sekihiryu 51 Posted November 12, 2004 As a contrast I think Musashimaru is probably the coolest guy ever doing sumo, so impressions definitely vary (Eh?) personality wise yes hes a a cool mellow guy, but I found his sumo style to be awfully one dimensional and tediously boring (granted I only saw him at the end of his career when he was too fat and slow and only bulldozed). It doesnt help he also come from "that" beya. Asashoryu is a punk, but I love his technique and fighting spirit. Shame about his attitude though. Guess you cant win with Yokozunas these days. Any sport is boring if you like everyone, its good to have teams you dont like, it makes it more interesting. Clownowaka bugs me but I will sad to see him finally go, hes the guy I love to hate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ivan Sergeyevich 1 Posted November 12, 2004 If you use the verb to despise, be prepared people actually understand it in its most widely understood meaning. de Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonosuke 28 Posted November 12, 2004 I can be perfectly honest in saying I don't dislike any rikishi as I don't know them personally enough to feel negatively to them. As for their dohyo behaviour I guess that is a little bit different - like I didn't care for Asanowaka's frog-like shikiri or Kitazakura's overt gestures after his bout, but I don't mind Asashoryu picking up kensho envelopes with his left hand or Takamisakari's "performance" before the shikiri. But whenever I read about their life story, I always find something interesting something endearing about them. Those I had a good opportunity to talk to, they were all sincere and courteous to me. I think there is something about "Osumo-san" that makes them so likable, each one of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryukaze 0 Posted November 12, 2004 Dude...trust me when I say this is "the only board" ive posted on and had people get their panties all in a bundle OVER A WORD! lol loosen up son! This is a sumo forum I shouldnt have to worry about feeling like im talking to a bunch of bookworms (for lack of a harsher word, then again if you dont actually do sumo maybe this is the typical fan base?) I wouldnt know lol! ------ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,225 Posted November 12, 2004 Dude...trust me when I say this is "the only board" ive posted on and had people get their panties all in a bundle OVER A WORD! lol loosen up son! This is a sumo forum I shouldnt have to worry about feeling like im talking to a bunch of bookworms (for lack of a harsher word, then again if you dont actually do sumo maybe this is the typical fan base?) I wouldnt know lol! ------ Sigh, I just know I'm going to regret this, but anyway...this board is frequented by people from various countries, most of whom don't have English as their first language. Due to that, it's generally good form for the native English speakers to take care with their writing on this forum, so as not to make things needlessly difficult for the rest of the members. As you've witnessed, your choice of "despise" predictably led to confusion over what you were actually asking. Incidentally, the last member who frequently told everyone to "lighten up" (before he went on to use stronger language) because he couldn't be bothered to follow the established forum etiquette ended up being banned. Oddly enough, he almost had the same cyber-shikona as you, so this has an unfortunate air of d Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Iwagakki 0 Posted November 12, 2004 that is an interesting coincidence, isn't it? hmmm Takanohana was a pretty exciting guy back in the day. At least on the dohyo, he was. The thing about him was that he was such a zombie. And the perception of him really changed around the time of the Rie-chan business. But, see... there's the catch isn't it. Takanohana is a pig headed zombie, who is the downfall of sumo because he's so boring, and because he does everything just the way he is supposed to, and is a slave to the rigormortis/etiquette of Sumo, and shows no expression of any kind when he wins or loses, because he is "brainwashed" to the point that he is a machine, and it has no personal meaning to him. Asashoryu is a arrogant bonehead who is the downfall of sumo because he drinks and tries too hard, and because he has the undignified gall to actually "want" to win, and takes pleasure in doing it. And not only that, he actually wants the others to do their best, and is vocal about his displeasure when they don't. hmmmm Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ivan Sergeyevich 1 Posted November 12, 2004 I'm no mind reader. I take words as they come at me and every word has a more or less precise (and easily attainable) meaning no matter the amount of "lolling" they're accompanied with. It's no more toilsome to be precise in your words than make people guess what you actually meant. What's wrong with bookworms anyway? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryukaze 0 Posted November 12, 2004 (edited) Hey no offense! Certainly not mad either! lol Please do ban me if I ever do swear because it's not possible, especially via internet post/chatting to get me that riled lol. I'll admit i failed to recocgnize the possiblity that there may be members from various countries (why not join a sumo forum of your own language tho?) so if my posting caused any serious confusion "I apologize" never any hard feelings bro's, just having fun so don't take anything too personally, lol PAYCE - Ore p.s. "Asashosakari" I got nothing but love for you playa! ( and your more than welcome in your efforts to rip my posts! even though your a Shory hater lol) and what's all this about a previously banned board member with "ma ma MY shikona???"