hamcornheinz 839 Posted July 19, 2016 with Takarafuji and Takayasu both doing well, and Terunofuji in danger of being demoted, we might very well have 3 sekiwake next basho, no? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egparis18 622 Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) Can anyone explain to me why Ura was so far from the centre of the dohyo at the tachiai today? And why Amuuru snagged halfway through his charge? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srN4O2MDNzs Thank you. Edited July 19, 2016 by egparis18 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atenzan 1,081 Posted July 19, 2016 with Takarafuji and Takayasu both doing well, and Terunofuji in danger of being demoted, we might very well have 3 sekiwake next basho, no? If Takayasu gets 11 wins and Terunofuji does get demoted, I'd say it's a certainty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,842 Posted July 19, 2016 maybe Kise is not interested at all in getting a Yusho.... all this tiresome photo-sessions, driving around in an open-car on a Sunday evening thru the crowds. interviews, parties, omede-TAI sessions with large, stinky fish and then - the constant pressure to perform or face retirement ?? maybe he loves sumo too much and is just afraid of all that. A Yokozuna needs a certain mental strength and maturity... Kise doesn't seem to be there yet (will he ever get there....?) Five guys with 8-2 and Ichinojo on their toes - Yeah baby, shaggadelic I've often wondered if he can really be bothered too ... bloody tsuna getting in his way all the time ...Nice sentence with Ichi in it. And the annual new year dohyo-iri in freezing temperature at the Meiji Jingyu shrine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hamcornheinz 839 Posted July 19, 2016 Can anyone explain to me why Ura was so far from the centre of the dohyo at the tachiai today? And why Amuuru snagged halfway through his charge? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srN4O2MDNzs Thank you. Hes injured, also quite a few rikishi have done that edge-of-dohyo tachi-ai before when they want to avoid a direct head-on tachiai. No idea why he would choose Amuuru as the specific opponent to do that against, though. Amuuru snagged halfway, I would guess the same reason Akebono snagged in that famous Mainoumi fight: unfamiliarity and hesitation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hamcornheinz 839 Posted July 19, 2016 maybe Kise is not interested at all in getting a Yusho.... all this tiresome photo-sessions, driving around in an open-car on a Sunday evening thru the crowds. interviews, parties, omede-TAI sessions with large, stinky fish and then - the constant pressure to perform or face retirement ?? maybe he loves sumo too much and is just afraid of all that. A Yokozuna needs a certain mental strength and maturity... Kise doesn't seem to be there yet (will he ever get there....?) Five guys with 8-2 and Ichinojo on their toes - Yeah baby, shaggadelic I've often wondered if he can really be bothered too ... bloody tsuna getting in his way all the time ...Nice sentence with Ichi in it. And the annual new year dohyo-iri in freezing temperature at the Meiji Jingyu shrine. All that money, too. Terrible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bettega 431 Posted July 19, 2016 It'll be long 5 days for Teru. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted July 19, 2016 Can anyone explain to me why Ura was so far from the centre of the dohyo at the tachiai today? And why Amuuru snagged halfway through his charge? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srN4O2MDNzs Thank you. Hes injured, also quite a few rikishi have done that edge-of-dohyo tachi-ai before when they want to avoid a direct head-on tachiai. No idea why he would choose Amuuru as the specific opponent to do that against, though. Amuuru snagged halfway, I would guess the same reason Akebono snagged in that famous Mainoumi fight: unfamiliarity and hesitation. you can also see that he is always planting the injured heel right at the tawara so that he cannot be pushed out by Amuru. Maybe this was his idea of not exposing that injured foot to any kind of physical strain. Trying an izori on Amuru was a bit keen if not desperate though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egparis18 622 Posted July 19, 2016 Can anyone explain to me why Ura was so far from the centre of the dohyo at the tachiai today? And why Amuuru snagged halfway through his charge? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srN4O2MDNzs Thank you. Hes injured, also quite a few rikishi have done that edge-of-dohyo tachi-ai before when they want to avoid a direct head-on tachiai. No idea why he would choose Amuuru as the specific opponent to do that against, though. Amuuru snagged halfway, I would guess the same reason Akebono snagged in that famous Mainoumi fight: unfamiliarity and hesitation. I see. I'd never seen it before. Thank you again. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egparis18 622 Posted July 19, 2016 Can anyone explain to me why Ura was so far from the centre of the dohyo at the tachiai today? And why Amuuru snagged halfway through his charge? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=srN4O2MDNzs Thank you. Hes injured, also quite a few rikishi have done that edge-of-dohyo tachi-ai before when they want to avoid a direct head-on tachiai. No idea why he would choose Amuuru as the specific opponent to do that against, though. Amuuru snagged halfway, I would guess the same reason Akebono snagged in that famous Mainoumi fight: unfamiliarity and hesitation. you can also see that he is always planting the injured heel right at the tawara so that he cannot be pushed out by Amuru. Maybe this was his idea of not exposing that injured foot to any kind of physical strain. Trying an izori on Amuru was a bit keen if not desperate though. More for my sumo education and another big thank you. I suppose an izori is the throw he tried at the end? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,842 Posted July 19, 2016 maybe Kise is not interested at all in getting a Yusho.... all this tiresome photo-sessions, driving around in an open-car on a Sunday evening thru the crowds. interviews, parties, omede-TAI sessions with large, stinky fish and then - the constant pressure to perform or face retirement ?? maybe he loves sumo too much and is just afraid of all that. A Yokozuna needs a certain mental strength and maturity... Kise doesn't seem to be there yet (will he ever get there....?) Five guys with 8-2 and Ichinojo on their toes - Yeah baby, shaggadelic I've often wondered if he can really be bothered too ... bloody tsuna getting in his way all the time ...Nice sentence with Ichi in it. And the annual new year dohyo-iri in freezing temperature at the Meiji Jingyu shrine. All that money, too. Terrible. He's got enough kensho to rival Hakuho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rzombie1988 159 Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) That Shohozan henka was so cheap. This is why I'm not a fan of henka's. Shohozan just screwed someone's tournament. Yeah, it's a henka and you still shouldn't lose to it, but it's just poor taste. Shohozan's just going to end up MK later in the week anyway. It's just more of a matter of respect. On the other hand, that henka just made the day for everyone else. Takayasu shouldn't of lost today but either he or Takarafuji have a real shot to steal the tournament. We got Takarafuji vs Takayasu tomorrow, which I would have personally delayed another day or two to build some excitement. Takayasu has beaten him 10-7, but Takarafuji has the easiest schedule going past this, and let's face it, Takafaruji has two stablemates right now who can lose a match for him if need be. I do expect one of the Kisenosato/Harumafuji/Hakuho trio to make it out without another loss and Hakuho would be my bet. Edited July 19, 2016 by rzombie1988 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,656 Posted July 19, 2016 Shohozan doesn't give a damn about the ichimon. Indeed, he even said so here: http://www.nikkansports.com/battle/sumo/news/1681058.html Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hamcornheinz 839 Posted July 19, 2016 And the annual new year dohyo-iri in freezing temperature at the Meiji Jingyu shrine. All that money, too. Terrible. He's got enough kensho to rival Hakuho. They get different salaries though. And if Kisenosato gets that much money now, how much more would he get if he were yokozuna? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lackmaker 437 Posted July 19, 2016 with Takarafuji and Takayasu both doing well, and Terunofuji in danger of being demoted, we might very well have 3 sekiwake next basho, no?If Takayasu gets 11 wins and Terunofuji does get demoted, I'd say it's a certainty. You're certain Kaisei gets his 8 wins? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrGrumpyGills 133 Posted July 19, 2016 Takayasu is looking like a cheerful Filipino grandfather sitting beside the dohyo. He just followed every singly one of the kensho banners with big eyes like a totally astonished 5-year old - very funny scene :-) I caught that, too. Aww :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atenzan 1,081 Posted July 19, 2016 Salary bump per year for promoted Kisenosato: 6 million yen base salary 200k yen attendance bonuses (supposing no kyujo) 450k yen tsunauchi bonus 600k yen participation bonus (100k/basho, paid at intai) 5 million yen to his intai fund (one-off, not per year) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
taresu 38 Posted July 19, 2016 And like i said yesterday, Kisenosato and Takayasu lost and now everything is back to square. (no need to be a genius to realize that obvious outcome). No discrediting tochinoshin effort but Hakuho seemed a little bit shaky today, he must be injured somehow. Even if Kaisei loses tomorrow to Hakuho, i think he still be able to get his KK, he only need two more. Was really painful to watch ura knee cramble under Amuuru weight, and he left the Dohyo limping. Hope he get his KK tomorrow and go rest. Henka is only fun when is done by Aminishiki (miss the guy) and the henka's today was really cheep. Kotoyuuki Half henka was just enough to crush Miyogiryuu's hopes to KK and gave him one win for what? he was already 0-9. When everybody was expecting a exciting bout for Kisenosato, Shohouzan just henka because of - f*ck it, i wan't my win. I would be very sad to pay a ticket and watch that happen. For a split second there i thought that Harumafuji was going to the floor before take takayasu out. Damn he is fast! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CT3* 331 Posted July 19, 2016 Shohozan's henka of Kisenosato literally made me laugh out loud. So unexpectedly gangster that it was actually hilarious. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,656 Posted July 19, 2016 I see a few people are butthurt about henkas today. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hamcornheinz 839 Posted July 19, 2016 Wakatake can confirm or deny this but Ura's move today, and famously that time in amasumo, is called a "sitout" in freestyle wrestling and is a fairly basic move. The difference is that in sumo you can't touch the ground. His bent over "submarine" position is also a very normal position in freestyle wrestling. Its fascinating for me to see, with the little knowledge I have, his wrestling background influencing his unorthodox style. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ALAKTORN 346 Posted July 19, 2016 (edited) Mitakeumi is the first rikishi I've seen taking out a gumshield.I think Takekaze uses it too. There was a discussion about this some time ago… some rikishi said he was scared of using a gumshield because it would make the tachiai impact stronger. Edited July 19, 2016 by ALAKTORN Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atenzan 1,081 Posted July 19, 2016 Mitakeumi is the first rikishi I've seen taking out a gumshield.I think Takekaze uses it too. There was a discussion about this some time ago… some rikishi said he was scared of using a gumshield because it would make the tachiai impact stronger. I'd rather not have a softer impact resulting in a tooth being embedded into my aite's forehead if it's all the same to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hamcornheinz 839 Posted July 19, 2016 Mitakeumi is the first rikishi I've seen taking out a gumshield.I think Takekaze uses it too. There was a discussion about this some time ago… some rikishi said he was scared of using a gumshield because it would make the tachiai impact stronger. How does it make it stronger? I thought a mouthguard simply protects the teeth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dapeng 235 Posted July 19, 2016 I see a few people are butthurt about henkas today. Because Kise the Hope was the victim. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites