Basho Talk Hatsu 2018 (SPOILERS)

[Rocks 1,809]

1 minute ago, Gurowake said:

"角界" is being translated as "horny world", when even my plug-in knows that it means "sumo world" (don't ask me why though).  Don't ask me about the rest though, it doesn't really make any sense to me.

Thanks. I think the good cook man is because near the end of the article it mentions how he buys his own ingredients and cooks Georgian food at home. Nicholas Cage though? Don't get it. First line is "Yokozuna Nicholas Cage".  Funny. 

[Gurowake 4,111]

9 minutes ago, Rocks said:

Thanks. I think the good cook man is because near the end of the article it mentions how he buys his own ingredients and cooks Georgian food at home. Nicholas Cage though? Don't get it. First line is "Yokozuna Nicholas Cage".  Funny. 

The first line? That's not hard (I just learned the 盛り上げた verb too).

横綱2人が休場した大相撲を盛り上げたのは“角界のニコラス・ケイジ”、栃ノ心（30）。

Tochinoshin, the "Nicholas Cage" of the sumo world, brought excitement to Ozumo after the kyujo of 2 Yokozuna.

I gave up when I got to " 負ける姿が浮かばないくらい強かった " and couldn't make sense of it despite knowing most of the words.  There's just so many ways to translate some words that trying to get something that makes sense is really hard as someone who doesn't know the language at that well.

Edited January 28, 2018 by Gurowake

[Rocks 1,809]

2 minutes ago, Gurowake said:

Tochinoshin, the "Nicholas Cage" of the sumo world

I wonder what they meant with this? A compliment? Given Nicholas cage's reputation I wouldn't call being compared to him a compliment. Maybe Tochinoshin likes him a lot or something.

[Morty 1,505]

2 minutes ago, Rocks said:

I wonder what they meant with this? A compliment? Given Nicholas cage's reputation I wouldn't call being compared to him a compliment. Maybe Tochinoshin likes him a lot or something.

I think it is just that he looks a bit like him. 

[Gurowake 4,111]

The Japanese wikipedia page for him indicates that it's a nickname for him, but doesn't give a source as far as I can tell.  But yes, I just assumed he looks a little like Nick Cage.

Unusually, it doesn't have his blood type.  Perhaps because he's not Japanese, and so he doesn't care a whit about it unless he needs to receive or donate blood.  But you can find it on, for example, Shohozan's. ( 血液型はA型 - Type A blood)

Edited January 28, 2018 by Gurowake

[Rocks 1,809]

4 minutes ago, Gurowake said:

The Japanese wikipedia page for him indicates that it's a nickname for him, but doesn't give a source as far as I can tell.  But yes, I just assumed he looks a little like Nick Cage.

Looks like the reporter got a lot of info from that page.

[Gurowake 4,111]

1 minute ago, Rocks said:

Looks like the reporter got a lot of info from that page.

It wouldn't surprise me, but keep in mind that page probably has every single piece of interesting information reported on him in the Japanese press.  So they just may have got it from the sources that Wikipedia editors did.

[apraxin 56]

13 minutes ago, Gurowake said:

I gave up when I got to " 負ける姿が浮かばないくらい強かった " and couldn't make sense of it despite knowing most of the words.  There's just so many ways to translate some words that trying to get something that makes sense is really hard as someone who doesn't know the language at that well.

'(A person affiliated with the Kyokai says "This basho) he has been so strong that it was hard to even imagine him losing." ' 

[Asashosakari 19,726]

46 minutes ago, Gurowake said:

"角界" is being translated as "horny world", when even my plug-in knows that it means "sumo world" (don't ask me why though).

"sumō" used to be commonly written 角力, until the late 19th/early 20th century says ja.wiki.

[rzombie1988 159]

Tochinoshin picked the right basho to get hot. This was one of the weakest in a basho's long time.

I think we're going to be seeing more variety amongst winners. Kakuryu should have never been Yokozuna, Hakuho's near the end and who knows if Kise/Terunofuji will ever be back to 100%.

Edited January 28, 2018 by rzombie1988

[Rocks 1,809]

I have to say I am very impressed with Ryuden this basho. Watching his slow but steady progression through juryo it seemed like there were a few matches every basho where he had a lack of focus. His makuuchi debut was completely different. He's been in every match hard like Chiyonokuni, just giving his best. And it's paid off. Kudos to him. He deserves any special prize he gets.

And in keeping with comparing rikishi to American actors I think Ryduen looks like Steven Seagal. 

[PawnSums 59]

does anyone think that next basho will have a Neckless yusho winner?

