Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted December 5, 2004 I've heard that the rikishi who performs this ceremony at the end of each day of a honbasho is a makushita-level rikishi who is thought not likely to become a sekitori (and is usually from the same ichimon as the top yokozuna). If true, is there any former yumifuri who's broken the jinx and made makunouchi? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 125 Posted December 5, 2004 i am sure i have heard of one going all the way to sanyaku but cannot remember the name ... this data is somewhere in this forum if you are not bored to look around ... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,687 Posted December 5, 2004 i am sure i have heard of one going all the way to sanyaku but cannot remember the name ...this data is somewhere in this forum if you are not bored to look around ... Indeed it is. :-P Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted December 5, 2004 i am sure i have heard of one going all the way to sanyaku but cannot remember the name ...this data is somewhere in this forum if you are not bored to look around ... Indeed it is. :-P Doumo! Doumo! I had just found this, but yours was better (Sign of approval) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonosuke 28 Posted December 5, 2004 (edited) OK , guys, you ASKED for it. Here's the list I compiled from Momijibashi san's old list (not sure if it's still available). As you may know or not know, in the old days, the last rikishi (I suppose an Ozeki) used to do the Yumitori until they got someone to replace him and this person became a Yumitori. As well until 1952, they only did the yumitori ceremony on the Senshuraku. The current yumitori rikishi is Takasago Beya's Makushita West 24 Ouga whose shikona has two kanji - the first is "OU" of Kaiou as he went to the same Middle School as Kaiou and from the same home town, Nougata City in Fukuoka and the second "Ga" is the same as "KI" of "Toki" as he is his Tsukebito. The photo in this page is Ouga's. This may be coming out a bit messy as I am copying them from my excel but I hope you can figure out. I included the shikona in kanji as I really don't know their correct reading like I never paid attention to them like Hokutoasahi? Yumitori Rikishi By Momijibashi Basho Rikishi Period Heya Rank Shikona Change Career 1866 2 Chibagatake Tamagaki Juryo 千羽ケ嶽 .. Not listed 1883 1 Kusakayama Juryo 日下山 .. Not listed 1887 1 Yamanooto Jonidan 山ノ音 .. Not listed 1897 1 Shiranomine Tomozuna 1 白ノ峰 .. Not listed 1903 1 Shiranomine .. Not listed 1907 1 None Musubi draw .. Not listed 1915 6 Shiranomine Sewanin 21 1916 1 Shiranomine Sewanin 22 1916 5 Shiranomine Sewanin 23 1917 1 Shiranomine Sewanin 24 1917 5 Shiranomine Sewanin 25 1916 1 Shiranomine Sewanin 26 1916 5 Shiranomine Sewanin 27 1917 1 Shiranomine Sewanin 28 1917 5 Shiranomine Sewanin 29 1918 1 Shiranomine Inosuke Sewanin 30 1918 5 Hitachishima Dewanoumi Juryo 常陸嶋 1919 1 Hitachishima Dewanoumi Juryo 1919 5 Hitachishima Dewanoumi Jumaime 1920 1 Ikutagawa Jumaime 生田川 Not listed 1925 5 Hiroshima 1 Dewanoumi Jonidan 1 廣島 1926 1 Not listed 1926 5 Hiroshima 2 Dewanoumi Jonidan 2 1927 1 Hiroshima 2 Dewanoumi Jonidan 3 1927 3 Hiroshima 2 Dewanoumi Jonidan 4 1927 5 Hironishiki 2 Dewanoumi Sandanme from Hiroshima 5 廣錦 1927 10 Takisegawa Tateyma Makushita 1 滝瀬川 1928 1 Hironishiki 3 Dewanoumi Makushita 6 1928 3 Hironishiki 3 Dewanoumi Makushita 7 1928 5 Hironishiki 3 Dewanoumi Makushita 8 1928 10 Hironishiki 3 Dewanoumi Makushita 9 1929 1 Hironishiki 3 Dewanoumi Makushita 10 1929 3 Hironishiki 3 Dewanoumi Makushita 11 1929 5 Hironishiki 3 Dewanoumi Sandanme 12 1929 9 Hironishiki 3 Dewanoumi Sandanme 13 1930 1 Hironishiki 3 Dewanoumi Sandanme 14 1930 3 Hironishiki 3 Dewanoumi Sandanme 15 1930 5 Hironishiki 3 Dewanoumi Makushita 16 1930 10 Hironishiki 3 Dewanoumi Makushita 17 1931 1 Hironishiki 3 Dewanoumi Makushita 18 1931 3 Hironishiki 3 Dewanoumi Makushita 19 1931 5 Hironishiki 3 Dewanoumi Makushita 20 1931 10 Hironishiki 3 Dewanoumi Makushita 21 1932 1 Cancelled 1932 2 Hironishiki 4 Dewanoumi Makushita 22 1932 3 Hironishiki 4 Dewanoumi Makushita 23 1932 5 Hironishiki 4 Dewanoumi Makushita 24 1932 10 Hironishiki 4 Dewanoumi Makushita 25 1933 1 No Yumitori Musubi Draw 1933 5 Hironishiki 4 Dewanoumi Makushita 26 1934 1 Hironishiki 4 Dewanoumi Sandanme 27 1934 5 Hironishiki 4 Dewanoumi Makushita 28 1935 1 Hironishiki 4 Dewanoumi Makushita 29 1935 5 Hironishiki 4 Dewanoumi Makushita 30 1936 1 Hironishiki 4 Dewanoumi Makushita 31 1936 5 Niiya? Dewanoumi Sandanme 1 新谷 1937 1 Niiya? Dewanoumi Sandanme 2 1937 5 Suonada? Dewanoumi Sandanme from Niiya? 