Video Stream - Availability

[kuroimori 1,634]

NSK's fb page rating change:

Jan 15: 4.5 out of 5 stars

Jan. 16: 3.0 out of 5 stars

Keep it comin' y'all, show them your love!

What? Where do we rate the FB pages? I've never noticed that beyond the Like button.

Yes we can!

Go to the NSK page on FB, write a "review" (not post or comment),

and as part of your review you can rate the page by giving 1-5 stars (zero is somehow not possible...)

so far, there are 147 reviews - and almost 2000 "likes", so there is still a lot to do.

Write your review, "unlike" the page (as in remove your like) and make your rating today!

Edited January 18, 2014 by kuroimori

[Kintamayama 47,170]

Guess what? Niji is playing the whole Makuuchi broadcast right now, which is incredible. And when I say the whole broadcast, I mean the WHOLE broadcast, not a digest. I am guessing it started at 2PM GMT, or exactly six hours after the end of the live transmission.

Edit- it is a digest but with all the interviews and slomos. Even better.

Edited January 18, 2014 by Kintamayama

[Kintamayama 47,170]

If the 4:3 aspect ratio bothers you at Niji TV, you can watch the stream inside VLC and set the aspect ratio manually to 16:9.

1. Log into Niji and play one of the available channels.

2. Open VLC, go to Media -> Open Network Stream, and paste the following URL: http://127.0.0.1:8902/tv.mpeg. Click Play. Mute the sound in Niji media player.

3. Adjust the aspect ratio from the 'Video' menu. Barring video jitters, you'll get a picture-perfect feed.

Works but the recording is too choppy to use, regretfully- other wise I would have flipped my mind a bit more.. I'm fiddling with the setup, maybe I'll find a way to get a better feed to record.

Edit: I managed to record a pretttttty good clip. I'm optimistic-I just hope that in real time when it's live and many more people will be watching that the quality will be the same. If so, we will have the best quality ever including replays and slomos.

We shall see..

Edited January 18, 2014 by Kintamayama

[torquato 1,075]

If the 4:3 aspect ratio bothers you at Niji TV, you can watch the stream inside VLC and set the aspect ratio manually to 16:9.

1. Log into Niji and play one of the available channels.

2. Open VLC, go to Media -> Open Network Stream, and paste the following URL: http://127.0.0.1:8902/tv.mpeg. Click Play. Mute the sound in Niji media player.

3. Adjust the aspect ratio from the 'Video' menu. Barring video jitters, you'll get a picture-perfect feed.

ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!! Great! Thanks a lot.

Where did you get the port number and file name from, the ':8902/tv.mpeg' bit? Would like to understand where this magic comes from...

It's getting better and better... ;)

This is not only good for adjusting the aspect ratio while watching the show, but of course for much more. Once it's in VLC we can do everything with the broadcast VLC is capable of.

First of all off course recording the bouts.

This is the the way I came up with so far for recording:

1) Open a text editor programme

2) Type in:

"C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe" -vvv --file-caching=5000 --sout=#duplicate{dst=display,dst="standard{mux=mkv,dst=Z:\winshare\sumo.mkv,access=file}"} http://127.0.0.1:8902/tv.mpeg

Adjust the path to the VLC-executable "C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe" (could be "C:\Program Files (x86)\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe" or wherever VLC is installed) and the path to the output file where you want to save the NHK-broadcast (Z:\winshare\sumo.mkv).

3) Save the file with the file extension .bat

4) If the niji programm comes up and shows the broadcast, double click this .bat-file. VLC should open automatically, display the broadcast and save a copy of it under the specified filename.

The command options can be adjusted for different reasons. For examble using a different container format for the output video (e.g. 'ts' instead of 'mkv') or not displaying the video in VLC, but saving only a copy (--sout=#standard{mux=ts,dst=Z:\winshare\sumo.ts,access=file})...

VLC is also good not for only saving a local copy to file, but also for streaming the vid to other client computers. Thinking about this, I just now realize, that someone paying for Ustream could actually restream it via VLC to other users by changing the --sout parameter!

In this niji case however this is not even needed. Any client could access it via VLC by changing the 127.0.0.1 to the public available IP adress of the computer running niji (provided that a possible firewall or router forward the clients requests). While writing this I'm actually trying this out and viewing a niji stream via VLC on a second computer in a seperate local network...

About the quality. For a test recording ffmpeg says:

Duration: 00:07:37.92, start: 0.000000, bitrate: 537 kb/s
    Stream #0:0: Audio: mp3, 44100 Hz, stereo, s16p, 32 kb/s (default)
    Stream #0:1: Video: h264 (High), yuv420p, 720x576 [SAR 16:15 DAR 4:3], 25 fps, 25 tbr, 1k tbn, 59.94 tbc (default)

No wonder the audio is distorted at this witty bitrate. Accordingly the overall bitrate is something lower as with ustream last basho, but video is high profile (not baseline) and gives a higher resolution (not 640x360). This niji NHK stream has a percieveable much better video quality (at least currently for me).

[yorikiried by fate 2,038]

Excellent! What does it mean?

(Just joking, but only because 95% of the people reading your post will be choking. Rhyme intended.)

[yorikiried by fate 2,038]

Excellent! What does it mean?

(Just joking, but only because 95% of the people reading your post will be choking. Rhyme intended.)

Thinking about it: Has Jokoryu already been called Chokeoryu?

[Kintamayama 47,170]

Excellent! What does it mean?

(Just joking, but only because 95% of the people reading your post will be choking. Rhyme intended.)

Thinking about it: Has Jokoryu already been called Chokeoryu?

No, only Jokeonyou' or Joe Conyou, both by me.

[Kintamayama 47,170]

ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT!! Great! Thanks a lot.

This is the the way I came up with so far for recording:

1) Open a text editor programme

2) Type in:

"C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe" -vvv --file-caching=5000 --sout=#duplicate{dst=display,dst="standard{mux=mkv,dst=Z:\winshare\sumo.mkv,access=file}"} http://127.0.0.1:8902/tv.mpeg

Adjust the path to the VLC-executable "C:\Program Files\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe" (could be "C:\Program Files (x86)\VideoLAN\VLC\vlc.exe" or wherever VLC is installed) and the path to the output file where you want to save the NHK-broadcast (Z:\winshare\sumo.mkv).

3) Save the file with the file extension .bat

You're kidding right? VLC has a "record" button. Just press it. Save it wherever you want, It defaults to My Videos. How do you think I've been recording my digests all these years? If I had to write all that command prompt stuff the videos never would have happened...

[Asashosakari 20,213]

Well, looks like Ustream doesn't actually want my money...I was going to shell out the $10 today to have a chance to experiment a bit with the current streaming (might as well do it on shindeshi presentation day, I figured), but the purchase process fails to go through with an unexplained error.

[torquato 1,075]

If it has this one click button, I haven't found it. Sorry. I think you have to click through menues to tell exactly what you want every time. This is something I just came up with to do whatever in one double-click... I didn't say this is the only way to do things nor a perfect way. Perhaps I was just thinking too loud too technically...

With the current situation I'm glad for any hint that helps us watching the game...

I was rather impressed by the fact that this niji stuff can be hooked into vlc at all (thanks to umbriel2) - I didn't know that - and by the fact what can actually be done with this (not only clicking the record button, if it can be found).

Sounds as if you already knew...

Well, perhaps shouldn't think about tech stuff aloud anymore...

[yorikiried by fate 2,038]

If it has this one click button, I haven't found it. Sorry. I think you have to click through menues to tell exactly what you want every time. This is something I just came up with to do whatever in one double-click... I didn't say this is the only way to do things nor a perfect way. Perhaps I was just thinking too loud too technically...

With the current situation I'm glad for any hint that helps us watching the game...

