Rikishi you "DISLIKE" the most! (past or present)

[Ryukaze 0]

You know you have at least one! You know the guy who every time he stpes on the dohyo you just want to see him get blasted down and out! I'll start by saying Toki! This guy barely has enough fighting spirit to smother a bug! ( inspite of his corpulence) And he does the same technique every bout with his weaksauce nodowa! (if you wanna call it that) winning just enough against those who are in turn corpulent enough to loose their balance and fall flat on their "breasts" (I dont think ive ever actually seen him thrust anyone out with it) either way, I hope he drops clear outta sight! Definately doesnt belong anywhere near makuuchi! And if you happen to be a Toki fan reading this "Break yourself"! lol

p.s. I will say one positive thing about him, I dig the old-school sideburns, but Takanotsuru's got em also and he deserves to sport them much more than his evil twin! Plop! lol

Edited November 11, 2004 by Ryukaze

[Phelix 0]

Well, I shalln

[aderechelsea 125]

no despise here either but Takamisakari gets on my nerves from time to time ......

i could also add Assanowaka whose antics are really annoying ...

[Gusoyama 104]

Many people here know this about me: Musoyama.

I just think he's a sad waste of Ozekihood.

[sekihiryu 51]

My intense dislike of clownowaka...ahem Asanowaka has been noted before.

The two most winning techniques for him are Hatakikomi and Hikiotoshi (Sign of disapproval)

Aside form clownboy you can add pretty much the entire stable of Musashigawa, there is something about that stable, apart from Dejima the whole Beya sucks for me (Jumping on the other guy...) (Hitting with chair...) :-D

Edited November 10, 2004 by sekihiryu

[Ryukaze 0]

Ok ok maybe "despise" was the wrong word here lol! It's not like I have any personal hatred for the man, simply put his sumo sucks and his "kanto" is pathetic! lol nuff said....also is there much of a difference between the sumo of Asanowaka and Kyokushuzan???

[Iwagakki 0]

In all the time I have followed sumo, I have never really disliked any of them, until lately. When Asashoryu got DQ'd because he pulled 'Shuzan's hair, I was surprised that he would do something like that, but in the heat of battle, things happen, I figured. What happened right afterwards did give me a rikishi to dislike. 'Shuzan standing there trying to look as pitiful as possible and pointing forlornly at his damaged mage, that just pissed me off. What a whiner, what a crock, what a pathetic display....

anyway, ever since then, I can't see one of his matches without kinda hoping he gets picked up and bodyslammed in the most embarrassing way possible. Kinda like the way Asashoryu did to Hoku that one time. I mean, I would probably even root for Saltozakura in a match against 'Shuzan.

Oh, man, don't get me started on Saltozakura...

[Yubiquitoyama 4]

I agree with the above that "despise" is a very strong word and can't really be used here. I like a whole lot of rikishi, are more or less indifferent to a number and more dislike than like (but very far from dispise) another few. The latter cathegory includes Kyokushuzan, Asashoryu, Chiyotenzan, and among retired rikishi mainly Takanohana and Takatoriki, not in any particular order and for various reasons. There are probably others, but not that I can think of at the moment.

[Tomoe 0]

I to agree, that "despise" is to strong and schould not be used in this context.

But i think that everybody who has favorites has somebody on the other side as well.

In my particular case, I dislike the whole Musashigawa Team (exept Dejima) for their lack of fighting spirit. In most cases you never know if they are there, because their oyakata had told them to do so or because they wanted to be their and win.

And it makes me always happy to see when someone gets a lot of money for beating Robomisakari. A sign of bad character, but I can't resist it (Laughing...)

[Manekineko 200]

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The author of the thread - in this case Ryukaze - can always edit the title of the thread by editing his first post. That is, if he agrees that "despise" is too strong term, which could be replaced by "dislike", for example.

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[sekihiryu 51]

you can add pretty much the entire stable of Musashigawa, there is something about that stable, apart from Dejima the whole Beya sucks for me

by me

In my particular case, I dislike the whole Musashigawa Team (exept Dejima) for their lack of fighting spirit

by Tomoe

Wow! great minds think a like huh Tomoe? I didnt even realize they were all from the same Heya until I started getting serious about following sumo last year.

Its interesting because while I dislike nearly the entire Musashigawa roster I generally like everyone from Sadogatake, anyone with a harp (koto) is good with me.

[Otokonoyama 2,735]

Musashigawa-beya seems to follow a philosophy of size over skill. It's painful to watch guys like Miyabadabado waddle up onto the dohyo for makuuchi dohyo-iri. And that "old dog peeing" shiko (or shall we say shikko). Like they say, "those who live by the smorg, die by the smorg"! (Blowing up furiously...)

[Hakuyobaku 33]

I think Miyabiyama is a rather honest and so to say rikishi with fighting spirit.

As to size over skills philosophy, remember the Hawaiians.

[Otokonoyama 2,735]

I think Miyabiyama is a rather honest and so to say rikishi with fighting spirit.

As to size over skills philosophy, remember the Hawaiians.

Oh yeah, the Hawaiians...like Musashimaru. Remind me, which heya did he belong to (Blowing up furiously...)

[asa_love 0]

i DESPISE aminishiki

[asa_love 0]

i also DESPISE chiyotenzan

i think touki is OK!! i love asasekiryu & kyokutenho & asashoryu ( i just happen to like quite a lot of the mongolians) but

i hate kyokushuzan!! (same reason as iwagakki-- about the asashoryu pulling hair incident)

[Kashunowaka 300]

i DESPISE aminishiki

I agree with the above posters in that I cannot see how anyone can "despise" a rikishi. Despise literally means "look down upon" and (at least for me) connotes a very strong feeling of disdain. (Blowing up furiously...) There are a couple that I don't care much for, but I'll leave it at that.

[Fujisan 533]

Its gotta be Sekiwake wannabe Musoyama-

The MK yoyo as got to go. (Sign of disapproval)

[KIKENNA 0]

and among retired rikishi mainly Takanohana and Takatoriki, not in any particular order and for various reasons.

I never realized there could be someone who dislikes/ed Takanohana! ;-)

Could you name few of those reasons?

Just curious... Very.

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As for me- I never liked Musashimaru. Just didn't like his "techinque". I actually think he rarely displayed yokozuna power (at least in a way I think of yokozuna power) and everything else that comes with being a Y.

I was really glad when he retired.

[Yubiquitoyama 4]

and among retired rikishi mainly Takanohana and Takatoriki, not in any particular order and for various reasons.

I never realized there could be someone who dislikes/ed Takanohana! ;-)

Could you name few of those reasons?

Just curious... Very.

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As for me- I never liked Musashimaru. Just didn't like his "techinque". I actually think he rarely displayed yokozuna power (at least in a way I think of yokozuna power) and everything else that comes with being a Y.

I was really glad when he retired.

It's not really clear to me WHAT I dislike about Takanohana, but it's definitely there and has been for some years. As a first, I'm no real fan of his sumo style, but more than that what I really dislike is his "attitude", although I'm at a loss to better describe what I mean.

Note that much of my view on Takanohana came during the days he was handled quite roughly in media with his supposed fallout with his brother, the infamous "brainwashing chiropractor" and the whole affair with his first fiancee (whose name I don't remember) ).

He did in no way better his standing with me after this latest Sendagawa business, which I think he handled pretty much as bad as humanly possible (even IF Akinoshima is evil impersonated, which frankly I doubt). (Applauding...)

As a contrast I think Musashimaru is probably the coolest guy ever doing sumo, so impressions definitely vary :-P

[aderechelsea 125]

i have to second on Yubi's comments over here ...

Takanohana's attitude was really irritating from time to time and i never could like him.

on the other hand Musashimaru is the rikishi i could identify myself to the most.Great power concealed under a chill-out attitude ....

he is one of the reasons i got interested in sumo ...

[Ivan Sergeyevich 1]

his first fiancee (whose name I don't remember)

Rie Miyazawa.

In my book Takanohana Koji did everything humanly possible 100% right. I doubt I'll ever see anyone like him in my life (which coincidentally won't statistically be long anyway ;-) ).

[Itachi 396]

I think Miyabiyama is a rather honest and so to say rikishi with fighting spirit.

As to size over skills philosophy, remember the Hawaiians.

? Miyabiyama certainly started out with lots of fighting spirit but once he earned his Ozeki promotion that seemed to vanish. It is possible that he was truly doing the best he could given his nagging injury - that shoulder welt that refused to go away may have really started to cramp his style - but as far as I could see, he was just resting on his laurels.

About a year ago he started showing signs of returning to some kind of competitive form and perhaps the situation with his father's illness helped to inspire him to make more of himself. I hope he continues as I enjoyed watching him power his way to the top in the first place but I must say I've been often disappointed in him for the most part since he made Ozeki.

Rikishi I tend to root against are usually ones like Miyabiyama who appear to be solid up and coming future sanyaku only to suddenly and without obvious reason tumble pathetically down to Juryo or below and then occaisionally tease us with a brief reappearance now and then. Tochinohana is a good example of that. He really did seem competitive when he first made it to Makuuchi. Takanowaka made it back in my good books only to be slapped silly by Kotomitsuki and return to Juryo yoyo-dom. Hayateumi and Tochisakae apparantly have verifiable persistent injury excuses but I really dislike Chiyotenzan.

Remember when there was a fuss about abuse of lower ranked rikishi in Kokonoe-beya? I developped a hunch that Chiyotenzan was the loser responsible and whether or not it's true, I enjoy seeing him lose. He looked pretty good a long time ago when he followed Chiyotaikai up the banzuke but where did that ability go?

Itachi

p.s. I fully sympathize with Takanohana dislikers. It sounded like he was both a fool and a jerk around the time of his brainwashing. He wasn't associating with his family and wasn't staying at the heya with his heya mates. I just thought 'who does this guy think he is?'

If he thought he was god's gift to sumo - I suppose it's difficult to argue but I didn't like the attitude.

p.p.s. I believe it's our perogative as fans to like or dislike the performers but ultimately, they are just players on a stage and there are roles to be filled by the less admirable as much as there are roles for heroes (and underdogs). I'm sure if I got to know the men I would find myself changing my mind about who to like or not.

[Amanogawa 79]

I cannot see how anyone can "despise" a rikishi. Despise literally means "look down upon" and (at least for me) connotes a very strong feeling of disdain. (Eh?)

Totally agreed with Kashu-zeki here.... I myself do have a couple rikishi I do not like, but "dispise"...?

@asa_love

i DESPISE aminishiki

And of course the next question is why do you dispise Aminishiki? (Blushing...) Chiyotenzan? (Just do not get it...)

Edited November 12, 2004 by Amanogawa

[Ryukaze 0]

Goodness gracious ok lets just try "rikishi you dont like" I was just using the word "dispise" as a figure of speech so lets not get too carried away here "Oh gosh I could never despise anyone" C'mon lighten up people! lol -

Edited November 12, 2004 by Ryukaze