3 周防洋 1938 1 Suonada? Dewanoumi Makushita 4 1938 5 Suonada? Dewanoumi Makushita 5 1939 1 Suonada? Dewanoumi Sandanme 6 1939 5 Suonada? Dewanoumi Makushita 7 1940 1 Suonada? Dewanoumi Makushita 8 1940 5 Suonada? Dewanoumi Makushita 9 1941 1 Haraigawa Izutsu Sandanme 1 祓川 1941 5 Toyota Wakamatsu Sandanme 1 豊田 1942 1 Shimizui Takasago Makushita 1 清水井 1942 5 Shimizui Takasago Makushita 2 1943 1 Shimizui Takasago Makushita 3 1943 5 Shimizui Takasago Makushita 4 1944 1 Shimizui Takasago Makushita 5 1944 5 Buyuzan Hanakago Sandanme 1 武勇山 1944 11 Buyuzan Hanakago Sandanme 2 1945 6 Buyuzan Hanakago Sandanme 3 1945 11 Buyuzan Hanakago Sandanme 4 1946 11 Ooiwazan 1 Tatsunami Makushita 1 大岩山 1947 6 Hiyoriyama Wakamatsu Sandanme 1 日和山 1947 11 Hiyoriyama Wakamatsu Sandanme 2 1948 5 Hiyoriyama Wakamatsu Sandanme 3 1948 10 Hiyoriyama Wakamatsu Sandanme 4 1949 1 Hiyoriyama Wakamatsu Sandanme 5 1949 5 Hiyoriyama Wakamatsu Sandanme 6 1949 10 Hiyoriyama Wakamatsu Sandanme 7 1950 1 Goshinzan Dewanoumi Makushita Setonishiki (Juryo) 1 御神山 瀬戸錦 1950 5 Goshinzan Dewanoumi Makushita 2 1950 9 Goshinzan Dewanoumi Makushita 3 1951 1 Goshinzan Dewanoumi Makushita 4 1951 5 Ooiwazan 2 Tatsunami Juryo 2 1951 9 Ooiwazan 2 Tatsunami Makuuchi 3 1952 1 Ooiwazan 2 Tatsunami Makuuchi 4 1952 5 Ooiwazan 2 Tatsunami Makuuchi 5 1952 9 Ooiwazan 2 Tatsunami Makuuchi 6 1953 1 Ooiwazan 2 Tatsunami Makuuchi 7 1953 3 Ooiwazan 2 Tatsunami Makuuchi 8 1953 5 Ooiwazan 2 Tatsunami Makuuchi 9 1953 9 Ooiwazan 2 Tatsunami Juryo 10 1954 1 Ooiwazan 2 Tatsunami Juryo 11 1954 3 Ooiwazan 2 Tatsunami Juryo 12 1954 5 Ootayama Takasago Juryo Toshiyori Nishikido 1 大田山 （年寄錦戸 ） 1954 9 Ootayama Takasago Juryo 2 1955 1 Ootayama Takasago Juryo 3 1955 3 Ootayama Takasago Juryo 4 1955 5 Ootayama Takasago Juryo 5 1955 9 Ootayama Takasago Juryo 6 1956 1 Ootayama Takasago Juryo 7 1956 3 Ootayama Takasago Juryo 8 1956 5 Ootayama Takasago Juryo 9 1956 9 Ootayama Takasago Juryo 10 1957 1 Ootayama Takasago Juryo 11 1957 3 Ootayama Takasago Juryo 12 1957 5 Ootayama Takasago Juryo 13 1957 9 Ootayama Takasago Makuuchi 14 1957 11 Ootayama Takasago Makuuchi 15 1958 1 Ootayama Takasago Juryo 16 1958 3 Ootayama Takasago Juryo 17 1958 5 Ootayama Takasago Juryo 18 1958 7 Ootayama Takasago Juryo 19 1958 9 Ootayama Takasago Juryo 20 1958 11 Ootayama Takasago Juryo 21 1959 1 Ootayama Takasago Juryo 22 1959 3 Ootayama Takasago Juryo 23 1959 5 Midoriiwa Tatsunami Makushita 1 緑岩 1959 7 Midoriiwa Tatsunami Makushita 2 1959 9 Midoriiwa Tatsunami Makushita 3 1959 11 Tosanoura Kasugano Makushita 1 十三ノ浦 1960 1 Tosanoura Kasugano Makushita 2 1960 3 Tosanoura Kasugano Makushita 3 1960 5 Tosanoura Kasugano Makushita 4 1960 7 Tosanoura Kasugano Makushita 5 1960 9 Tosanoura Kasugano Makushita 6 1960 11 Tosanoura Kasugano Makushita 7 1961 1 Tosanoura Kasugano Makushita 8 1961 3 Tosanoura Kasugano Makushita 9 1961 5 Tosanoura Kasugano Makushita 10 1961 7 Wakakuma 1 Hanakago Makushita 1 若熊 1961 9 Wakakuma 1 Hanakago Makushita 2 1961 11 Wakakuma 1 Hanakago Makushita 3 1962 1 Unzenyama Nishinoseki Makushita 1 雲仙山 1962 3 Wakakuma 2 Hanakago Makushita 4 1962 5 Wakakuma 2 Hanakago Makushita 5 1962 7 Wakakuma 2 Hanakago Makushita 6 1962 9 Wakakuma 2 Hanakago Makushita 7 1962 11 Wakakuma 2 Hanakago Makushita 8 1963 1 Wakakuma 2 Hanakago Makushita 9 1963 3 Wakakuma 2 Hanakago Makushita 10 1963 5 Wakakuma 2 Hanakago Makushita 11 1963 7 Wakakuma 2 Hanakago Makushita 12 1963 9 Katsudayama 1 Kasugano Makushita 1 克田山 1963 11 Wakakuma 3 Hanakago Makushita 13 1964 1 Wakakuma 3 Hanakago Makushita 14 1964 3 Wakakuma 3 Hanakago Makushita 15 1964 5 Wakakuma 3 Hanakago Makushita 16 1964 7 Wakakuma 3 Hanakago Makushita 17 1964 9 Wakakuma 3 Hanakago Makushita 18 1964 11 Wakakuma 3 Hanakago Makushita 19 1965 1 Wakakuma 3 Hanakago Makushita 20 1965 3 Wakakuma 3 Hanakago Makushita 21 1965 5 Wakakuma 3 Hanakago Makushita 22 1965 7 Wakakuma 3 Hanakago Makushita 23 