Corona and sumo

[Tsuchinoninjin 1,276]

4 hours ago, Octofuji said:

This is disturbing to hear as someone who's going to Japan in September and tested positive for COVID on Friday.

If I get to travel I really hope my sense of smell recovers, one of the lasting highlights of visiting in 2019 was the aroma of bintsuke!

Yeah its hard to enter the country, but still the anxiety does not end there. One big issue is if you contract in Japan it will be very difficult to leave for some time. Not great if you have things like work responsibilities.

[Octofuji 369]

5 hours ago, Tsuchinoninjin said:

Yeah its hard to enter the country, but still the anxiety does not end there. One big issue is if you contract in Japan it will be very difficult to leave for some time. Not great if you have things like work responsibilities.

Thanks for the warning. I'll be there for six weeks so will be set up for working anyway, but not for the extra accommodation... Two years of escaping COVID and not going abroad has left me with a lot of learning to do! I hadn't picked up on this long tail for positive PCR tests until now.

CLEIA tests (quantative rapid gen as opposed to qualitative) are accepted as well as PCR tests apparently and it seems they are less likely to give a positive based on dead virus. But how easy they are to get hold of in the UK I don't know.

And I thought getting the visa was going to be the difficult bit!

[Shinobi Steve 146]

3 hours ago, Octofuji said:

Two years of escaping COVID and not going abroad has left me with a lot of learning to do! 

Welcome to the club! I avoided it for two years and had it two weeks ago. I was actually instructed not to take a PCR test for 30 days because it would likely continue to show as positive. The rule where I live is to isolate for 5 days after you test positive, then mask up and go about your life for the next five days after that. From reading this post, seems like your six weeks in Japan will be a tad more strict than that. 

[Octofuji 369]

7 hours ago, Shinobi Steve said:

Welcome to the club! I avoided it for two years and had it two weeks ago. I was actually instructed not to take a PCR test for 30 days because it would likely continue to show as positive. The rule where I live is to isolate for 5 days after you test positive, then mask up and go about your life for the next five days after that. From reading this post, seems like your six weeks in Japan will be a tad more strict than that. 

Thank you! Yes that sounds just like the UK ( which I guess it may well be). The main reason for going (well apart from the sumo ) is to see family so I can live with the increase in restrictions.

The good news is the local test centre in Oxford offers CLEIA tests for Japanese travel, and while it's been hard to find anything definite it does seem less likely to pick up dead virus.

This problem of delayed positives with PCR makes me wonder how the NSK handles it, given how many wrestlers have been infected in the past and likely come up again the next time they've done a general round of testing.

[Akinomaki 40,814]

1 hour ago, Octofuji said:

This problem of delayed positives with PCR makes me wonder how the NSK handles it, given how many wrestlers have been infected in the past and likely come up again the next time they've done a general round of testing.

The news mention that those who tested positive are not tested at the next round, but that is usually for the tests shortly after.

It may still show up 30 days after an infection, or even later, but it may as well be gone after 2 weeks or even earlier, if the infection took place well before the first PCR test was made. Somebody who wants to return to Japan will likely take a test every 5 days.

 

I'm still wondering how Mitakeumi was affected by the 2nd infection mid July after the first end of January. Nothing was reported about anybody actually having symptoms, only about positive tests.

Edited August 4, 2022 by Akinomaki

[Akinomaki 40,814]

12 makuuchi kyujo due to Corona at the first day of the jungyo.

Nishikifuji and Terutsuyoshi are among those, the article says including those who were in contact, but Terunofuji is not listed. Apparently no longer the whole heya. Takarafuji in the dohyo-iri then, he was in a pic.

the other Corona kyujo: Oho, Ura, Chiyomaru, Chiyoshoma, Tamawashi, Aoiyama, Myogiryu, Sadanoumi, Shimanoumi, Okinoumi

https://www.sponichi.co.jp/sports/news/2022/08/05/kiji/20220805s00005000246000c.html

[Tigerboy1966 1,474]

2 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

Apparently no longer the whole heya

Looks as though we may have an outbreak of CSV (Common Sense Virus).

[Naganoyama 5,949]

1 hour ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

Looks as though we may have an outbreak of CSV (Common Sense Virus).

Sadly that virus doesn't spread  widely and we rapidly develop immunity to it...

[Reonito 1,523]

17 hours ago, Akinomaki said:

the other Corona kyujo: Oho, Ura, Chiyomaru, Chiyoshoma, Tamawashi, Aoiyama, Myogiryu, Sadanoumi, Shimanoumi, Okinoumi

Tamawashi and Okinoumi were also pulled from the basho 

[Akinomaki 40,814]

6 minutes ago, Akinomaki said:

11 Corona kyujo rikishi returned to the jungyo, Tamawashi and Ura among them. Only Shimanoumi is still kyujo and injured Abi. https://www.sanspo.com/article/20220811-42ZZKRC42FOWLMQSCTWC7MMEHM/

Aoiyama and apparently also Nishikifuji (mentioned  in an article    behind the paywall) had returned earlier. So after Tamawashi and Okinoumi, also Shimanoumi really has been hit hard by the virus.

[Kintamayama 45,534]

Juryo Asanowaka has COVID. No decision on whether he will enter or not. The whole heya will be tested tomorrow.

[Akinomaki 40,814]

The PCR tests of all NSK members for the Aki basho are on the 31st https://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2022082900815&g=spo

[Akinomaki 40,814]

On 29/08/2022 at 11:34, Kintamayama said:

Juryo Asanowaka has COVID. No decision on whether he will enter or not. The whole heya will be tested tomorrow.

