Eikokurai 3,437 Posted March 23, 2019 Is Ichinojo a drinking buddy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benevolance 2,534 Posted March 24, 2019 Only if he's buying. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 978 Posted March 24, 2019 4 minutes ago, Eikokurai said: Is Ichinojo a drinking buddy? No, I think Ichi is a candidate for receiving a beer bottle with his face. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dwale 419 Posted March 24, 2019 29 minutes ago, sekitori said: I question that. When Kotoshogiku won his yusho, he was tied with Hakuho on day 13. He won his bout on day 14 and had beaten all three yokozunas, something I didn't believe was possible. Hakuho was facing Kinsenosato later that day and it was the most un-Hakuho-like match I ever saw. At the so-called tach-ai, Hakuho stood straight up and allowed Kisenosato to push him out of the ring with virtually no resistance. That gave the edge to Kotoshogiku who went on to win his next match and the first yusho won by a Japanese rikishi in ten years. Although this may sound like some sort of weird conspiracy theory, I believe that when Hakuho knew that losing to Kisenosato could lead to Kotoshogiku's championship and total joy for Japanese fans, he willingly lost a match to help make that happen. He already had broken Taiho's record of 32 wins and I guess that winning one more wasn't as important as was alllowing Kotoshogiku to win his first and only title. Every time I remember that Hakuho-Kisenosato match, I continue to shake my head in complete disbelief that the greatest yokozuna of all and the one of the most fierce sumo competitors I ever saw, could look so terrible--unless he wanted to. I am now waiting for people to say that my theory is completely insane--but from what I saw and what I still believe, it makes absolute sense. Hakuho is many things: a freak physical specimen, a technical master, a wrestling prodigy, and more. However, none of this would have driven him to the heights which he has reached without one other essential factor: not just the will, but a burning need to dominate his opponents, to break all the records, to crush anyone who would get in his way. Of course, the only one who knows what goes through Hakuho's head is the man himself. And if your mind is made up, there's nothing I can say to change it anyway. Cheers. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 978 Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Dwale said: Hakuho is many things: a freak physical specimen, a technical master, a wrestling prodigy, and more. However, none of this would have driven him to the heights which he has reached without one other essential factor: not just the will, but a burning need to dominate his opponents, to break all the records, to crush anyone who would get in his way. Of course, the only one who knows what goes through Hakuho's head is the man himself. And if your mind is made up, there's nothing I can say to change it anyway. Cheers. Yeah, he's a Tiger. Edited March 24, 2019 by robnplunder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,151 Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) As to what might happen with Takakeisho should he not get promoted despite winning tonight: consider that the Ozeki guideline of 33/3 is merely a guideline for what typically is necessary to secure promotion, and that they pretty much will take the whole of the recent situation into consideration if it warrants it. So long as he continues to put up 10 wins a tournament, the fact that he won the Yusho won't really "fall off". If he doesn't get promoted with 10 here, but gets 11 next tournament, that might be good enough despite technically being 32/3, given how many 10+ tournaments in a row it would be. And if were to need 11 and get 10 again, then he might only need 11 the tournament after that despite being a mere 31/3 again because of a consistency that is currently in question. These numbers assume the current top 4 remain in good fighting shape; the more of them that are absent the weaker the results would be seen (unless they retire). And if he can manage KKs for 2 years, they'll be falling over themselves to promote him on any reasonable good run. Edited March 24, 2019 by Gurowake 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 978 Posted March 24, 2019 I think he should get the promotion if he beats Tochinoshin. That would give him 34 wins, yusho, jun-yusho, +3 wins against sanyuku in the last 3 basho. That's an impressive record even for an Ozeki. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,759 Posted March 24, 2019 It's getting pretty suspenseful seeing that they're not releasing the sansho list yet. There's a whole field of candidates to choose from 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tiger Tanaka 226 Posted March 24, 2019 It is an absolute priviledge to watch the legend Hakuho work. Moments like yesterday make you really appreciate how special of a talent he is. An absolute master of his craft. While he is a few years removed from his peak strength and speed, his technique remains unrivaled. Add in his intensity and mental strength and you have one of the greatest spectacles not only in sumo, but all sport of all time. While I will be pulling for Ichinojo tomorrow, I hope Hakuho continues his reign of dominance for as long as possible, because each time he steps on the dohyo is a joy to watch. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 978 Posted March 24, 2019 15 minutes ago, WAKATAKE said: It's getting pretty suspenseful seeing that they're not releasing the sansho list yet. There's a whole field of candidates to choose from Ichinojo for sure. Aoiyama, Kotoshogiku are a maybe. Tomokaze if he goes 10-5? Very iffy. Yoshikaze at 11-4? My sentimental favorite is Kotoshogiku. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) Shukun-sho: Ichinojo Kanto-sho: Aoiyama (conditional); Kotoshogiku (conditional); Tomokaze (conditional) Gino-sho: Takakeisho (conditional) Edited March 24, 2019 by Bumpkin 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,810 Posted March 24, 2019 Grandpa Sumo- Aminishiki - lives to fight another day. KK! 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScreechingOwl 343 Posted March 24, 2019 Just another fortnight (plus one day) at the office for Hakuho. And he'll top it off extending his own yusho and zensho yusho record. I love it when people post here about how Hakuho will never win another zensho yusho, or how he is declining and almost finished. As if! Still, I suppose if is posted long enough some day it will come true. Just as decline will come for all of us. But mark my words, we ALL will miss him when he's gone. And we will never see another dai yokozuna as great as him. Maybe there will be one in the next century. But for people born in the year 2100, don't go holding your breath.... 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
neonbelly 226 Posted March 24, 2019 Must-win juice box. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScreechingOwl 343 Posted March 24, 2019 It's interesting that Ichinojo will only get one prize despite being the jun yusho winner, and most likely with a very impressive 14-1 record. It's been a long time since someone has finished 14-1 and not won the yusho or at least been in a playoff for it. It's also interesting that the winner of the Aoiyama - Tomokaze bout gets a prize, while the loser gets bumpkiss. Finally, it's additionally interesting that five rikishi need to win today to avoid (likely) divisional demotion (Chiyoshoma, Daishoho, Terutruyoshi, Kotoeko, and Ishiura) and another rank demotion (Tochinoshin - and, as I believe Gurowake has pointed out, it's possible a win by Mitakeumi might save his rank as well). There will also be 8 rikishi fighting for their kk today. So there is a lot at stake in most of the senshuraku "undercard" matches. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 978 Posted March 24, 2019 Couple of old timers got their KK in juryo - Aminishki & Sokokurai. Looks like we will see Ami again in the next basho. Speaking of juryo, other than Shimanoumi, I don't see anyone with a decent potential to be a regular Makuuchi joi. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 3,437 Posted March 24, 2019 Aminishiki gets his kachikoshi at the last. To think a number of us, me included, were thinking that this was to be his final hurrah for one final paycheck before retiring. I guess we’ll be seeing him for a while longer yet. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 978 Posted March 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Eikokurai said: Aminishiki gets his kachikoshi at the last. To think a number of us, me included, were thinking that this was to be his final hurrah for one final paycheck before retiring. I guess we’ll be seeing him for a while longer yet. I think even the most optimist thought it was over for Ami when he started the basho 0-4. I sure hope he's looking for the right time to intai. Intai with KK as a sekitory will be a deserving finish for his long career. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eikokurai 3,437 Posted March 24, 2019 No jonidan yusho for Terunofuji. Comfortably beaten by Roga. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 978 Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Eikokurai said: No jonidan yusho for Terunofuji. Comfortably beaten by Roga. That was an impressive throw down by Roga and not a bad effort by Teruno who allowed moro-zashi. I wonder what'd happen if Teruno didn't allow moro-zashi. Roga looks like he will go far into sekitori rank. Edited March 24, 2019 by robnplunder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gospodin 268 Posted March 24, 2019 (edited) It seems nobody thinks Daieisho has a chance against Ichinojo. Why is this ? Edited March 24, 2019 by Gospodin spelling correction Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robnplunder 978 Posted March 24, 2019 19 minutes ago, Gospodin said: It seems nobody thinks Daieisho has a chance against Ichinojo. Why is this ? Ichinojo has been dominant in this basho. This is probably his best basho in his career. Daiesho is not in the same class when Ichinojo is at his best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gospodin 268 Posted March 24, 2019 1 hour ago, robnplunder said: I think even the most optimist thought it was over for Ami when he started the basho 0-4. I sure hope he's looking for the right time to intai. Intai with KK as a sekitory will be a deserving finish for his long career. Please be kind and allow a little most-of-the time-lurker a small, harmless portion of self-praise http://www.sumoforum.net/forums/topic/38749-haru-basho-2019-discussion-spoilers/?page=10&tab=comments#comment-386686 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,810 Posted March 24, 2019 37 minutes ago, Eikokurai said: No jonidan yusho for Terunofuji. Comfortably beaten by Roga. Roga is a monster. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rainoyama 1,157 Posted March 24, 2019 Shimanoumi's interview was really nice, it's always refreshing to see someone actually give interesting answers to the questions, I'm looking forward to see in in makuuchi next basho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