1965 9 Katsudayama 2 Kasugano Makushita 2 1965 11 Katsudayama 2 Kasugano Makushita 3 1966 1 Katsudayama 2 Kasugano Makushita 4 1966 3 Katsudayama 2 Kasugano Makushita 5 1966 5 Katsudayama 2 Kasugano Makushita 6 1966 7 Katsudayama 2 Kasugano Makushita 7 1966 9 Kashiwanishiki Isenoumi Makushita 1 柏錦 1966 11 Tochizakura Kasugano makushita 1 栃桜 1967 1 Tochizakura Kasugano Makushita 2 1967 3 Tochizakura Kasugano Makushita 3 1967 5 Tochizakura Kasugano Makushita 4 1967 7 Daichi Nishinoseki Sandanme 1 大地 1967 9 Daichi Nishinoseki Sandanme 2 1967 11 Daichi Nishinoseki Makushita 3 1968 1 Daichi Nishinoseki Makushita 4 1968 3 Daichi Nishinoseki Sandanme 5 1968 5 Daichi Nishinoseki Makushita 6 1968 7 Daichi Nishinoseki Makushita 7 1968 9 Daichi Nishinoseki Makushita 8 1968 11 Daichi Nishinoseki Makushita 9 1969 1 Daichi Nishinoseki Makushita 10 1969 3 Rikuzen Hanakago Makushita 1 陸前 1969 5 Rikuzen Hanakago Makushita 2 1969 7 Rikuzen Hanakago Makushita 3 1969 9 Rikuzen Hanakago Makushita 4 1969 11 Rikuzen Hanakago Makushita 5 1970 1 Rikuzen Hanakago Makushita 6 1970 3 Rikuzen Hanakago Makushita 7 1970 5 Rikuzen Hanakago Makushita 8 1970 7 Rikuzen Hanakago Makushita 9 1970 9 Rikuzen Hanakago Makushita 10 1970 11 Taikouzan Kasugano Sandanme 1 太光山 1971 1 Taikouzan Kasugano Makushita 2 1971 3 Taikouzan Kasugano Makushita 3 1971 5 Taikouzan Kasugano Makushita 4 1971 7 Taikouzan Kasugano Makushita 5 1971 9 Taikouzan Kasugano Makushita 6 1971 11 Taikouzan Kasugano Makushita 7 1972 1 Taikouzan Kasugano Makushita kanji shikona change 8 太晃山 1972 3 Taikouzan Kasugano Makushita 9 1972 5 Taikouzan Kasugano Sandanme 10 1972 7 Taikouzan Kasugano Makushita 11 1972 9 Taikouzan Kasugano Makushita 12 1972 11 Taikouzan Kasugano Makushita 13 1973 1 Taikouzan Kasugano Makushita 14 1973 3 Taikouzan Kasugano Makushita 15 1973 5 Okabe Kokonoe Makushita Chiyonoumi (Juryo 7) 1 岡部 (千代の海) 1973 7 Okabe Kokonoe Makushita 2 1973 9 Okabe Kokonoe Makushita 3 1973 11 Itakura Hanakago Makushita Daigo (Maegashira 11) 1 板倉 (大豪) 1974 1 Itakura Hanakago Makushita 2 1974 3 Itakura Hanakago Makushita 3 1974 5 Itakura Hanakago Makushita 4 1974 7 Itakura Hanakago Makushita 5 1974 9 Itakura Hanakago Makushita 6 1974 11 Itakura Hanakago Makushita 7 1975 1 Itakura Hanakago Makushita 8 1975 3 Itakura Hanakago Makushita 9 1975 5 Fukunishiki 1 Mihogaseki Sandanme 1 福錦 1975 7 Edonohana Mihogaseki Jonidan 1 江戸の華 1975 9 Edonohana Mihogaseki Jonidan 2 1975 11 Edonohana Mihogaseki Jonidan 3 1976 1 Edonohana Mihogaseki Sandanme 4 1976 3 Edonohana Mihogaseki Sandanme 5 1976 5 Edonohana Mihogaseki Sandanme 6 1976 7 Edonohana Mihogaseki Sandanme 7 1976 9 Edonohana Mihogaseki Sandanme 8 1976 11 Edonohana Mihogaseki Sandanme 9 1977 1 Edonohana Mihogaseki Sandanme 10 1977 3 Edonohana Mihogaseki Sandanme 11 1977 5 Edonohana Mihogaseki Jonidan 12 1977 7 Edonohana Mihogaseki Sandanme 13 1977 9 Edonohana Mihogaseki Sandanme 14 1977 11 Edonohana Mihogaseki Jonidan 15 1978 1 Edonohana Mihogaseki Jonidan 16 1978 3 Edonohana Mihogaseki Jonidan 17 1978 5 Edonohana Mihogaseki Sandanme 18 1978 7 Edonohana Mihogaseki Sandanme 19 1978 9 Edonohana Mihogaseki Jonidan 20 1978 11 Edonohana Mihogaseki Sandanme 21 1979 1 Edonohana Mihogaseki Sandanme 22 1979 3 Edonohana Mihogaseki Jonidan 23 1979 5 Edonohana Mihogaseki Sandanme 24 1979 7 Edonohana Mihogaseki Jonidan 25 1979 9 Edonohana Mihogaseki Sandanme 26 1979 11 Edonohana Mihogaseki Jonidan 27 1980 1 Edonohana Mihogaseki Sandanme 28 1980 3 Edonohana Mihogaseki Sandanme 29 1980 5 Edonohana Mihogaseki Sandanme 30 1980 7 Edonohana Mihogaseki Jonidan 31 1980 9 Edonohana Mihogaseki Jonidan 32 1980 11 Edonohana Mihogaseki Jonidan 33 1981 1 Edonohana Mihogaseki Jonidan 34 1981 3 Edonohana Mihogaseki Jonidan 35 1981 5 Edonohana Mihogaseki Jonidan 36 1981 7 Edonohana Mihogaseki Jonidan 37 1981 9 Edonohana Mihogaseki Sandanme 38 1981 11 Edonohana Mihogaseki Jonidan 39 1982 1 Edonohana Mihogaseki Jonidan 40 1982 3 Edonohana Mihogaseki Jonidan 41 1982 5 Edonohana Mihogaseki Jonidan 42 1982 7 Edonohana Mihogaseki Jonidan 43 1982 9 Hidenoryu Mihogaseki Makushita 1 秀の龍 1982 11 Hidenoryu Mihogaseki Makushita 2 1983 1 Fukunishiki 2 Mihogaseki Sandanme 2 1983 3 Fukunishiki 2 Mihogaseki Sandanme 3 1983 5 Fukunishiki 2 Mihogaseki Sandanme 4 1983 7 Fukunishiki 2 