... lol Anywayz cheers to future posts! (Pulling hair...) Edited November 12, 2004 by Ryukaze Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Needle201 Posted November 12, 2004 Asashoryu... i remember i disliked him the first time i saw im on tv, when he was still a Maegashira.... hasnt changed yet... his whole attitude, the way he looks into the cam after his victories etc...i think he lacks something inside that a real yokozuna should have... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubiquitoyama 4 Posted November 12, 2004 (edited) Dude...trust me when I say this is "the only board" ive posted on and had people get their panties all in a bundle OVER A WORD! lol loosen up son! This is a sumo forum I shouldnt have to worry about feeling like im talking to a bunch of bookworms (for lack of a harsher word, then again if you dont actually do sumo maybe this is the typical fan base?) I wouldnt know lol! ------ No disrespect (eh, I know I shouldn't be using that word really, but it felt appropriate...), but what boards have you been on? In my experience it doesn't even take a word to rile some 9-year-old (at least in maturity) who still pisses in his bed to do everything to kill the message board about 200 times a day on most boards with more than 10 members. Such is life. Also, the number of Swedish language forums about sumo is... eh... limited... As far as I understand not even Japan has a forum of quite this kind, so it's natural people from all over the world with an interest for sumo comes here. The result is that many of us, even with reasonable English skills, are not completely comfortable with the language and its nuances. I find myself often sounding much grimmer than I intended when trying to write something in English, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. It's just how it is and it usually works anyway. Btw, both Kotoseiya who started this forum and Kaikitsune who is the current keeper are Finnish... Edited November 12, 2004 by Yubiquitoyama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomoe 0 Posted November 12, 2004 (edited) (why not join a sumo forum of your own language tho?) Ok, there is a very good german sumoforum, but why should I limit myself on this, if english speaking people have something interesting to say too (Pulling hair...) And english is spoken all over this planet, german definitely not. If we haven't our favourites and the opposite as well, we would act like Takanohana (whom I personally like less than his brother), nearly without any emotions. That' sounds pretty boaring to me. I want to suffer with my personal heros and to enjoy the fall of the guys I dislike. This has absolutly nothing to do with the personality of this Rikishi's. My choice is subjective, probably unfair and based only one my limited insight and knowledge. In some cases it will change in others it will stay adamt for the whole time of a rikishi's career (for example I always liked Takanonami and ever will). Edited November 12, 2004 by Tomoe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phelix 0 Posted November 12, 2004 i DESPISE aminishiki Why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KIKENNA 0 Posted November 12, 2004 As a contrast I think Musashimaru is probably the coolest guy ever doing sumo, so impressions definitely vary I agree. (Punk rocker...) Takanohana's attitude was really irritating from time to time and i never could like him. On my opinion Takanohana's attitude is 100% of what a yokozuna attitude is all about. In my book Takanohana Koji did everything humanly possible 100% right. I doubt I'll ever see anyone like him in my life (Sign of approval) Same here Sergejevich. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubiquitoyama 4 Posted November 12, 2004 Takanohana's attitude was really irritating from time to time and i never could like him. On my opinion Takanohana's attitude is 100% of what a yokozuna attitude is all about. Oh, I don't disagree there (although maybe not 100 per cent). Even so, or maybe just because of that, I had a difficulty with him. Ah well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tomoe 0 Posted November 12, 2004 On my opinion Takanohana's attitude is 100% of what a yokozuna attitude is all about. That is not only right, it is the reason for being irritated in his attitude too. In his best bashos it was realy depressing for his oponents and the audience as well. His oponents tried hard but Taka found his grip and...he won with or without resitance. He looked a bit like a superhuman sometimes (Punk rocker...) Admirable but not realy loveable Nevertheless his style and manners should be one of the everlasting good examples for real Yokozuna behaviour. I like Asa very much, but if we could transfer a bit of "Takanohananess" in him, the result would sometimes improve his way of acting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kashunowaka 300 Posted November 12, 2004 Dude...trust me when I say this is "the only board" ive posted on and had people get their panties all in a bundle OVER A WORD! lol loosen up son! This is a sumo forum I shouldnt have to worry about feeling like im talking to a bunch of bookworms (for lack of a harsher word, then again if you dont actually do sumo maybe this is the typical fan base?) I wouldnt know lol! ------ Right on the money - "dude". (Punk rocker...) You will find a lot of us bookworms here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fujisan 533 Posted November 12, 2004 I will second the vote for Takanohana he was far too full of himself for my liking,reminded me of Bolo yeungs character in Bloodsport-I kept expecting hiim to blow through his nostrels whenever he appeared. If thats