ALAKTORN 346 Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) A 3-second bout plus 3 minutes of bonus activities for everybody: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34dkkRLTJ48 Was that the wrong link? That was a long bout, with a wrong conclusion after the mono-ii… Edit: if a shinpan noticed Takamisato’s foot going out after 3 seconds, why wasn’t the match called there and then…? Also, I think that’s a very harsh decision, he might’ve barely touched outside with the tip of his thumb… Edited July 16, 2013 by ALAKTORN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,650 Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) Edit: if a shinpan noticed Takamisato’s foot going out after 3 seconds, why wasn’t the match called there and then…? Erm, presumably because an overeager shimpan did exactly that in a Harumafuji bout very recently, and it turned out he was wrong. It's sensible to let the bout continue to a normal ending, and then check if the decision needs to be corrected. They just got unlucky this time because the bout went long and even included a mawashi break, which is why I found it interesting enough to post. Also, I think that’s a very harsh decision, he might’ve barely touched outside with the tip of his thumb… I have no idea what to make of this statement. If he was out, he was out. Edited July 16, 2013 by Asashosakari 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shumitto 418 Posted July 16, 2013 Can Ricardo take the yusho? By this time tomorrow he will be out of the race. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALAKTORN 346 Posted July 16, 2013 Also, I think that’s a very harsh decision, he might’ve barely touched outside with the tip of his thumb…I have no idea what to make of this statement. If he was out, he was out.What I was trying to say is that he didn’t look out to me. What’s that Harumafuji bout? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,650 Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) What’s that Harumafuji bout? I was wrong about "very recently", it's already been four basho since. (Time flies...) Thread, video. Edited July 16, 2013 by Asashosakari Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benevolance 2,453 Posted July 16, 2013 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUzeb5b7-k8'>Harumafuji vs Goeidou in Fukuoka 2012. I only recall that because I was sitting ringside. :-) Edit: Beaten to the post... Edited July 16, 2013 by Benevolance Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ScreechingOwl 343 Posted July 16, 2013 Also, I think that’s a very harsh decision, he might’ve barely touched outside with the tip of his thumb…I have no idea what to make of this statement. If he was out, he was out.What I was trying to say is that he didn’t look out to me.What’s that Harumafuji bout? Also, I think that’s a very harsh decision, he might’ve barely touched outside with the tip of his thumb…I have no idea what to make of this statement. If he was out, he was out.What I was trying to say is that he didn’t look out to me.What’s that Harumafuji bout? In Kyushu 2012, day 9, one of the shinpan raised his hand and called to the gyoji to stop the bout, which he did (without indicating a winner). The shinpan said that Harumafuji had stepped out. A strange sort of mono-ii occurred (I say mono-ii with some license, as the gyoji had not indicated a winner) as everyone looked for a mark on the sand (and the video tape was reviewed). No mark having been found, the match was resumed in the stopped position, and Harumafuji went on to win. The whole flow of the bout, however, had been ruined. As Alaktorn notes, unless the shinpan is 100 percent certain it is better to review a step-out after the match has been decided. (It should also be noted that the shinpan who stopped the Harumafuji-Goiedo match was not the one in the best position to see the step out.) Speaking about Harumafuji, he really needs to go kyujo today; otherwise he could easily end up with fewer than 10 victories. He should feign an injury, if he has one not. Three pretty ugly losses in a row. Better a voluntary kyujo than a forced intai. . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nabuko 11 Posted July 16, 2013 Can Ricardo take the yusho? By this time tomorrow he will be out of the race. Ma ybe on Sunday we will call him yushoinho. (Laughing...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted July 16, 2013 Can Ricardo take the yusho? By this time tomorrow he will be out of the race. Ma ybe on Sunday we will call him yushoinho. (Laughing...) hmm, I guess his chances are better for kanto-shoão 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bugman 384 Posted July 16, 2013 A nice "normal" big vs small matchup: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8e3rfj0Lxc Speaking of big vs small, what do you guys think of this promising young prospect: He's a little on the small side but he has a fearless and fast tachi-ai, minimum Komosubi material i reckon, all he needs is a shikona. :) (sorry for off-topic) 7 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benevolance 2,453 Posted July 17, 2013 What a genki pengi! But small? Nonsense. I have a feeling that if Tamanoi-oyakata measures him, he'll meet the 167cm minimum height requirement. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,650 Posted July 17, 2013 Looks like they're trying to save up the Hakuho-Kotooshu match. Standard scheduling would have called for it on Day 11, but it's been delayed until at least Day 13 now, by moving standard Day 12 to Day 11 and standard Day 13 to Day 12. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masumasumasu 902 Posted July 17, 2013 Harumafuji isn't kyujo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted July 17, 2013 We just witnessed the first - and maybe also the last - bout between rikishi from Egypt and the Czech Republic. How must it be for Takanoyama to see the big sandstorm overtake him in just a few basho, when he needed 10 years to climb to sekitoridom. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
r12477 2 Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/embed/BlBgdWpj6p4 (Sorry - I don't know how to embed a YouTube video player) Takanoyama v. Osunaarashi ... What was that?! Edited July 17, 2013 by r12477 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted July 17, 2013 http://www.youtube.com/embed/BlBgdWpj6p4 (Sorry - I don't know how to embed a YouTube video player) Takanoyama v. Osunaarashi ... What was that?! That was vintage Takanoyama trickery! Given his physique and his judo skills, this is often his only chance to win 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
r12477 2 Posted July 17, 2013 That was vintage Takanoyama trickery! Given his physique and his judo skills, this is often his only chance to win That is fine and good ... and as a Judo-ka myself, I can wholly appreciate this. But this is something which I would have expected to be viewed with some disdain within the sumo community. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted July 17, 2013 That was vintage Takanoyama trickery! Given his physique and his judo skills, this is often his only chance to win That is fine and good ... and as a Judo-ka myself, I can wholly appreciate this. But this is something which I would have expected to be viewed with some disdain within the sumo community. Well some do, some don't. I think he adds a different flavor and I do enjoy his bouts because you never know what trick he pulls off or whether some wild chase will ensue inside the dohyo. But I am afraid that his days in the sekitori ranks are numbered. Btw, nice profile picture you have there! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 44,191 Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) That is fine and good ... and as a Judo-ka myself, I can wholly appreciate this. But this is something which I would have expected to be viewed with some disdain within the sumo community. I'm pretty sure Oosunaarashi's Oyakata told him a thousand times to watch out for the hand-pull at the tachiai. If anything, he should have swatted Takanoyama mid-air like a fly and sent him crashing into the balcony. But, like many others before him, he lost concentration for a split-second. That was enough. I won't get into the "disdain" argument, as Henka arguments are known to quickly deteriorate into dark areas.. Edited July 17, 2013 by Kintamayama 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
r12477 2 Posted July 17, 2013 I'm pretty sure Oosunaarashi's Oyakata told him a thousand times to watch out for the hand-pull at the tachiai. If anything, he should have swatted Takanoyama mid-air like a fly and sent him crashing into the balcony. But, like many others before him, he lost concentration for a split-second. That was enough. I won't get into the "disdain" argument, as Henka arguments are known to quickly deteriorate into dark areas.. Very true observation (that about loss of concentration and eventual result) - My comment about disdain was (and is, still) not to derail discussion, but rather an exclamation about how dynamic and effective the henka by Takanoyama was against Oosunaarashi. Moreover, it may show that there is some maturation and development which Oosunaarashi may need to undertake in Juryo before competing in the higher ranks. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pandaazuma 1,310 Posted July 17, 2013 Just before the Osunaarashi bout I had a bad feeling...just felt something like that would happen. As Nishinoshima says, that speed is a nightmare and on his day Takanoyama can bamboozle anyone. Learning curve, basically. I still expect Boody to win at least three of the last four (assuming his arm injury is not too serious). And let's not forget: both Asashoryu AND Hakuho went 9-6 as shin-Juryo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 18,650 Posted July 17, 2013 (edited) Meanwhile, Ishiura's run has ended. I'd have to consider Onosho as the sandanme yusho favourite now - that's going to get the Japanese press talking if it happens. Edited July 17, 2013 by Asashosakari 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pandaazuma 1,310 Posted July 17, 2013 (assuming his arm injury is not too serious). Dude! He's wearing a huge bandage on his right arm so I just assumed it's hurt! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masumasumasu 902 Posted July 17, 2013 Kiss my booty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pandaazuma 1,310 Posted July 17, 2013 Oh! Two of all-time faves as gues commentators today: Tochiazuma and Kotonishiki! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