Mihogaseki Sandanme 5 1983 9 Fukunishiki 2 Mihogaseki Sandanme 6 1983 11 Fukunishiki 2 Mihogaseki Sandanme 7 1984 1 Fukunishiki 2 Mihogaseki Sandanme 8 1984 3 Fukunishiki 2 Mihogaseki Sandanme 9 1984 5 Fukunishiki 2 Mihogaseki Sandanme 10 1984 7 Fukunishiki 2 Mihogaseki Sandanme 11 1984 9 Fukunishiki 2 Mihogaseki Sandanme 12 1984 11 Fukunishiki 2 Mihogaseki Sandanme 13 1985 1 Fukunishiki 2 Mihogaseki Sandanme 14 1985 3 Kaguyama Futagoyama Sandanme 1 香久山 1985 5 Kaguyama Futagoyama Sandanme 2 1985 7 Kaguyama Futagoyama Makushita 3 1985 9 Kaguyama Futagoyama Makushita 4 1985 11 Hanamusashi 1 Hanakago Makushita 1 花武蔵 1986 1 Hanamusashi 1 Hanaregoma Makushita 2 1986 3 Koganefuji 1 Hanaregoma Makushita shikona change 3 小金富士 1986 5 Koganefuji 1 Hanaregoma Makushita 4 1986 7 Koganefuji 1 Hanaregoma Sandanme 5 1986 9 Koganefuji 1 Hanaregoma Sandanme 6 1986 11 Koganefuji 1 Hanaregoma Sandanme 7 1987 1 Horyu 1 Hanaregoma Makushita 1 鳳龍 1987 3 Horyu 1 Hanaregoma Makushita 2 (runs chanko restaurant) 1987 5 Horyu 1 Hanaregoma Makushita 3 1987 7 Horyu 1 Hanaregoma Makushita 4 1987 9 Koganefuji 2 Hanaregoma Makushita 8 1987 11 Rokkousan 1 Takasago Sandanme 1 六甲山 1988 1 Rokkousan 1 Takasago Sandanme 2 1988 3 Rokkousan 1 Takasago Sandanme 3 1988 5 Rokkousan 1 Takasago Sandanme 4 1988 7 Rokkousan 1 Takasago Sandanme 5 1988 9 Rokkousan 1 Takasago Sandanme 6 1988 11 Rokkousan 1 Takasago Sandanme 7 1989 1 Rokkousan 1 Takasago Sandanme 8 1989 3 Rokkousan 1 Takasago Sandanme 9 1989 5 Rokkousan 1 Takasago Sandanme 10 1989 7 Horyu 2 Hanaregoma Sandanme 5 1989 9 Tomoefuji Kokonoe Makushita Komusubi 1 巴富士 1989 11 Tomoefuji Kokonoe Makushita 2 1990 1 Tomoefuji Kokonoe Makushita 3 1990 3 Tomoefuji Kokonoe Makushita 4 1990 5 Tomoefuji Kokonoe Makushita 5 1990 7 Horyu 3 Hanaregoma Jonidan 6 1990 9 Hinodefuji 2 Takasago Sandanme former Rokkosan 11 日の出富士 1990 11 Hidenohana Hanaregoma Sandanme 1 秀ノ花 1991 1 Hidenohana Hanaregoma Sandanme 2 1991 3 Hidenohana Hanaregoma Makushita 3 1991 5 Hidenohana Hanaregoma Makushita 4 1991 7 hidenohana Hanaregoma Makushita 5 1991 9 Hokutoasahi 1 Oshima Makushita 1 北斗旭 1991 11 Hokutoasahi 1 Oshima Makushita 2 1992 1 Hokutoasahi 1 Oshima Makushita 3 1992 3 Hokutoasahi 1 Oshima Makushita 4 1992 5 Hokutoasahi 1 Oshima Makushita 5 1992 7 Hokutoasahi 1 Oshima Makushita 6 1992 9 Takamiwaka 1 Azumazeki Makushita 1 高見若 1992 11 Takamiwaka 1 Azumazeki Makushita 2 1993 1 Hokutoasahi 2 Oshima Makushita 7 1993 3 Takamiwaka 2 Azumazeki Makushita 3 1993 5 Takamiwaka 2 Azumazeki Makushita 4 1993 7 Takamiwaka 2 Azumazeki Makushita 5 1993 9 Takamiwaka 2 Azumazeki Makushita 6 1993 11 Takamiwaka 2 Azumazeki Makushita 7 1994 1 Takamiwaka 2 Azumazeki Makushita 8 1994 3 Takamiwaka 2 Azumazeki Makushita 9 1994 5 Takamiwaka 2 Azumazeki Makushita 10 1994 7 Takaminishiki Azumazeki Jonidan 1 高見錦 1994 9 Takamiwaka 3 Azumazeki Makushita 11 1994 11 Wakakaze 1 Futagoyama Makushita 1 若風 1995 1 Takamiwaka 4 Azumazeki Makushita 12 1995 3 Wakakaze 2 Futagoyama Makushita 2 1995 5 Takamiwaka 5 Azumazeki Sandanme 13 1995 7 Takamiwaka 5 Azumazeki Sandanme 14 1995 9 Takamiwaka 5 Azumazeki Sandanme 15 1995 11 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 3 1996 1 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 4 1996 3 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 5 1996 5 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 6 1996 7 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 7 1996 9 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 8 1996 11 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 9 1997 1 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 10 1997 3 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 11 1997 5 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 12 1997 7 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 13 1997 9 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 14 1997 11 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 15 1998 1 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 16 1998 3 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 17 1998 5 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 18 1998 7 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 19 1998 9 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 20 1998 11 