I was rather impressed by the fact that this niji stuff can be hooked into vlc at all (thanks to umbriel2) - I didn't know that - and by the fact what can actually be done with this (not only clicking the record button, if it can be found).

Sounds as if you already knew...

Well, perhaps shouldn't think about tech stuff aloud anymore...

Come on, don't be offended. Your post was excellent. I just wanted to say that we might have to translate Tech to English as soon as there's a best practice. And Moti just wanted to be proud that he knows The Button.

Which exists all right:

You can get it by choosing View (? I run the German version as you can see) from the Menu Bar and then probably something like "Advanced Controls").

Nevertheless, if you record with The Button, VLC uses some defaults for that. With a casual glance, I have no idea where or how you can change these defaults, so your research into command line parameters ARE VALUABLE, as e.g. mkv might be a quite peachy format for archiving etc.

[torquato 1,075]

Ahhh, OK. This button really exists. Really, I didn't know. It's hidden. Usually using a Mac (vlc gui is quite different on PC and Mac as I found out) I wasn't aware...

So somehow for me it was perhaps as difficult to find this damn silly button as it is for others to write a command line... ;)

I'd be happy if we could improve our video situation. Vikanohana for example is talking about bouts in the lower ranks but has anybody seen them? We've lost so much over the last few days. I'd be glad for any tech that might help...

Btw, Andreas, I'm German too.^^ Doesn't make the tech to English translation easier...

[Fukurou 534]

Ahhh, OK. This button really exists. Really, I didn't know. It's hidden. Usually using a Mac (vlc gui is quite different on PC and Mac as I found out) I wasn't aware...

So somehow for me it was perhaps as difficult to find this damn silly button as it is for others to write a command line... ;)

Go to the Tools menu and click on Custom Interface. At the bottom of the window there's a dropdown list just above the Close button. Use the choices there to pick your style. I suggest one of the ones that begin with "VLC" if you want the record button.

Edited January 19, 2014 by Fukurou

[umbriel2 15]

If the 4:3 aspect ratio bothers you at Niji TV, you can watch the stream inside VLC and set the aspect ratio manually to 16:9.

1. Log into Niji and play one of the available channels.

2. Open VLC, go to Media -> Open Network Stream, and paste the following URL: http://127.0.0.1:8902/tv.mpeg. Click Play. Mute the sound in Niji media player.

3. Adjust the aspect ratio from the 'Video' menu. Barring video jitters, you'll get a picture-perfect feed.

Where did you get the port number and file name from, the ':8902/tv.mpeg' bit? Would like to understand where this magic comes from...

Would be proud to say that I elaborated it, but the fact is that all my brightness comes from the net, mainly from this forum:

http://yuzuruhanyu.forumatic.com/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=267

[Treblemaker 254]

If the 4:3 aspect ratio bothers you at Niji TV, you can watch the stream inside VLC and set the aspect ratio manually to 16:9.

1. Log into Niji and play one of the available channels.

2. Open VLC, go to Media -> Open Network Stream, and paste the following URL: http://127.0.0.1:8902/tv.mpeg. Click Play. Mute the sound in Niji media player.

3. Adjust the aspect ratio from the 'Video' menu. Barring video jitters, you'll get a picture-perfect feed.

I may have missed something somewhere, but is there a way to alter the aspect ratio on UBS as well? I've tried the same method of loading it into VLC (as NIJI) but it doesn't seem to work. Can UBS be played through VLC?

The NIJI NHK is super choppy (and of course is the ONLY channel to be of all 7 of them, go figure). Is there a way to put it through VLC and [a] get rid of the choppiness and do something about the audio (again, the only channel on NIJI that has that problem...)

Edited January 19, 2014 by Treblemaker

[ronnie 221]

Does the link for UBS1 take me straight to the sumo, or do I have to search for it?

[ronnie 221]

Does the link for UBS1 take me straight to the sumo, or do I have to search for it?

Should take you straight there.

Thank you.

