Natsu basho 2019 discussions [SPOILERS]

[Naganoyama 5,841]

I wonder whether Onomatsu is in poor health. I don't think he used to be so confused.

Edited May 31, 2019 by Naganoyama

[robnplunder 974]

2 hours ago, Rainoyama said:

He probably read about people laughing about that and actually made a point to clearly mention east and west in another mono-i (Abi - Meisei day 14) but given the absence of mistake and time he took between each word I believe he was repeating what the voice in his hear was telling him to say...

I feel terrible for him.  It must be infuriating to him as well.   

[Kintamayama 44,347]

11 hours ago, Rainoyama said:

Article from Nikkan.  The yokozuna delibaration committee actually complained about something that everybody can actually agree on this time, they asked head judge Oonomatsu to be more precise and accurate during his explanations to the crowd after a monoi.

"It's truly my fault for lacking training" reflected Oonomatsu

Why the hell is he paid to be head judge then ?...

https://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/201905300000115.html

 

I'm guessing stage fright.  I'm pretty sure he's quite coherent in his everyday  dealings. Some people, otherwise very coherent, bottle up when asked to speak in public. Now, why on earth was he chosen to become head shinpan with all that is called for in this position, that is another question. I remember Furiwake getting a shot at head shinpan and the resulting fiasco, but that's a different story entirely.

[Amamaniac 2,078]

53 minutes ago, Kintamayama said:

I'm guessing stage fright.  I'm pretty sure he's quite coherent in his everyday  dealings. Some people, otherwise very coherent, bottle up when asked to speak in public. Now, why on earth was he chosen to become head shinpan with all that is called for in this position, that is another question. I remember Furiwake getting a shot at head shinpan and the resulting fiasco, but that's a different story entirely.

Could it have anything to do with the politics surrounding the dissolution of the Takanohana Ichimon?  If I remember correctly, Onomatsu oyakata was one of the first defectors, and his promotion to head shimpan came around the same time.  

Edited May 31, 2019 by Amamaniac

[Rainoyama 1,157]

41 minutes ago, Kintamayama said:

I'm guessing stage fright.  I'm pretty sure he's quite coherent in his everyday  dealings. Some people, otherwise very coherent, bottle up when asked to speak in public. Now, why on earth was he chosen to become head shinpan with all that is called for in this position, that is another question. I remember Furiwake getting a shot at head shinpan and the resulting fiasco, but that's a different story entirely.

I agree he seems to realize when be is lost  and looks more scared than anything else. Sometimes he even looks like he is about to break down in tears. He messed up many times before so I guess he grew even more scared to speak with so many eyes on him.

[Getayukata 119]

On 30/05/2019 at 02:19, sekitori said:

To guess how many tournaments Hakuho will win before he retires is a game we probably all play. But it's really nothing more than conjecture. He could possibly win one or two more. He also may not win any more yushos at all--but even so, 42 is a rather nice number with which to finish a career.

Here is an interesting aside, which not everyone might know. Hakuho and Douglas Adams (he who gave us 42 as the answer to the meaning of Life, the Universe, and everything) share the same birthday - March 11th. And I feel honoured to share it with two such illustrious persons too!

Getayukata

Edited May 31, 2019 by Jakusotsu
quote fixed

[Senkoho 552]

5 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

I remember Furiwake getting a shot at head shinpan and the resulting fiasco, but that's a different story entirely.

What happened? I don't remember that story. 

[Tsuchinoninjin 1,244]

6 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

I'm guessing stage fright.  I'm pretty sure he's quite coherent in his everyday  dealings. Some people, otherwise very coherent, bottle up when asked to speak in public. Now, why on earth was he chosen to become head shinpan with all that is called for in this position, that is another question. I remember Furiwake getting a shot at head shinpan and the resulting fiasco, but that's a different story entirely.

It's also pretty hard to do public announcements with some speaking in your ear and the substantial delay from the PA if you're not used to it. How many times per basho he actually has to explain something? Maybe just have him sit in an empty kokugikan reading iroha for a while or something.

[Kintamayama 44,347]

5 minutes ago, Tsuchinoninjin said:

It's also pretty hard to do public announcements with some speaking in your ear and the substantial delay from the PA if you're not used to it. How many times per basho he actually has to explain something? Maybe just have him sit in an empty kokugikan reading iroha for a while or something.

All the others do it pretty well under the same terms..

[Kintamayama 44,347]

52 minutes ago, Senkoho said:

What happened? I don't remember that story. 

He couldn't piece together two words and the crowd, including the other shimpants, were rolling over laughing. Should be a thread here somewhere.

[sahaven111 172]

Hate to sound ignorant, and it's a bit , but who's Orora?

[Asojima 2,870]

9 minutes ago, sahaven111 said:

 who's Orora?

 

[sahaven111 172]

5 minutes ago, Asojima said:

 

jeez

[Sue 481]

56 minutes ago, sahaven111 said:

Hate to sound ignorant, and it's a bit , but who's Orora?

The biggest name in sumo.

