Jakusotsu 6,392 Posted July 17 Perhaps the current Takakeisho is just an AI generated avatar. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,249 Posted July 17 I wonder what Takayasu thinks now, having become the only rikishi to lose to Hoshoryu this basho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jyuunomori 238 Posted July 17 Aonishiki better get that 8 wins and he better earn that Gino-sho. It is incredible work at this point. 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,815 Posted July 17 On 16/07/2025 at 12:07, Akinomaki said: Hoshoryu kyujo coming, maybe for the toe injury on the 4th. It's always good to use a known injury, nobody can say he invented one. He who can't be named is still in the lead. His twin has one, now it's his time to yusho Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Koorifuu 1,120 Posted July 17 Even Kirishima looked impressed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RabidJohn 2,070 Posted July 17 As much as I'd love to see the return of the Mitakeumi I was such a fan of, they calibre of rikishi he's currently facing is very different to the sanyaku incumbents he's going to face if he keeps winning. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octofuji 431 Posted July 17 59 minutes ago, RabidJohn said: As much as I'd love to see the return of the Mitakeumi I was such a fan of, they calibre of rikishi he's currently facing is very different to the sanyaku incumbents he's going to face if he keeps winning. True, but when was the last time he showed the kind of fighting spirit he did today? It's great to see, even if/when he drops down the leaderboard. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Octofuji 431 Posted July 17 What a stonking day of sumo! I don't remember seeing so many great matches all in one day. Even Kotozakura looked interested. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 1,477 Posted July 17 Great day of sumo indeed, though with some exceptions. One exception was Shodai. This is exactly what I had in mind regarding him when writing yesterday's comments. His motivation for avoiding makuuchi demotion was apparently kyujo today. Medical certificate says permanent damage to determination. Hopefully it'll be back in reasonable shape soon otherwise we'll see Shodai in juryo. Kayo should try something unusual for a change, like moving forwards. Who knows, maybe it'll work? Oh my, that delicious and at the same time powerful tsuridashi by Fujinokawa was something to behold! If he doesn't get a mention in the spirited rikishi list again then something is wrong with the voters. Every basho I'm still looking for the Takanosho that Demon Kakka predicted to rise to ozeki this year. Unfortunately each time he seems to be barely scraping by, getting lots of inexplicable losses and just not looking nowhere near like ozeki material. It was an unlikely prediction anyway so perhaps it's not just going to happen for Takanosho. Maybe injury is to blame, or the 2 double digit basho last year were just a fluke. Hakuoho seems to have stalled this basho, even though he looked quite good at time during the last one. Today he blinked and was already blasted out by a powerful Gonoyama charge. Maybe he should start practicing henka… Aspiring ozeki Wakatakakage got stopped in his ozeki run tracks by ex-ozeki Takayasu. I think that's the most times I've ever used the Word ozeki in one sentence. Anyway, Wakatakakage doesn't lack effort but somehow that sharpness he had last basho is not quite there. It's an uphill battle for him as he still has Onosato and Kotozakura bouts ahead so can't really drop any bouts anymore. The other rikishi have to quickly flip through history books to learn how to counter uchimuso, as Aonishiki puts it to very effective use. Excellent win again today as he's quickly assembling an impressive list of top rikishi scalps. As I guessed, Abi was easy for Onosato, as the yokozuna did a careful tachiai and Abi couldn't make his pushes work at all against Onosato's massive frame. Onosato is back on track and well positioned to aim for a third yusho in a row. The last time that happened was more than 10 years ago! 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,815 Posted July 17 10 minutes ago, dingo said: Onosato is back on track and well positioned to aim for a third yusho in a row. The last time that happened was more than 10 years ago! The last time a new yokozuna did it was Takanohana, in this era before that only Taiho and before that Futabayama. http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&columns=3&n_basho=3&form1_rank=o&form1_y=on&form2_rank=o&form2_y=on&form3_rank=y&form3_y=on 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benihana 1,972 Posted July 17 8 hours ago, junsan said: I can your point but his face is full of glow and he's looking really realxed and healthy. His skin is looking fantastic. So I'd conclude that this is his default state and the poor guy was just force feeding himself profusely to keep weight as a rikishi. Forget the face, i fear for his heart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heather82Cs 15 Posted July 17 8 hours ago, RabidJohn said: As much as I'd love to see the return of the Mitakeumi I was such a fan of, they calibre of rikishi he's currently facing is very different to the sanyaku incumbents he's going to face if he keeps winning. Maybe, but 3 wins from now until the end aren't impossible, and I will root for his KK. Nobody commenting on his co-leader at 5 wins, Ichy? This leaderboard truly is... something else. I am a new fan and I don't think I ever laughed so much during a bout than today - I think I watch Ao/Kiri a half dozen times and I had tears in my eyes every time. The Kiri slaps felt like they were from an Italian humor western movie, /and/ they didn't even work! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oortael 156 Posted July 17 35 minutes ago, Heather82Cs said: I am a new fan and I don't think I ever laughed so much during a bout than today - I think I watch Ao/Kiri a half dozen times and I had tears in my eyes every time. The Kiri slaps felt like they were from an Italian humor western movie, /and/ they didn't even work! Not sure who, but I think Takakeisho was swinging wild against then-Kotonowaka, like he stole his puppy or something. The slaps heard around the world (of sumo). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Oortael 156 Posted July 17 I liked Aonishiki's chances at Ozeki in a year or so, after taking some experience against all sanyaku. But man, he's impressive. I feared getting too hyped up with a Westerner prospect, but I'm actually underestimating him. Congratz young man, and keep going. Also, uchimuso !?!? Talk about taking a signature move far down the playbook. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetsuoka 9 Posted July 17 Aonishiki's uchimuso is rapidly becoming the new Akua's kakenage. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 1,783 Posted July 17 20 minutes ago, Tetsuoka said: Aonishiki's uchimuso is rapidly becoming the new Akua's kakenage. Except his success rate has been a lot higher. Midorifuji's katasukashi perhaps? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaninoyama 1,880 Posted July 17 I wonder if Aonoshiki's brand of sumo will spark a trend. Stay as low as possible like your life depends on it and press forward. Seems simple enough, but he's already made it an art form. Interesting that he presumably learned this from his shisho, who did not fight like this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fashiritētā 213 Posted July 18 1 hour ago, Kaninoyama said: I wonder if Aonoshiki's brand of sumo will spark a trend. Stay as low as possible like your life depends on it and press forward. Seems simple enough, but he's already made it an art form. Interesting that he presumably learned this from his shisho, who did not fight like this. Its the amateur wrestler in him , the Eastern Europeans were taught that style in the 80s and 90s, perplexed USA wrestling for a time, and yes that will be his style, and as you mentioned, his shisho with the huge toolbox. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,249 Posted July 18 I'd also say that early-career Aminishiki (before he wrecked his knees and then added 30 kg to compensate for his reduced mobility) did have a little bit of that in him, too. Not the full submarine style, but certainly digging in close and trying to pull off dashinage and hineri type moves. 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunbukuchagama 976 Posted July 18 6 hours ago, Heather82Cs said: Nobody commenting on his co-leader at 5 wins, Ichy? This leaderboard truly is... something else. Good ole IYM will eventually collapse. We know it, you know it - what is there to discuss? 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaninoyama 1,880 Posted July 18 (edited) 2 hours ago, Fashiritētā said: Its the amateur wrestler in him , the Eastern Europeans were taught that style in the 80s and 90s, perplexed USA wrestling for a time, and yes that will be his style, and as you mentioned, his shisho with the huge toolbox. Even some of the NHK commentators seem to be under the impression that his background is primarily judo and wrestling, but while he did also compete in those, according to his Wiki he's been competing (and winning) in sumo since he was seven. So maybe he's just a prodigy and his style is something native to him from an early age, though I'm sure he's only further refined it under the tutelage of Aminishiki. Edited July 18 by Kaninoyama 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shantan123 23 Posted July 18 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Kaninoyama said: Even some of the NHK commentators seem to be under the impression that his background is primarily judo and wrestling, but while he did also compete in those, according to his Wiki he's been competing (and winning) in sumo since he was seven. So maybe he's just a prodigy and his style is something native to him from an early age, though I'm sure he's only further refined it under the tutelage of Aminishiki. You can actually find videos of him competing in the world championships freestyle wrestling on YouTube. He was a wrestler that did a little bit of sumo on the side for fun. But he says sumo in eastern Europe/Ukraine is basically just wrestling with sumo rules as there's basically no tachiai etc. he also says that all people that do sumo wrestling in Ukraine are either wrestlers or judoka. Edit: Edited July 18 by shantan123 3 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaninoyama 1,880 Posted July 18 (edited) 24 minutes ago, shantan123 said: You can actually find videos of him competing in the world championships freestyle wrestling on YouTube. He was a wrestler that did a little bit of sumo on the side for fun. But he says sumo in eastern Europe/Ukraine is basically just wrestling with sumo rules as there's basically no tachiai etc. he also says that all people that do sumo wrestling in Ukraine are either wrestlers or judoka. Edit: Thanks for posting that. Yeah in this video he definitely looks like he's wrestling the same way he does sumo. So I stand corrected. His wrestling background is clearly serving him well in his current career. Edited July 18 by Kaninoyama 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wakawakawaka 217 Posted July 18 (edited) ^^ 0:14 - Uchimuso lol Edited July 18 by Wakawakawaka 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 6,392 Posted July 18 (edited) Not quite convincing again by Seihakuho, but a fun end against Narutaki. Reminded me of the Kotooshu of yore. Edit: ...and they're waiting for the Juryo dohyo-iri to finishi to come up with a suitable kimarite. Edited July 18 by Jakusotsu 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
