolve this, so they are going out of Japan.  To keep things fair they have hired an American company currently doing something in Arizona, called Cyber Ninjas.”

His suspension is promptly doubled to twelve basho.  Shonanzakura tells a friend (who tells a reporter) he cannot wait to face him.

Finally, three and a half weeks before Aki, an announcement that Day 1 will commence with a five-man ketteisen before Jonokuchi, minus any qualifying rikishi choosing not to compete.  The incomplete match has been scored as a double kyujo leaving five rikishi tied at 10 wins, and the banzuke has been prepared without reference to a yusho winner.  Hakuho immediately announces online that he will be competing, before the press conference actually ends.  The second portion of the press conference annnouces that yusho-yusho-tied yusho with the last two as Ozeki is enough for a promotion to Yokozuna, but Terunofuji has decided to retire while he can still hop and has some hope of walking at some point in the future.

Ichinojo decides not to compete, claiming further back injury.  Nobody is surprised.

A news crew is allowed inside Miyagino beya and films Hakuho training hard and somehow showing no sign of injury, and even acting as gyoji for a joke match between 200cm tall Hokuseiho and tiny Enho, and when Enho’s brave tachiai launches him through Hokuseiho’s legs and out of the dohyo without so much as a touch, Hakuho points to Hokuseiho as the winner of “the first-ever henka that is neither left nor right!”  Everyone laughs, including the Yokozuna, so hard that he injures his lungs and announces his intai a few days later.

Shodai trains well but registers a fever of 42.3 Celsius degrees (108 Fahrenheit) on Day 1 and is out, leaving Ura as the default yusho winner.  In the basho he goes 2-13 and is demoted back to Juryo.

Edited June 22, 2021 by Ichimawashi

[Kaminariyuki 519]

It is sometimes difficult to tell the difference between satire and prognostication, in sumo or on the forum. I think at least a few folks miss Yamanashi's regular pre-basho thread? Shinobi Steve did it back in January but Yamanashi has abstained from encouraging the literary whimsical in 2021, ...so far.

I don't see that there was a call for Ridiculous Predictions in March but my netizen searching skills aren't at the SF standard.

Edited June 22, 2021 by Kaminariyuki
typos

[Yamanashi 3,988]

4 hours ago, Kaminariyuki said:

It is sometimes difficult to tell the difference between satire and prognostication, in sumo or on the forum. I think at least a few folks miss Yamanashi's regular pre-basho thread? Shinobi Steve did it back in January but Yamanashi has abstained from encouraging the literary whimsical in 2021, ...so far.

I don't see that there was a call for Ridiculous Predictions ..." in March but my netizen searching skills aren't at the SF standard.

It appears @Ichimawashi has produced the Ridiculous Predictions thread in digest form.

[Kaminariyuki 519]

22 minutes ago, Yamanashi said:

It appears @Ichimawashi has produced the Ridiculous Predictions thread in digest form.

Indeed, I think they might have been missing Ridiculous Predictions, but I reckon ridiculous might easily fit into the topic of the coming basho. We shall see.

[Ichimawashi 573]

13 hours ago, Kaminariyuki said:

It is sometimes difficult to tell the difference between satire and prognostication.

Perhaps this may help.  When specific items are added to a carefully-prepared broth in a traditional way, the final result is ramen of the finest quality, at the highest levels a very fine art.  When someone boils water in a pot and chooses things to add because they are available and might improve the final result, that’s stew: it’ll keep you from going hungry and might be rather tasty, but there’s not usually a lot of art going in or coming out.  I am under no illusion that what I wrote in about a half hour is ramen.  But if someone enjoyed my stew, I am satisfied.  :)

[Kaminariyuki 519]

On 15/06/2021 at 11:19, Churaumi said:

Yusho - Terunofuji

Jun-yusho - Takakeisho

Bonus predictions: Takayasu does well until day 11, Hakuho does well enough not to be forced to retire, Enho makekoshi in a big way, Ikioi retires

OK, first person with a partially correct prediction before the basho even begins!

Several folks have called for a Hakuho-Terunofuji showdown, particularly interesting with Terunofuji's recent interview (posted by Kintamayama). Even though I wnt silly wild with my prediction, I'd love to see this matchup on the final weekend.

[Benevolance 2,519]

I'd love to see it, too, because it means that Hakuho made it through a whole basho. 

[Washuyama 648]

On 15/06/2021 at 18:43, Washuyama said:

Yusho: Hakuho - 15-0 - Goin' out with a BANG!

Jun-Yusho:  Terunofuji - 13-2 

I just wanted to bring this up now in case it's not entirely accurate after senshuraku.

[code_number3 709]

On 16/06/2021 at 23:07, Mightyduck said:

Yusho - Terunofuji

Jun-yusho - Hakuho

For a perfect changing of the guard.

Takaysu to fall short of ozeki repromotion. 

Shodai to make-koshi

 

 

 

 

This might be happened.

[Mightyduck 67]

59 minutes ago, code_number3 said:

This might be happened.

It's looking possible, although Hakuho has looked much better than I expected. I think he is perhaps favourite to win now. I just hope the match lives up to all our expectations!