[Sue 481]

11 hours ago, Naganoyama said:

I wonder whether Onomatsu is in poor health. I don't think he used to be so confused.

You don't have to be ill to have poor communications skills. Work in the tech industry for a few months if you don't believe me.

[Naganoyama 5,841]

3 hours ago, Sue said:

You don't have to be ill to have poor communications skills. Work in the tech industry for a few months if you don't believe me.

Agreed. Some of my best friends are techies.

 

[Benihana 1,901]

We don't have poor communication skills. We communicate on a level you analog people just don't understand 

[lackmaker 431]

Well that sounds like poor communication skills to me.

[Benihana 1,901]

Sounds like evolution to me.

[Yamanashi 3,723]

For next basho, the game "Guess Hokotofuji's Aite" will be replaced by "Guess Benihana's profession".

[lackmaker 431]

Communications director

[robnplunder 974]

4 hours ago, Yamanashi said:

For next basho, the game "Guess Hokotofuji's Aite" will be replaced by "Guess Benihana's profession".

Not a Teppanyaki owner?

 

Some afterthought, tongue in cheek:

• The lone spectator who threw a zabuton at you-know-who on 15th day deserves a Kanto-sho.   
• Even a bad basho has some drama of its own.  
• Shimpans nearly stole the show.
• Is there any techie among us who can hack Eikokurai computer so that he can consistently watch  basho from the world's largest communist nation?  

[Eikokurai 3,433]

4 hours ago, robnplunder said:

Not a Teppanyaki owner?

 

Some afterthought, tongue in cheek:

• The lone spectator who threw a zabuton at you-know-who on 15th day deserves a Kanto-sho.   
• Even a bad basho has some drama of its own.  
• Shimpans nearly stole the show.
• Is there any techie among us who can hack Eikokurai computer so that he can consistently watch  basho from the world's largest communist nation?  

Haha. Thank you for your concern, but you needn’t worry. I’m starting a new job soon so I doubt next time I’ll be able to watch live anyway. Someone always downloads one of the digest videos from YouTube and shares it on one of China’s equivalent websites, so I’m generally able to follow it just fine. I only hope whoever it is that’s doing that stays interested in sumo for as long as I do! They’re the lifeline for the small community of Chinese sumo fans. :)

Edited June 1, 2019 by Eikokurai

[WAKATAKE 2,631]

So to give everybody your sumo Top 10 updates:

- While not specifically a record, Asanoyama now is the tenth active rikishi in sumo to have a yusho to his name
- Asanoyama's win gives 3rd place Takasago stable its' 46th yusho, moving it up 2 over Miyagino stable
- Kakuryu finished with his 7th jun-yusho, tying in second place with Goeido for active jun-yusho rankings
- Asanoyama is the first Sandanme tsukedashi to win the makuuchi yusho, having done it in 20 basho
- Aminishiki now has 907 career wins, 7th place Wakanosato has 914
- Career wins watch with 700+ wins: Hakuho (1120), Aminishiki (907), Kotoshogiku (784), Kakuryu (754)
- Makuuchi wins watch with 600+ wins: Hakuho (1026), Aminishiki (678), Kotoshogiku (675), Kakuryu (614) 10th place is Kyokutenho at 697
- Roga's 14 match win streak from pro debut ended on day 1 of Natsu 2019
- Shiraishi and Kawabuchi started streaks from pro debut and currently are at 7
- Aminishiki moves past Terao to 3rd place with 1803 career matches. 2nd place is Kyokutenho at 1870
- Kotoshogiku moves past Kirinji to 9th place with 1231 makuuchi matches. 8th place is Takekaze with 1257
- Hakuho ties Kotonowaka the Elder for 7th place with his 90th basho in makuuchi. 6th place is Akinoshima with 91
- Kotoshogiku will tie Takekaze for 10th place with 86 basho if he is on the banzuke in Nagoya
- Aminishiki competed in his 116th basho as a sekitori. He will tie Kaio for 1st place if he is ranked in Juryo for Nagoya
- Hanakaze competed in his 199th basho as a sumo rikishi, extending the all time record
- Takakeisho's promotion to ozeki this basho made him the 6th fastest rise from pro debut at 28 basho
- Mitakeumi competed in his 14th consecutive sanyaku basho with some banzuke luck. Seeing as he finished with KK this basho, he will be in sanyaku for a 15th consecutive basho in Nagoya and will move in sole 2nd place. The record is held by Wakanosato at 19
- Takakeisho is the 9th youngest ozeki promotion in the six basho per year era at 22 years, 7 months and 22 days. This is 14 days behind his former stablemaster, Takanohana II who clinched promotion at 22 years, 7 months and 8 days

[Gospodin 187]

On 31/05/2019 at 14:11, Getayukata said:

Here is an interesting aside, which not everyone might know. Hakuho and Douglas Adams (he who gave us 42 as the answer to the meaning of Life, the Universe, and everything) share the same birthday - March 11th. And I feel honoured to share it with two such illustrious persons too!

Getayukata

If I´m not mistaken, 42 is considered as a very unlucky number in Japan (floors/rooms being skipped, etc).