Asashosakari 19,943 Posted November 24, 2024 Quite the deceleration for erstwhile 14-0 Shimizuumi. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ack! 486 Posted November 26, 2024 On 24/11/2024 at 14:41, Asashosakari said: Quite the deceleration for erstwhile 14-0 Shimizuumi. Indeed! I had read that competition in sandanme is quite a large step up from jonidan, and if that is the case, this is the perfect illustration of that fact. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ack! 486 Posted December 29, 2024 Hatsu 2025 starting lineup: O2w Onosato: 10 KK, 99-35, 2x M yusho J5w Aonishiki: 7 KK, 48-9, Jd, Jk yusho Ms3w Kusano: 4 KK, 20-8 Ms8e Matsui: 5 KK, 22-12-1 Ms8w Ishizaki: 3 KK, 16-5 Ms17e Mita: 2 KK, 11-3 Ms17w Okaryu: 4 KK, 22-6 Ms19w Inami: 5 KK, 27-8 Ms28e Seihakuho: 4 KK, 24-4, Jd yusho Sd3e Shimizuumi: 3 KK, 18-3, Jk, Jd yusho Sd8w Noda: 4 KK, 21-7 Sd46e Imamura: 4 KK, 18-10 Sd30e Karino: 4 KK, 20-8-7* (*0-0-7 in first basho) Sd60e Goseizan: 2 KK, 12-0-2 Jd8e Furuta: 2 KK, 10-4 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ack! 486 Posted January 26 Hatsu 2025, Senshuraku (Final) No newbies this go-round O2w Onosato: 10-5, 11 KK, 109-40, 2x M yusho J5w Aonishiki: 12-3, 8 KK, 60-12, Jd, Jk yusho Ms3w Kusano: 4-3, 5 KK, 24-11 Ms8e Matsui: 2-5, 5 KK, 24-17-1 Ms8w Ishizaki: 6-1, 4 KK, 22-6 Ms17e Mita: 6-1, 3 KK, 17-4 Ms17w Okaryu: 4-3, 5 KK, 26-9 Ms19w Inami: 4-3, 6 KK, 31-11 Ms28e Seihakuho: 2-5, 4 KK, 26-9, Jd yusho Sd3e Shimizuumi: 4-3, 4 KK, 22-6, Jk, Jd yusho Sd8w Noda: 6-1, 5 KK, 27-8 Sd46e Imamura: 3-4, 4 KK, 21-14 Sd30e Karino: 3-2-2, 4 KK, 23-10-9* (*0-0-7 in first basho) Sd60e Goseizan: 6-1, 3 KK, 18-1-2 Jd8e Furuta: 6-1, 3 KK, 16-5 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DonKordylone 9 Posted January 27 St. Hakuho didn’t make it :( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 6,188 Posted January 27 4 minutes ago, DonKordylone said: St. Hakuho didn’t make it :( I've watched some of his bouts. There was nothing sacred about his sumo. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ack! 486 Posted March 3 Haru 2025 starting lineup: O1e Onosato: 11 KK, 109-40, 2x M yusho M15e Aonishiki: 8 KK, 60-12, Jd, Jk yusho J14w Kusano: 5 KK, 24-11 Ms1w Ishizaki: 4 KK, 22-6 Ms4w Mita: 3 KK, 17-4 Ms11w Okaryu: 5 KK, 26-9 Ms13w Inami: 6 KK, 31-11 Ms32w Noda: 5 KK, 27-8 Ms52e Shimizuumi: 4 KK, 22-6, Jk, Jd yusho Sd6e Goseizan: 3 KK, 18-1-2 Sd29e Furuta: 3 KK, 16-5 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ack! 486 Posted March 27 Haru 2025, Senshuraku (Final) O1e Onosato: 12-3Y, 12 KK, 121-43, 3x M yusho M15e Aonishiki: 11-4, 9 KK, 71-16, Jd, Jk yusho J14w Kusano: 14-1Y, 6 KK, 38-12, J yusho Ms1w Ishizaki: 3-4, 4 KK, 25-10 Ms4w Mita: 5-2, 4 KK, 22-6 Ms11w Okaryu: 3-4, 5 KK, 29-13 Ms13w Inami: 4-3, 7 KK, 35-14 Ms32w Noda: 3-4, 5 KK, 30-12 Ms52e Shimizuumi: 3-4, 4 KK, 25-10, Jk, Jd yusho Sd6e Goseizan: 5-2, 4 KK, 23-3-2 Sd29e Furuta: 5-2, 4 KK, 21-7 New Ikarigata: 6-1, 2 KK, 12-2 New Gonosho: 5-2, 2 KK, 11-3 New Wakaikazuchi: 6-1, 2 KK, 12-2 New Okada: 5-2, 2 KK, 10-4 New Goseimaru: 5-2, 2 KK, 9-5 New Ikazuchihayate: 5-2, 2 KK, 9-5 New Ideno: 4-3, 2 KK, 8-6 3 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Seiyashi 4,109 Posted March 27 Is Ōnosato going to be the first person to make Y without a MK? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunbukuchagama 827 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Seiyashi said: Is Ōnosato going to be the first person to make Y without a MK? Quite likely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
VictorDiVarca 6 Posted March 27 2 hours ago, Seiyashi said: Is Ōnosato going to be the first person to make Y without a MK? What is wrong with this guy? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunbukuchagama 827 Posted March 27 (edited) 3 minutes ago, VictorDiVarca said: What is wrong with this guy? A completely different era, impossible to compare. Edited March 27 by Bunbukuchagama 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryoshishokunin 330 Posted March 27 1 hour ago, Bunbukuchagama said: A completely different era, impossible to compare. He still did the thing. You have to make it conditional if you want to claim a first here: "In the 6B/Y era" or "in the 15-day basho era". 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sue 530 Posted March 27 19 hours ago, Seiyashi said: Is Ōnosato going to be the first person to make Y without a MK? If he does, first or not, he's going to make _intai_ without a MK, which is almost as impressive. And there are still two other sekitori wallys coming up behind him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 1,613 Posted March 28 23 minutes ago, Sue said: If he does, first or not, he's going to make _intai_ without a MK, which is almost as impressive. And there are still two other sekitori wallys coming up behind him. Only a couple of Yokozuna since 1958 have actually posted 8 losses, but I believe technically absences count as MK. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ack! 486 Posted March 30 On 27/03/2025 at 17:27, Reonito said: Only a couple of Yokozuna since 1958 have actually posted 8 losses, but I believe technically absences count as MK. They have in the past on The Wall. I have, however, exempted those kyujo during their very first basho. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ack! 486 Posted May 13 Natsu 2025 starting linup Better late than never... O1e Onosato: 12 KK, 121-43, 3x M yusho M9e Aonishiki: 9 KK, 71-16, Jd, Jk yusho J1w Kusano: 6 KK, 38-12, J yusho J14e Mita: 4 KK, 22-6 Ms9e Inami: 7 KK, 35-14 Ms45e Ikarigata: 2 KK, 12-2 Ms46e Goseizan: 4 KK, 23-3-2 Sd5w Furuta: 4 KK, 21-7 Sd76e Gonosho: 2 KK, 11-3 Sd52w Wakaikazuchi: 2 KK, 12-2 Jd22e Okada: 2 KK, 10-4 Jd28w Goseimaru: 2 KK, 9-5 Jd30e Ikazuchihayate: 2 KK, 9-5 Jd45w Ideno: 2 KK, 8-6 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wakawakawaka 186 Posted May 13 (edited) ^ Were the TD rikishi intentionally omitted? Or do they not usually count? Nvm there is a 2 basho minimum? Edited May 13 by Wakawakawaka Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ack! 486 Posted May 15 Yep, need a streak that can