Kuroyama 715 Posted November 18, 2012 It was an irony. Everyone knows it all started with a henka. I kinda figured you knew but posted it in case you were serious... No, Shumitto got it right. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted November 18, 2012 I may have been in the wrong performance recently, but is there nothing else happening in the basho as one rikishi henkas another one? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronnie 221 Posted November 18, 2012 In American football, the defensive linemen can usually tell when the offensive linemen are going to pass-block (when they move backwards) and when there's a handoff called (when they would be charging straight ahead). The defensive line watches the body language and whether the knuckles of the offensive linemen are white because they're leaning on them (meaning a straight-forward charge). When the offensive linemen tend to sit back slightly and put less pressure on their knuckles, it's a good bet that they'll be back-pedalling in pass-block mode. Don't those guys all wear gloves? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronnie 221 Posted November 18, 2012 I may have been in the wrong performance recently, but is there nothing else happening in the basho as one rikishi henkas another one? But it was such a beautiful henka. Surely the best time to execute a henka is when no one, absolutely no one, expects it. Also, it got me 3 points in DST. Or did I already say that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Treblemaker 254 Posted November 19, 2012 In American football, the defensive linemen can usually tell when the offensive linemen are going to pass-block (when they move backwards) and when there's a handoff called (when they would be charging straight ahead). The defensive line watches the body language and whether the knuckles of the offensive linemen are white because they're leaning on them (meaning a straight-forward charge). When the offensive linemen tend to sit back slightly and put less pressure on their knuckles, it's a good bet that they'll be back-pedalling in pass-block mode. Don't those guys all wear gloves? True, most do, some still don't. but the weight on the fist is still obvious, and the body language is the same. Good point, though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nabuko 11 Posted November 19, 2012 What is going in the match between Harumafuji and Goeido? Very long mono ii. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rōnin 0 Posted November 19, 2012 What is going in the match between Harumafuji and Goeido? Very long mono ii. I do believe Goeido got ripped off. I don't have the luxury of replay but I swear I saw Fuji's foot outside the ring... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kuroyama 715 Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) That was bizarre. It looked as if the shimpan called for a stop to the bout, under the impression that Harumafuji had stepped out. The gyoji didn't call a winner either way -- I think he didn't see why it should have ended. Since I have no Japanese I didn't understand the announcement, but I think they restarted having no other option, seeing no evidence that Haru actually did step out. Basically, I think the shimpan screwed up. He ought to have let the bout end, and in the event the gunbai went the "wrong" way called a mono-ii THEN. In the end, I think it was Goeido who got screwed over, because the tachi-ai didn't go anywhere near as well for him the second time as the first. Edited November 19, 2012 by Kuroyama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) What is going in the match between Harumafuji and Goeido? Very long mono ii. Kent Brockman had Breaking News to announce! No, in fact the tate shimpan thought that Harumafuji stepped outside while evading Goeidos attack. They stared at the mark and agreed that he did not step out and decided to go for a tori-naoshi (rematch) I was just a little surprised that they did not continue in the position they had when the fight was paused, like when there is a mawashi malfunction - first time for me to watch something like this Edited November 19, 2012 by kuroimori Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Nabuko 11 Posted November 19, 2012 I have watched couple of times such situation in the sumo documentary on the youtube. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bugman 384 Posted November 19, 2012 Don't know when Goeido will get another chance like that one, i'm sad he lost. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 6,410 Posted November 19, 2012 No, in fact the tate shimpan thought that Harumafuji stepped outside while evading Goeidos attack. Tate shimpan? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,874 Posted November 19, 2012 In the end, I think it was Goeido who got screwed over, because the tachi-ai didn't go anywhere near as well for him the second time as the first. In the first match, Goeido had the better tachiai and initially had Harumafuji in trouble. After the close call at the edge, Harumafuji had regained control. My impression is that Harumafuji had the advantage when the shimpan called the halt. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,038 Posted November 19, 2012 No, in fact the tate shimpan thought that Harumafuji stepped outside while evading Goeidos attack. Tate shimpan? He's from the tate zoo, which is next to tate gallery. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted November 19, 2012 No, in fact the tate shimpan thought that Harumafuji stepped outside while evading Goeidos attack. Tate shimpan? sorry, - guess I was in a hurry to get post my entry before the final bout. twas the mukou joumen shimpan who called the break/stop off course (which are all suwatte not tate) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted November 19, 2012 No, in fact the tate shimpan thought that Harumafuji stepped outside while evading Goeidos attack. Tate shimpan? He's from the tate zoo, which is next to tate gallery. Thank god he isn't a former Securi-tate... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,430 Posted November 19, 2012 Sharon. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kuroyama 715 Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) In the end, I think it was Goeido who got screwed over, because the tachi-ai didn't go anywhere near as well for him the second time as the first. In the first match, Goeido had the better tachiai and initially had Harumafuji in trouble. After the close call at the edge, Harumafuji had regained control. My impression is that Harumafuji had the advantage when the shimpan called the halt. Mine too, but Goeido seemed to have been not quite so bad off as he was after the second tachi-ai. I suspect Harumafuji still would have won, just not so handily. Edited November 19, 2012 by Kuroyama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Igordemorais 79 Posted November 19, 2012 Goeido is the shiz-nit. i hope he gives Hakuho that much trouble. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kuroyama 715 Posted November 19, 2012 Goeido is the shiz-nit. i hope he gives Hakuho that much trouble. Never mind that. I was hoping to see more from Takanoyama today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Igordemorais 79 Posted November 19, 2012 Heartbreaking isnt it? The Tak Attack is just not cutting it these days Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted November 19, 2012 Sharon. But he hasn't really been tate for quite a while now... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,430 Posted November 19, 2012 Sharon. But he hasn't really been tate for quite a while now... Wrong Sharon, sir.. I meant this one, but I guess you gotta be over 50 to know that.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,316 Posted November 19, 2012 Hakuho now tops another career category - 8-0 starts. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,038 Posted November 19, 2012 (edited) But he has a below par 8-0 to yusho ratio. One click beyond. (You can open both results in a separate window to get an impression.) Edited November 19, 2012 by yorikiried by fate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