3 more riksihi of Takasago-beya tested positive, as usual makushita and below are not named, but Asanoyama is not among them https://www.daily.co.jp/general/2022/08/30/0015597188.shtml

Edited August 30, 2022 by Akinomaki

[Akinomaki 40,814]

After being kyujo at the jungyo, now Abi has tested positive for Corona at the NSK tests today. Ex-Homasho and several lower ranked rikishi of Shikoroyama-beya are infected as well.

1 lower ranked rikishi of Miyagina-beya and one of Sakaigawa-beya also tested positive.

It is undecided yet if Abi and the other rikishi can take part at the Aki basho.

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/news/html/20220831/k10013797451000.html

On 29/08/2022 at 16:34, Akinomaki said:

The PCR tests of all NSK members for the Aki basho are on the 31st

Edit: no mention at all that any of the 4 involved heya so far might go kyujo as a whole

Edited August 31, 2022 by Akinomaki

[Akinomaki 40,814]

The NSK announced that Isegahama oyakata is infected, the fifth heya is affected now. https://www.jiji.com/jc/article?k=2022090100904&g=spo

 

Edited September 1, 2022 by Akinomaki

[Akinomaki 40,814]

On 31/08/2022 at 15:37, Akinomaki said:

After being kyujo at the jungyo, now Abi has tested positive for Corona at the NSK tests today. Ex-Homasho and several lower ranked rikishi of Shikoroyama-beya are infected as well.

1 lower ranked rikishi of Miyagino-beya and one of Sakaigawa-beya also tested positive. 

It is undecided yet if Abi and the other rikishi can take part at the Aki basho.

No new heya but a new case: Takasago-oyakata is infected now. Nobody shows any symptoms and all can enter the basho, if they remain that way. Only the one case in Miyagino-beya and the whole heya needs a retest, the results will decide if they can enter the basho. Shikoroyama-beya has 3 makushita or below infected. https://www.nikkei.com/article/DGXZQOKC02CW30S2A900C2000000/

- life is always (made) hard for Miyagino

Edited September 2, 2022 by Akinomaki

[Akinomaki 40,814]

On 02/09/2022 at 16:46, Akinomaki said:

On 31/08/2022 at 15:37, Akinomaki said:

Abi has tested positive for Corona at the NSK tests today. Ex-Homasho and several lower ranked rikishi of Shikoroyama-beya are infected as well.

1 lower ranked rikishi of Miyagino-beya and one of Sakaigawa-beya also tested positive. 

It is undecided yet if Abi and the other rikishi can take part at the Aki basho.

No new heya but a new case: Takasago-oyakata is infected now.

Apart from those who were shown to be infected already, all members of the 4 affected heya tested negative. The infected Abi, Tatsutagawa, Asanowaka, Takasago and the unnamed low ranked rikishi may take part in the Aki basho if they are negative after finishing their quarantine period. https://www.sanspo.com/article/20220904-ULUPFEACWJLC7AC3LK4IBZ74K4/

[code_number3 708]

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/09/06/national/covid19-isolation-period-shortened/

About quarantine period in Japan. 

[Kishinoyama 596]

14 hours ago, code_number3 said:

https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2022/09/06/national/covid19-isolation-period-shortened/

About quarantine period in Japan. 

From the article: 

"For asymptomatic people with the virus, the self-quarantine period will be shortened from seven days to five, so long as they get a negative result from an antigen test at that point."

Someone at work had mild sinus symptoms and was given a covid test. It came back positive. He kept getting tested and kept coming back positive. A week and a half later, he was finally allowed to return to work and he was still testing positive. Unless things change, I won't be going to Japan for a few more years. 

Edited September 8, 2022 by Kishinoyama

[Inside Sport Japan 762]

Hearing that no one tested positive today in Shikoroyama, Takasago, Sakaigawa, or Miyagino stables.

Everyone concerned should be able to participate in the autumn tournament

[Kintamayama 45,534]

New rules:

If you were infected on the ninth (today) , you cannot enter the basho on day 1. You are kyujo till day 6, and you may enter on day 7. If you were in close contact with a positive person and tested negative on the 10th and the 11th, you may enter on day two. If tested positive a day before the basho starts, you can enter after a week. You will be "treated leniently" by the Banzuke committee, based on each case separately. If you are feeling bad, you must contact Hanakago compliance committee chief and notify him (unless it's early in the morning or after 6 PM, when you will need to contact "the person in charge"), and decisions will be made upon consultation. "We can't have massive kyujos like we had last basho again. It's disrespecting the fans that come to watch the bouts," summed Shibatayama. I guess this means it's all going to be on a personal basis from here on.

 

 

 

Edited September 9, 2022 by Kintamayama

[Akinomaki 40,814]

The shishokai today had a proposal that may be realized from the Aki basho on: those tested positive may enter the day after a quarantine of 7 days (starting the day after testing positive) or the treatment is over. Those in close contact and have an infected person in the heya can enter on the 3rd day, if they test negative the next 2 days. https://www.daily.co.jp/general/2022/09/09/0015625838.shtml

[rhyen 1,846]

Abi is kyujo from Day 1 according to the website.

[Kintamayama 45,534]

21 minutes ago, rhyen said:

Abi is kyujo from Day 1 according to the website.

Not COVID related, AFAIK.

[Seiyashi 4,108]

Something like injuries to ankles and/or elbows was the word? According to Asahi quoting Shikoroyama, he had had problems with those since before Nagoya and did Nagoya under painkillers.

Zenkyū for Aki, it looks like.

Edited September 9, 2022 by Seiyashi