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19 minutes ago, Ogami Ittō said:

Isn't it forbidden to grab the "crack-strap" of the mawashi?

Only the front part (mae-tatemitsu).

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6 minutes ago, McBugger said:

Only the front part (mae-tatemitsu).

Yeah, if you grab that they switch you from rikishi to tokoyama.

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One thing I noticed about Aminishiki the moment he mounted the dohyo for the dohyo-iri is that he clearly lost muscles, specially in the upper-body - at least there it is more visible. Also, his mobility is quite reduced, which makes his win over Satoyama all the more impressive. He has adapted his sumo to his condition, that is, with power techniques no longer an option he goes for slaps and pushes in the hope that his foe will slip on his own. Kyokutaisei seemed aware of this and didn't fall for this (Amini)trick.

If things go on like this it is unlikely that he will win even 5 to scrape by. It would be melancholic to see him leave like this, but retirements of rikishi are rarely very different.

Will Okinoumi finally deliver that stellar performance that many of us have long awaited for ?

I must admit it that I am thrilled as well, but he is the kind of rikishi who beats Harumafuji one day only to lose to Takekaze in the next. Yet, he looks very poised and is hasn't lost his cool in an of those difficult bouts. Quite impressive.

I like Chiyoshoma, and when such a former lightweight becomes a sekitori it is a good thing, but I really hope he doesn't turn into some kind of Hakuba, someone who pulls a trick in almost every tachiai. It would take away some of the shine of his sumo.

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I'm really enjoying this basho. Please don't take this the wrong way, but I'm enjoying it because Hakuhou isn't in it. He's so dominant that you always know he'll be, at worst, fighting for the championship the last couple days, or he'll have won the whole thing with 3 days left in the basho. Again, don't get me wrong. The man is an amazing rikishi, but it's nice having a little uncertainty at the top. Especially with Kisinosato having his missteps.

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7 hours ago, Ogami Ittō said:

AH, ok. I asked because i think Ura was repeatedly slapped to let it go in his famous bout at the World Combat Games.

I think that the rules are slightly different in different organizations (like US SUMO has a weird rule about Tsuppari)

 

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Well, Ura drops to 2-2 with a loss. He makes his Makuuchi debut tomorrow against Daieisho thanks to Homarefuji going kyujo so that kachi-koshi is looking less likely each day. 

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7 minutes ago, Rocks said:

Well, Ura drops to 2-2 with a loss. He makes his Makuuchi debut tomorrow against Daieisho thanks to Homarefuji going kyujo so that kachi-koshi is looking less likely each day. 

Ye of little faith. I predict 9 wins.

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Really fun to see some of the rikishi in their early years. I only had difficulties recognizing Tochiozan. 

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Goeidou is really looking for his kachikochi as soon as possible, things are unpredictable when the boss is not in the house.

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Just when i was sad about okinoumi not being able to keep his streak, a monoii is called to set things straight!! great!!!

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1 minute ago, taresu said:

Just when i was sad about okinoumi not being able to keep his streak, a monoii is called to set things straight!! great!!!

The gyoji actually pointed his gumbai to Okinoumi, meaning he got the call right. 

Okinoumi's use of sakatottari as the kimarite is the first time since Aki 2010 that it was used in Makuuchi.

4 for 4 against the yokozuna and ozeki, who's going to stop Okinoumi now?

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20 minutes ago, WAKATAKE said:

The gyoji actually pointed his gumbai to Okinoumi, meaning he got the call right. 

Okinoumi's use of sakatottari as the kimarite is the first time since Aki 2010 that it was used in Makuuchi.

4 for 4 against the yokozuna and ozeki, who's going to stop Okinoumi now?

Guess i was so nervous about it all that i don't even noticed it. So i they called the monoii? They thought the gyoji was wrong? When he pointed his gumbai out i guess i totally saw i wrong. thanks!

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At this point I'm rooting for Kisenosato to win the yusho doing much worse sumo than he did in the last three tournaments. I'd enjoy that kind of cosmic-justice turnaround.

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Okinoumi is destroying everyone, I wonder what has changed? Are we looking at another Yoshikaze like growth spurt / last hurrah?

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2 minutes ago, Jyuunomori said:

Okinoumi is destroying everyone, I wonder what has changed? Are we looking at another Yoshikaze like growth spurt / last hurrah?

Reminds me of Shohozan, Yoshikaze and Kotoyuki. Over the last few months they all made a splash but couldn't keep it up.

Although it'd be great if Okinoumi would able to take the next step.

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45 minutes ago, taresu said:

So i they called the monoii? They thought the gyoji was wrong? When he pointed his gumbai out i guess i totally saw i wrong. thanks!

The NHK announcer thought it wrong as well: he thought that Terunofuji won and at first assumed it was a mono-ii because it was close - then was surprised that the gyoji had pointed to Okinoumi and apparently thought the shimpan wanted to reverse it, because they must have thought as well that Terunofuji might have won.

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3 hours ago, WAKATAKE said:

4 for 4 against the yokozuna and ozeki, who's going to stop Okinoumi now?

Well it looks like Goeido might just be the right guy for the job. ;)

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We now know why Hakuho retired from the tournament, he didn't want to take part of Okinoumi's rampage. Birds must have told him.

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3 hours ago, Asashosakari said:

At this point I'm rooting for Kisenosato to win the yusho doing much worse sumo than he did in the last three tournaments

That's a tall order seeing as he's gone 55-51 in the last 4 days of a honbasho as an Ozeki, with pretty much even splits throughout his tenure, even during his glory days; he has not made a single clean sweep of the last 4 days since Kyushu 2013, the only time he's done that as an Ozeki. I'm thinking he gets 11 wins at most this time around.

Of course, if that's enough to get him the yusho, I can't wait to see the ensuing situation with the eleven-thousand-man playoffs and the ensuing YDC conundrum. 

There is actually a strict technical term about the aforementioned situation, very familiar to programmers, historians and mechanics alike.

Spoiler

It's a clusterfuck.

 

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