broken Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sokkenaiyama 81 Posted May 20 On 13/05/2025 at 05:38, Ack! said: Natsu 2025 starting linup Better late than never... O1e Onosato: 12 KK, 121-43, 3x M yusho ... That's a mighty wall to hit. On 27/03/2025 at 08:32, VictorDiVarca said: What is wrong with this guy? Nothing's wrong, he was quite dominant in that era, for sure. The thing is he only weighed about 100 kg to Onosato's 170-ish and only had to fight 20 bouts a year compared to 90 in the modern era - so much lower chances for injury, which I suspect will be what does Onosato in, even if there's never an actual 8-loss makekoshi (that seems as imminent as his Yokozuna promotion). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ack! 486 Posted May 26 Natsu 2025 Senshuraku (Final): Our top 3 had an outstanding basho! Mita survives to fight another day. Inami cements his place as the Wall's tortoise with a fifth consective 4-3, slow and steady. Furuta is losing momentum but still alive. O1e Onosato: 14-1 Y, 13 KK, 135-44, 4x M yusho M9e Aonishiki: 11-4, 10 KK, 82-20, Jd, Jk yusho J1w Kusano: 13-2 Y, 7 KK, 51-14, 2x J yusho J14e Mita: 8-5-2, 5 KK, 30-11-2 Ms9e Inami: 4-3, 8 KK, 39-17 Ms45e Ikarigata: 3-4, 2 KK, 15-6 Ms46e Goseizan: 3-4, 4 KK, 26-7-2 Sd5w Furuta: 4-3, 5 KK, 25-10 Sd52w Wakaikazuchi: 4-3, 3 KK, 16-5 Sd76e Gonosho: 5-2, 3 KK, 16-5 Jd22e Okada: 5-2, 3 KK, 15-6 Jd28w Goseimaru: 2-5, 2 KK, 11-10 Jd30e Ikazuchihayate: 4-3, 3 KK, 13-8 Jd45w Ideno: 2-5, 2 KK, 10-11 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,416 Posted May 26 (edited) I remember learning that Akebono made it to sekiwake before taking his first MK. That seemed so impressive at the time (and it still is), but making yokozuna without a MK is something else. Edited May 26 by Katooshu 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 1,613 Posted May 26 54 minutes ago, Ack! said: O1e Onosato: 14-1 Y, 13 KK, 135-44, 4x M yusho M9e Aonishiki: 11-4, 10 KK, 82-20, Jd, Jk yusho J1w Kusano: 13-2 Y, 7 KK, 51-14, 2x J yusho That top 3! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 3,988 Posted May 26 1 hour ago, Katooshu said: I remember learning that Akebono made it to sekiwake before taking his first MK. That seemed so impressive at the time (and it still is), but making yokozuna without a MK is something else. Musashimaru had a 2-5 in his sixth basho (7/1990), so not good at The Wall. OTOH, he didn't have another MK until ten years later as a Yokozuna (1/1990). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ack! 486 Posted May 26 Newbies: Ms28e Goshima: 6-1, 2 KK, 12-2 Ms39w Fukuzaki: 6-1, 2 KK, 11-3 Jd34w Sunasaka: 5-2, 2 KK, 11-3 Jd61e Tenrosei: 7-0 D, 2 KK, 12-2 Jd62e Hikarumusashi: 4-3, 2 KK, 9-5 Jd65e Tsurunofuji: 4-3, 2 KK, 9-5 Honorable Mentions: J5w Wakaikari: 12-3, 10 KK, 1 MK, 3 more KK, 85-42-3, Sd yusho Ms5e Kyokukaiyu: 5-2, 5 KK, 1 MK, 3 more KK, 48-15, Sd yusho Ms33e Daikosho: 5-2, 3 KK, 1 MK, 3 more KK, 36-13 Sd39e Fujizumi: 6-1, 5 KK after 2 years banzuke-gai and only 1 prior non-kyujo MK, 44-19-28 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