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 21 1999 1 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 22 1999 3 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 23 1999 5 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 24 1999 7 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 25 1999 9 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 26 1999 11 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 27 2000 1 Wakakaze 3 Futagoyama Makushita 28 2000 3 Shinmei Musashigawa Makushita 1 新明 2000 5 Shinmei Musashigawa Makushita 2 2000 7 Shinmei Musashigawa Makushita 3 2000 9 Shinmei Musashigawa Makushita 4 2000 11 Shinmei Musashigawa Makushita 5 2001 1 Shinmei Musashigawa Makushita 6 2001 3 Shinmei Musashigawa Makushita 7 2001 5 Shinmei Musashigawa Makushita 8 2001 7 Shinmei Musashigawa Makushita 9 2001 9 Shinmei Musashigawa Makushita 10 2001 11 Shinmei Musashigawa Makushita 11 2002 1 Shinmei Musashigawa Makushita 12 2002 3 Takanoumi Futagoyama Makushita 1 貴ノ湖 2002 5 Musashifuji Musashigawa Makushita 1 武蔵富士 2002 7 Musashifuji Musashigawa Makushita 2 2002 9 Musashifuji Musashigawa Makushita 3 2002 11 Musashifuji Musashigawa Makushita 4 2003 1 Musashifuji Musashigawa Makushita 5 2003 3 Musashifuji Musashigawa Makushita 6 2003 5 Musashifuji Musashigawa Makushita 7 2003 7 Musashifuji Musashigawa Makushita 8 2003 9 Musashifuji Musashigawa Sandanme 9 2003 11 Musashifuji Musashigawa Sandanme 10 2004 1 Ouga Takasago Makushita 1 皇牙 2004 3 Ouga Takasago Makushita 2 2004 5 Ouga Takasago Makushita 3 2004 7 Ouga Takasago Makushita 4 2004 9 Ouga Takasago Makushita 5 2004 11 Ouga Takasago Makushita 6 Edited December 8, 2004 by Jonosuke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,194 Posted December 5, 2004 I included the shikona in kanji as I really don't know their correct reading like I never paid attention to them like Hokutoasahi? Yes, Hokutoasahi is the correct reading. Say, do Japanese in genarally don't really care for exact readings, especially of names and even more especially of first names? This would explain quite a lot to me, because I'm always puzzled when I see names in kanji which clearly have dozens of readings, but noone cares to write furigana; so I'm convinced that even Japanese cannot know the readings... Great post from you! :-D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaihayaiha 0 Posted December 5, 2004 If there were no yokozuna on the banzuke how would the yumifuri be chosen? Would it be a rikishi from the same heya as the eO1? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonosuke 28 Posted December 5, 2004 (edited) If there were no yokozuna on the banzuke how would the yumifuri be chosen? Would it be a rikishi from the same heya as the eO1? Hey a good question. As of the May 1992, Yokozuna Hokutoumi retired and there was no Yokozuna until March of 1993 when Akebono became Yokozuna. When you look at the list, up to July 1992 Hokutoasahi (thanks Doitsuyama) did the Yumitori duty - well they needed to have a new guy to break in during Jungyo tour etc so Azumazeki Beya's Takamiwaka did not take over til September when Akebono was a Haridashi Ozeki. However when you look at the Nagoya (July) Banzuke Akebono was the East Ozeki when they officially selected the new Yumitori. So yes they have gone with a rikishi from East Ozeki 1. Say, do Japanese in genarally don't really care for exact readings, especially of names and even more especially of first names? This would explain quite a lot to me, because I'm always puzzled when I see names in kanji which clearly have dozens of readings, but noone cares to write furigana; so I'm convinced that even Japanese cannot know the readings There is a common reading of certain combination of kanjis based on place names and people's names so by growing up there and being educated there, you begin to acquire a feel for them on how to read them from the context. They actually do put furiganas when the reading is rather uncommon. Place names from Hokkaido or Okinawa are notoriously difficult to figure out it's like the people who live there know how to read them but everyone else has no idea. Shikona names are like that too. Most of us instantly know how to read 追風海 (Hayateumi) but he belongs to Oitekaze Beya (追手風 部屋) - the difference here is not much. There is an extra 手 (te - hand) for Oitekaze and just 海 (umi - ocean) but they do read it totally differently. Now most people who do not follow Ozumo have a difficulty reading one or the other. The two have different readings because they are just names - there is no right or wrong answer for this. So even if most have no idea how to properly read them, if you are following Ozumo, they expect you know them so they don't put furigana here. And this happens just about everywhere and causing some of us "outsiders" so much griefs :-D Edited December 6, 2004 by Jonosuke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kishinoyama 596 Posted December 6, 2004 Another great post from Jonosuke! :-D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sasanishiki 57 Posted December 6, 2004 I am flagrantly copying this idea from someone on the SML who asked about the incentives a yumitori receives for his work. Seemingly the poster thought that the love of sumo etc etc was not enough to lure a lower ranked wrestler to the basho on the days when he is not competing, or to compel him to stick around until the late afternoon on the days that he does have bouts Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zentoryu 154 Posted December 6, 2004 (edited) I am flagrantly copying this idea from someone on the SML who asked about the incentives a yumitori receives for his work. Seemingly the poster thought that the love of sumo etc etc was not enough to lure a lower ranked wrestler to the basho on the days when he is not competing, or to compel him to stick around until the late afternoon on the days that he does have bouts I don't know about any compensation but... I would think that the Yumitori rikishi would, since he belongs to a high profile heya, be a tsukebito to some Sekitori. (Isn't the current one Asashoryu's Tsukebito?) Thus wouldn't he likely have to hang around for the afternoon bouts anyway in order to perform whatever tsukebito duties his sekitori would need him for? Even on days when he doesn't have a scheduled bout? Aside from that, as Joe's list points out, very few of these Yumitori performers advance beyond Makushita. So being asked to perform the ritual is probably the highlight of their respective careers. That would likely be compensation enough. Edited December 6, 2004 by Zentoryu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,543 Posted December 6, 2004 I would think that the Yumitori rikishi would, since he belongs to a high profile heya, be a tsukebito to some Sekitori. (Isn't the current one Asashoryu's Tsukebito?) Actually Jonosuke's post specifically says Ouga is Touki's tsukebito.. And I agree with you totally-it's got to be an honor and the highlight of an otherwise mediocre Makushita's career. Yumifuri? Is this a name used much? I always though it was the yumotorishiki guy, or the Yumitorikishi, as we fondly call him.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Otokonoyama 2,735 Posted December 6, 2004 Yumifuri? Is this a name used much? I always though it was the yumotorishiki guy, or the Yumitorikishi, as we fondly call him.. I think yumifuri is used when referring to the "bow-swinger/bow-twirler" (the man, not the act), and yumitorishiki is used when referring to the ceremony (the action, not the dude). But I could be wrong... :-) I first got the name from a book, used it with Japanese people who were into sumo before I came along, and they had no problem understanding, nor did they correct me :-) That doesn't always mean I'm right :-) as they often let my bad mistakes slide :-D and it's months before I fgure out how badly I've botched my speaking :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yangnomazuma 79 Posted December 6, 2004 they had no problem understanding, nor did they correct me (Nodding yes...) That doesn't always mean I'm right (Clapping wildly...) as they often let my bad mistakes slide :-D and it's months before I fgure out how badly I've botched my speaking (Clapping wildly...) I'm with you there. Too often in Japan/Korea it is so much easier to be simply grateful for us Gaijin/Yangnome actually speaking the language than it is to help us get better by correcting our mistakes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manekineko 200 Posted December 7, 2004 I included the shikona in kanji as I really don't know their correct reading like I never paid attention to them like Hokutoasahi? How unsure you are about the readings? 