[Yamanashi 3,917]

2 hours ago, Gurowake said:

The Japanese wikipedia page for him indicates that it's a nickname for him, but doesn't give a source as far as I can tell.  But yes, I just assumed he looks a little like Nick Cage.

Unusually, it doesn't have his blood type.  Perhaps because he's not Japanese, and so he doesn't care a whit about it unless he needs to receive or donate blood.  But you can find it on, for example, Shohozan's. ( 血液型はA型 - Type A blood)

Remember, Kotooshu was the "David Beckham of Sumo".

[just_some_guy 287]

11 minutes ago, PawnSums said:

does anyone think that next basho will have a Neckless yusho winner?

No. With all due respect to them, I don't expect Chiyomaru or Takarafuji to ever win a yusho, nor do I have any idea why you'd suggest the possibility.

 

42 minutes ago, rzombie1988 said:

Tochinoshin picked the right basho to get hot. This was one of the weakest in a basho's long time.

I think we're going to be seeing more variety amongst winners. Kakuryu should have never been Yokozuna, Hakuho's near the end and who knows if Kise/Terunofuji will ever be back to 100%.

If Hakuho isn't healthy, for sure there will be variety. There's a vacuum at the top ranks now, and not enough losses are going to be handed down from up top to stop the lower ranks from picking up a yusho here and there. I wouldn't be surprised to see a new Ozeki this year.

[PawnSums 59]

1 minute ago, just_some_guy said:

No. With all due respect to them, I don't expect Chiyomaru or Takarafuji to ever win a yusho, nor do I have any idea why you'd suggest the possibility.

it was just a joke, what with the shock of a tochinoshin yusho.

[sekitori 492]

19 hours ago, charliki said:

Kakuryu is not far from the Intai.

That was a generally held belief before the basho began. Ten days later, Kakuryu was undefeated and was looking very good. The consensus seemed to be that he was in complete control and the was basho was his to lose. Unfortunately, he did. We now seem to have returned to that same generally held belief before the basho began. 

Tochinoshin is now starting an ozeki run. The same feeling prevailed when Kyokutenho won his only yusho at 13-2. He had a similar looking record the next basho but it unfortunately was 2-13. Tochinoshin's record in the Haru basho should be a lot better than that.  The big question is how much better.

 

 

Edited January 28, 2018 by sekitori

[Asashosakari 19,726]

41 minutes ago, sekitori said:

Tochinoshin is now starting an ozeki run. The same feeling prevailed when Kyokutenho won his only yusho at 13-2.

He was 12-3, and I don't recall a single person seriously suggesting that he'd be contending for ozeki afterwards. Heck, the Kyokai didn't even bother to promote him to sanyaku, that spoke loud and clear what they thought of that idea.

[Asashosakari 19,726]

Meisei kachikoshi from 1-6!  

[Rocks 1,809]

6 minutes ago, Asashosakari said:

Meisei kachikoshi from 1-6!  

Yes, that was quite a turnaround.

[Rocks 1,809]

Man Hidenoumi blew that. Never should have went for that late pull. Takagenji gets his KK.

[Amamaniac 2,079]

It's official that Tochinoshin will face Endo on the senshuraku.  There was plenty of speculation in the last three to four days of the tournament concerning whom Tochinoshin would face on the final day.  Endo's name entered the mix on day 13, but before that he was not under consideration (by NHK's sources).  I'm sure that Tochinoshin is happy about the choice.  Most of his wins this tournament netted him relatively small purses (with a few exceptions).  Endo is good for at about 10 kensho.  But given that Tochinoshin is the tournament's champion, I wouldn't be surprised if the total goes as high as 15.  That will make for good motivation for both wrestlers to give it their all.

A highlight after that will be the bout between Kotoshogiku and Takarafuji.  Both men have 7-7 records, and there should be a decent purse for the winner, not to mention the KK.

The yusho race might be over, but there is still plenty to watch.

[Rocks 1,809]

And Myogiryu wins. We have a 2 man playoff for Juryo yusho for sure. If Aoiyama wins it will be 3. Great record for Myogiryu after he's been the last few basho.

[Rocks 1,809]

 

Aoiyama loses giving Daiamami his KK keeping him in makuuchi. Aoiyama likely will stay in juryo next basho.

[Rocks 1,809]

Myogiryu wins the playoff and takes the Juryo yusho. Congrats to him and his return to makuuchi. Who gets the 2nd promotion slot is anybody's guess.

[Rocks 1,809]

Nishikigi wins so he's safe for sure. Takakaze loses dropping to 5-10. Maybe he's iffy for makuuchi next basho. He looked terrible in the loss.

Ishiura wins the battle of the henka Princes against Kotoyuki. Another ugly match.