[kuroimori 1,634]

jpplayer works great for me, nice video feed, sharp "non-ork" audio.

Just woke up too late to check whether Sumo is shown on the BS1 channel before NHK G took over the broadcast at 3:12 p.m.

[yade 14]

In desperation I digged in the jungle of the net and found the following temporary solution:

http://www.myniji.tv/

You have to download the software, register with email address, user name and password, activate the registration code and after activation log in with email address and password. Now you can watch several Japanese streaming TV's, among others NHK. Here in Hungary picture quality acceptable but little sluggish, however you can listen Japanese commentator and watch replays. Better than nothing.

this works fine for me. thank you so much ! I dont speak japanese so I am a little confused about the japanese commentary. Since about 20 minutes the commentator seems to talk only about *yamatofuji*. Can someone please explain what he is talking about because it seems he is not even commentating the ongoing matches. (Eh?)

I just figured out that the sound is corrupt now. even with a reboot I am not able to hear anything. but I have a picture...

Edited January 19, 2014 by yade

[Fukurou 534]

The Mongolian feed (UBS1) reminds me so much of the Kyokai's feed of several years back. Nothing but stutters jitters and long pauses. But it's better than nothing.

Edited January 19, 2014 by Fukurou

[ronnie 221]

Though I'm just seeing some concert right now. Strange, considering Tokitenku was just up. Ah, they've just started the sumo...

I was getting the same which prompted my question.

Well, I've got an old 32 bit Windows XP and it played UBS1 through Opera pretty well. A bit jumpy but the replays covered that.

[Akinomaki 41,723]

I may have missed something somewhere, but is there a way to alter the aspect ratio on UBS as well? I've tried the same method of loading it into VLC (as NIJI) but it doesn't seem to work. Can UBS be played through VLC?

link for vlc is

rtmp://202.131.233.170/live/ubslive2009

I had tried this also and after one error message the stream displayed fine in vlc with this address. The recording to mp4 was fine. I also for the first time began to dig into the command line features, because I want the recording to start automatically when my PC is switched on (preferably by someone else to do this at the time the broadcast starts, when I am not yet there) - I can't find another way than a batch file in autostart with some lines like Torquato showed.

So far I tried this, but it won't work

cd "C:\Program Files (x86)\VideoLAN\VLC"

vlc rtmp://202.131.233.170/live/ubslive2009 --sout"#duplicate{dst=standard{access=file,mux=mkv,dst='C:\Users\aki\Videos\mongol.mp4'},dst=nodisplay}"

Edited January 19, 2014 by Akinomaki

[torquato 1,075]

NHK G will broadcast a 25 min. recap of all makuuchi bouts in a few hours at Jan 20th 1:55 a.m. JST, that is this sunday afternoon 19th 17:55 UTC+1 (central continental Europe).

Edited January 19, 2014 by torquato

[yorikiried by fate 2,038]

Btw, Andreas, I'm German too.

What's with all the Germans here? Haven't we got a Export World Championship to defend?

[Kintamayama 47,170]

In desperation I digged in the jungle of the net and found the following temporary solution:

http://www.myniji.tv/

You have to download the software, register with email address, user name and password, activate the registration code and after activation log in with email address and password. Now you can watch several Japanese streaming TV's, among others NHK. Here in Hungary picture quality acceptable but little sluggish, however you can listen Japanese commentator and watch replays. Better than nothing.

this works fine for me. thank you so much ! I dont speak japanese so I am a little confused about the japanese commentary. Since about 20 minutes the commentator seems to talk only about *yamatofuji*. Can someone please explain what he is talking about because it seems he is not even commentating the ongoing matches. (Eh?)

I just figured out that the sound is corrupt now. even with a reboot I am not able to hear anything. but I have a picture...

Yes, sound was way off and then just died after a few bouts. Yamatofuji is the Makushita guy that beat great new Mongolian hope Ichinojo, causing him to remain another basho in Makushita, come what may.