'Cause I'd like to add these to my Shikona dic (this one) but I try to avoid guesswork... BTW, (Yawning...) for the list - most interesting! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonosuke 28 Posted December 7, 2004 (edited) I included the shikona in kanji as I really don't know their correct reading like I never paid attention to them like Hokutoasahi? How unsure you are about the readings? 'Cause I'd like to add these to my Shikona dic (this one) but I try to avoid guesswork... I agree. I will point out those that I don't feel comfortable with. I could have put their shikona reading off but the shikina readings are not totally out of blue. Many shikonas often come from local and regional points of interest where the rikishis come from so I tried to find any local place name possibly the shikona came from. An example of this is: 1962 1 Unzenyama Nishinoseki Makushita 1 雲仙山 There is an Unzenyama - "Un" is not read like "Un" of "understand" but like "Oon" like "toon". I am comfortable with the "Unzen" part but not about "Yama" as it could have been "San" or "Zan". More or less the same applies to : 1963 9 Katsudayama 1 Kasugano Makushita 1 克田山 Was it "Yama" or "San"? or Was it "Katsuta" rather than "Katsuda". The first kanji also can be read "Koku" as in 克服 (Kokufuku) as in overcoming difficulties. So this is another iffy as I cannot locate the place name for this. 1937 5 Shubonada? Dewanoumi Sandanme from Niiya? 3 周防洋 This one can have a totally different reading I am unaware of though I am not sure what they could be. The last kanji is "Nada" as in TochinoNADA so I am sure that's correct but the first two have actually maby "Suo" (read Sue Oh) as I just found a place name in Yamaguchi Prefecture called "Suo Oshima" (周防大島) so let me changed this to SUONADA in my original list. 1942 1 Shimizui Takasago Makushita 1 清水井 This may be ShimizuNOi - in a way it is easier for a gyoji to pronounce and sound more like a rikishi name but there is a place called "Shimizui" so I am staying with this one as it is. 1941 5 Toyota Wakamatsu Sandanme 1 豊田 This can be ToyoDA - it's a fifty-fifty. 1887 1 Yamanoo Jonidan 山ノ音 This could have had another reading but I have no idea of any other reading of this as I am sure in case of shikona the last kanji would not be read either "Oto" or "On". So aside from Hokutoasahi which I already got the answer for, I am very sure about the others but obviously I did not know of any Shiranomine as Yumitori before. Edited December 7, 2004 by Jonosuke Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,194 Posted December 7, 2004 1887 1 Yamanoo Jonidan 山ノ音This could have had another reading but I have no idea of any other reading of this as I am sure in case of shikona the last kanji would not be read either "Oto" or "On". Firstly, let me say that I'm really relieved that I'm not alone in guessworking shikona readings... Now, to 山ノ音, I would have thought this is Yamanooto or maybe Yamanoto for simplicity. Actually, right now there are Naminooto and Takinooto active in Ozumo, so Yamanooto doesn't sound unlikely to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,543 Posted December 7, 2004 Actually, right now there are Naminooto and Takinooto active in Ozumo, so Yamanooto doesn't sound unlikely to me. Naminooto just retired. Takinooto is very old. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,194 Posted December 7, 2004 Actually, right now there are Naminooto and Takinooto active in Ozumo, so Yamanooto doesn't sound unlikely to me. Naminooto just retired. Takinooto is very old. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ok, correct. So Naminooto is not active anymore, big deal. Doesn't change the readings though. (Bleh!) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,543 Posted December 7, 2004 Actually, right now there are Naminooto and Takinooto active in Ozumo, so Yamanooto doesn't sound unlikely to me. Naminooto just retired. Takinooto is very old. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Ok, correct. So Naminooto is not active anymore, big deal. Doesn't change the readings though. (Bleh!) <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Oh, we must be very accurate, as you probably know.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubiquitoyama 4 Posted December 7, 2004 Thanks for the list (insert great lord smilie here when the smilies feel good again...)! Just one comment (since the readings were discussed here): The shikona of the first rikishi mentioned is probably read Chibagatake. There have been at least a couple such rikishi from Takekuma-beya, for example this Makunouchi rikishi . Btw, are you sure about the year and basho of that first one? It seems odd it's a later year than the following one listed. (Yawning...) Btw, Takayama-san also has it as"Unzen'yama". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonosuke 28 Posted December 8, 2004 The shikona of the first rikishi mentioned is probably read Chibagatake. There have been at least a couple such rikishi from Takekuma-beya, for example this Makunouchi rikishi Actually on this page, he notes that "Chibagatake" was a Yumitori and his dohyo debut to be February, 1861 as a Nidanme and made Makuuchi debut in 1867. So it does fit nicely with the list. As for the year please see below. Btw, are you sure about the year and basho of that first one? It seems odd it's a later year than the following one listed. B-) The year should have been 1866 - an error in converting from Japanese Era year - this was before Meiji so got mixed up, counting backwards. Gettting back to his site as this is an amazing collection of new and old rikishi data - I have a collection of magazines and take hours to flip through the pages to find the exact information listed on this site (but he has way more listed) and not only that it is such a great digest that I wonder why I spent half an hour reading to come up with just about the same information as what's contained on his site. I highly recommend it to anyone interested in rikishi information as well as other sumo data. I guess this is what's great about this place as our collective wisdom (well hopefully from at least those who are interested in this type of things) can come up with something to fill up some vacant sumoscape in English. Thanks everyone and if you find more, I will appreciate more as I am updating my own records too. I will make the corrections on the previous list now but I wonder how I am going to do this for SML people - resend the whole list :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pippooshu 1 Posted November 7, 2009 (edited) I've heard that the rikishi who performs this ceremony at the end of each day of a honbasho is a makushita-level rikishi who is thought not likely to become a sekitori (and is usually from the same ichimon as the top yokozuna).If true, is there any former yumifuri who's broken the jinx and made makunouchi? Gomenasai, but I haven't understood what it means for word "Yumifuri". Can you explain me this? (In a state of confusion...) I think he is the man who practice the Yumitori-Shiki...is it right? Edited November 7, 2009 by Pippooshu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Orion 431 Posted November 8, 2009 I am flagrantly copying this idea from someone on the SML who asked about the incentives a yumitori receives for his work. Seemingly the poster thought that the love of sumo etc etc was not enough to lure a lower ranked wrestler to the basho on the days when he is not competing, or to compel him to stick around until the late afternoon on the days that he does have bouts I haven't asked for an update in years (mea culpa!) but the last time I heard, the yumitorishiki man (who I have never heard referred to in modern times as anything else) was getting 6,000 yen a day. In principle he starts out as a makushita from the lead yokozuna's heya -- but as others have observed, circumstances can alter matters. Quite apart from the modest pay, the final daily performance is a big crowd pleaser and should be sufficient reward in itself. The pathetic Edonohana, who ended up very fat and badly out of condition, was a disgrace to the job, and continued in the post only because of his connections, Orion, currently updating like crazy... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