how a Yokozuna should act,no wonder Asashoryu does his own thing. B-) (Punk rocker...) Cant argue with his record though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Takemi 0 Posted November 12, 2004 You know you have at least one! You know the guy who every time he stpes on the dohyo you just want to see him get blasted down and out! I will say Asashoryu, hey before you all want to kill me hear me out. I like him and he is awesome but everytime he steps up on that dohyo I want him to lose thats just the way it is and whois with me? admit it you people who not are hardcore asa fans are happy as h*ll when he loses am I not right? for example when hoku broke is all winning streak run, I went crazy! Allthough last basho he perhaps lost a little to much the first three four times I was rather satisfied then I begun to worry. So to sum it up, I like to see him lose in a fair amont I guess at the end of the day he is allrigth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,225 Posted November 12, 2004 Any sport is boring if you like everyone Probably depends on the fan, but for me it's not at all like that; I tend to be fan of the sport first, and of individual competitors second. As far as sumo is concerned, while I'm mildly disinterested in some rikishi, I do enjoy watching a whole lot of others, and it really doesn't take much more than a decent performance on the dohyo to keep me interested, even in the lower divisions. So I can find something or somebody interesting in pretty much any bout, even without needing to root against anybody. I just root for the guy I enjoy watching more. (Clapping wildly...) Now, if only I had the eye for all the bout details like Kaikitsune does... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ilovesumo 12 Posted November 14, 2004 :-D OTSUKASA :-) Because he was the one with the HARD skull, tooo hard for Kotomitsuki's jaw... (Heart) Musoyama (Heart) !!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jesinofuji 11 Posted November 14, 2004 (edited) Miyabiyama, he's a fetid bloated carcas and as graceful as a hog on ice. Followed closely by Asanowaka for the crap he pulled on Futenoh Edited November 15, 2004 by Jesinofuji Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burainoan 0 Posted November 14, 2004 Followed closely by Asanowaka for the crap he pulled in Futenoh (Yikes...) (Yikes...) (Yikes...) Ouch! sounds painful! hope he didn't do it in public.... :-D Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sumofan 6 Posted November 14, 2004 ...reminded me of Bolo yeungs character in Bloodsport-I kept expecting hiim to blow through his nostrels whenever he appeared. That is just the best martial arts film ever. i saw that movie about 100 times. The story is good, van Damme still had a lean body and the music was great. btw i am not only a bookworm, but also a computer-geek. i also wish people would stop using the overused 'lol' and 'rotfl'. i mean, its not like you where really lauging out loud, or rolling on the floor laughing. perhaps you were just smiling. then use a smiley. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zenjimoto 40 Posted November 15, 2004 (edited) This may come as a surprise, but I don't particularly care for Kotomitsuki. He may be all shy and quiet in the interviews, but I don't like his attitude on the dohyo. I don't think I EVER saw him make any effort to help his fallen opponent up, show any concern for any one who has just horribly fallen off the dohyo, or lies next to him in pain. I like such little gestures of sportsmanship, and he doesn't seem to have any, instead it completely self-absorbed. Toki I also don't find very inspiring, his skills and style are simply SO monotonous, and sometimes he is simply completely lackluster. He is also somewhat physically repulsive... I think the sideburns are often really untidy looking, but OK, it's his trademark, sort of (Blushing...) Chiyotaikai is a bit like Kotomitsuki in attitude, and like Toki in style. He will push like hell at first, then try to pull the opponent down - spectacular if he pushes them all the way out, but anoying and boring when he pulls, as he so often does, despite every time reiterating that he doesn't want to do that sort of sumo... pffff... Takamisakari used to be likeable before he became the hottest thing since Tamagochi. These days he annoys me terribly, not because of his antics, which I like, or his awkwardness, which is still endearing, but because of his complete and utter unpredictability, which is a HUGE nuissance when you try to make your daily picks. He'll beat sanyaku for two days, and then lose to friggin' Tochisakae the next. He'll drop 3 straight against Hiramaku and then collect 2 ginboshi in a row.. you get the idea. A pain, and he has cost me MANY MANY points in the daily games to the point where I stay FAR away from him. And yes, Musoyama is also annoying for being SO disappointing. Look for him to pull out another 8-7 this basho, and then once more go kyujo next time. YAWN... make room for a young lion Ozeki already! Oh well, at least he provides good ginboshi fodder for speculation in various sumo games that reward them with bonuses (Clapping wildly...) Cheers Zenjimoto Edited November 15, 2004 by Zenjimoto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Heitaikai 0 Posted November 15, 2004 This may come as a surprise, but I don't particularly care for Kotomitsuki. He may be all shy and quiet in the interviews, but I don't like his attitude on the dohyo. I don't think I EVER saw him make any effort to help his fallen opponent up, show any concern for any one who has just horribly fallen off the dohyo, or lies next to him in pain. No? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites