Akinomaki 41,747 Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) All 10 passed the initial check and wait for the results of the medicals, announced on day 1 the focus is on Byambasuren (18, 185cm, 107kg) for Tatsunami o ooo o after the check oo oo o o o o o o to the standard question he repeated what he said before: "Yokozuna? Yes, I want to become the strongest rikishi." He won't start at the Kyushu basho so no need for a shikona yet, but he wants to use his uncle's -ryu 龍 Edited November 1, 2017 by Akinomaki 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,747 Posted November 1, 2017 3 from the Saitama Sakae sumo club are in the group for Kyushu - Naya would have been the 4th. Former middle school yokozuna Tsukahara 塚原 (18, 190cm, 141kg) Tebakari 手計富士紀 (18, 188cm, 144kg) from Chiba pref. for Sadogatake Mitsumune 光宗泰成 (18, 172cm, 106kg) from Kochi pref. for Onomatsu http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20171101/sum17110118160005-n1.html 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shimodahito 336 Posted November 1, 2017 (edited) On 8/6/2017 at 06:54, Asashosakari said: Asashoryu's 18-year-old nephew Byambasuren indecipherable-patronymic (スカラグチャー・ビャンバスレン *) This is my hunch: In Mongolian, Сүхрагчаа Бяамбасүрэн. In Roman alpha, Sükhragchaa Byambasüren. Edited November 2, 2017 by shimodahito Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,148 Posted November 2, 2017 While there are no hits on Google for the Romanization suggested, there are plenty (and are likely names since there's Facebook pages there) if you remove that accent from the ü. If it was supposed to be there, I'd expect at least *something* to show up on Google, but it returned a big fat zero. The Cyrillic has similar hits on Facebook, so it appears to be a reasonably common name. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shimodahito 336 Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) Since 2012, the Mongolian official Latinization uses "u" and "ü" to distinguish between the Mongolian Cyrillic "у" and "ү" respectively. However you will see "u" used for both as you do with googling the more common Sükhbaatar and Sukhbaatar. Sükhragchaa/Сүхрагчаа is a rare combination in Mongolia. The next step is to confirm if it's his name, or his father's name. If it's his father's name, a suffix would also be added (Сүхрагчаагийн). Much of the DB is incorrect in this regard, but a project is underway to fix. NOTE: if you google "Сухрагчаа" it also show up, but only on Russian web sites because Russian Cyrillic doesn't have the "ү" letter in their alphabet. Edited November 2, 2017 by shimodahito 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,747 Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) Nothing else but Byambasuren in the morning papers - and I don't remember seeing the results of that many other checks reported as well before for a new recruit http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20171102/sum17110205030001-n3.html lung capacity: 5700cc o handgrip power: right 59kg, left 60kg - "I was nervous. Usually it's 70kg for both hands." dorsal muscle strength: 146kg o o o o o o happy uncle o the NSK show another as well, but without a name o o o Edited November 2, 2017 by Akinomaki 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,482 Posted November 2, 2017 (edited) I've been impressed the skill Byamba showed as an amateur, and despite apparently having just a year or two of sumo experience (with a wrestling background I believe) and typically facing significant weight disadvantages, he quickly rose to be one of the top names in high school amasumo with his 2nd and 3rd place finishes at the Interhigh and Kokutai. His lack of weight struck me as being as big of a factor as anything else in most of his losses, and I think he has very good potential. You can see his Interhigh matches from the round of 32 on at 29:00, 52:00, 1:13:10, 1:24:45, 1:32:25: Edited November 2, 2017 by Katooshu 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inhashi 2,363 Posted November 3, 2017 On 11/2/2017 at 11:52, Akinomaki said: Nothing else but Byambasuren in the morning papers - and I don't remember seeing the results of that many other checks reported as well before for a new recruit http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20171102/sum17110205030001-n3.html lung capacity: 5700cc handgrip power: right 59kg, left 60kg - "I was nervous. Usually it's 70kg for both hands." dorsal muscle strength: 146kg News clips from Nstar https://youtu.be/ccSx4EUYgWs and Tokudane! https://youtu.be/lwAjU6RTbCQ Similarities with Uncle Dorji in the cheekbones and eyes 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naganoyama 6,024 Posted November 12, 2017 NSK data: SHIKONA KANJI NAME HEYA HEIGHT WEIGHT DOB BIRTHPLACE Byambasuren ビャンバスレン Byambasuren Sugarragchaa Tatsunami 185 107 22 - May - 1999 Mongolia Kimura 木村 Kimura Yuki Isegahama 174 134 04 - May - 1999 Aomori Mitsumune 光宗 Mitsumune Taisei Ounomatsu 172 106 20 - August - 1999 Saitama Murakami 村上 Murakami Naoto Isegahama 176 109 26 - April - 1999 Aichi Omote 面 Omote Kiyoshi Takadagawa 176 102 11 - October - 1999 Osaka Ozono 大園 Ozono Yuma Isegahama 170 109 18 - December - 1999 Kagoshima Takagi 高木 Takagi Daiki Isegahama 175 91 02 - December - 1999 Kanagawa Tebakari 手計 Tebakari Toshiki Sadogatake 188 144 26 - August - 1999 Chiba Tsukahara 塚原 Tsukahara Takaaki Kasugano 190 141 12 - October - 1999 Saitama Watanabe 渡部 Watanabe Ren Oguruma 180 110 02 - June - 1997 Akita 6 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubinhaad 11,958 Posted November 15, 2017 Great to see that Satoiazuma is back in action at last following a two-year injury absence. I hope he can soon fight his way out of the persistence watch too. Other returnees in this maezumo group are Wakaseiun and Fukuda, both of whom dropped off the banzuke just last basho. Isegahama-beya's Murakami comes from a rugby background, most recently at Seiryo High School in the Nishi ward of Nagoya, Aichi prefecture. I'm betting he's the one named Shachinofuji (鯱ノ富士) in maezumo here. His stablemate Ozono comes from the wrestling club of Kanoyachuo High School in Kanoya, Kagoshima. He lost 2-0 in the first round of the Greco-Roman 120kg division (of his age group, I think) just over a month ago in the Kokutai. I believe he is the one named Osumifuji (大隅富士) - Kanoya is located on the Osumi peninsula in Kagoshima prefecture. Takadagawa-beya's Omote has taken the shikona "Tenei" (天惠). 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,223 Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) That answered most of my open questions about the shikona, many thanks. Trying to puzzle through the yobidashi and gyoji pronunciations was a bear again... Indeed we've got the aforementioned three banzuke-gai returnees Wakaseiun, Satoiazuma and Fukuda in the mix, plus last basho's Mongolian entrant Ankhbayar (Yōshōyama 陽翔山) for Tokitsukaze-beya after his one-basho waiting period, plus the 9 new domestic entrants. And with plenty of adopted shikona right away: Kimura -> Kiminofuji (probably?) Takagi -> Shūfuji (totally wild guess) Ozono -> Ōsumifuji (per above) Murakami -> Shachinofuji (per above) Omote -> Tenei (per above) Tebakari -> Kototebakari 琴手計 (obviously) Day 3 Results: Mz1 Wakaseiun (0-1) Mz2 Satoiazuma (1-0)Mz3 Fukuda (0-1) Mz4 Yoshoyama (1-0)Mz5 Kiminofuji (1-0) Mz9 Tenei (0-1)Mz6 Shinfuji (0-1) Mz10 Mitsumune (1-0)Mz7 Osumifuji (0-1) Mz11 Tsukahara (1-0)Mz8 Shachinofuji (0-1) Mz12 Kototebakari (1-0)Mz1 Wakaseiun (0-2) Mz13 Watanabe (1-0) Standings: Mz2 Satoiazuma Tamanoi 1-0 | Mz1 Wakaseiun Chiganoura 0-2Mz4 Yoshoyama Tokitsukaze 1-0 | Mz3 Fukuda Kise 0-1Mz5 Kiminofuji Isegahama 1-0 | Mz6 Shinfuji Isegahama 0-1Mz10 Mitsumune Onomatsu 1-0 | Mz7 Osumifuji Isegahama 0-1Mz11 Tsukahara Kasugano 1-0 | Mz8 Shachinofuji Isegahama 0-1Mz12 Kototebakari Sadogatake 1-0 | Mz9 Tenei Takadagawa 0-1Mz13 Watanabe Oguruma 1-0 Edited November 24, 2017 by Asashosakari 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,223 Posted November 15, 2017 (edited) Day 4 Shachinofuji was absent today, no idea why as there didn't seem to be any particular possible reason in his Day 3 bout. Results: Mz3 Fukuda (1-1) Mz1 Wakaseiun (0-3)Mz6 Shinfuji (1-1) Mz9 Tenei (0-2)Mz7 Osumifuji (1-1) Mz2 Satoiazuma (1-1)Mz5 Kiminofuji (1-1) Mz4 Yoshoyama (2-0)Mz10 Mitsumune (1-1) Mz11 Tsukahara (2-0)Mz13 Watanabe (1-1) Mz12 Kototebakari (2-0) That was a bit of work for Yoshoyama. Mitsumune and Tsukahara in the first meeting between two of the three Saitama Sakae grads. Standings: Mz4 Yoshoyama Tokitsukaze 2-0 | Mz2 Satoiazuma Tamanoi 1-1 | Mz1 Wakaseiun Chiganoura 0-3Mz11 Tsukahara Kasugano 2-0 | Mz3 Fukuda Kise 1-1 | Mz8 Shachinofuji Isegahama 0-1-1Mz12 Kototebakari Sadogatake 2-0 | Mz5 Kiminofuji Isegahama 1-1 | Mz9 Tenei Takadagawa 0-2 Mz6 Shinfuji Isegahama 1-1 Mz7 Osumifuji Isegahama 1-1 Mz10 Mitsumune Onomatsu 1-1 Mz13 Watanabe Oguruma 1-1 Be interesting to see which of the three frontrunners gets the easier matchup against a 1-1 guy. Edited November 24, 2017 by Asashosakari 5 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
specialweek 2 138 Posted November 16, 2017 Are we sure it is Yoshoyama? I was told Yoshozan. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,179 Posted November 16, 2017 4 hours ago, specialweek 2 said: Are we sure it is Yoshoyama? I was told Yoshozan. You were told wrong. On the video I uploaded yesterday, the hiragana says Yoshouyama. Oh, and the announcer-he also says Yoshouyama. Yoshouyama it is. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,223 Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) Day 5 Results: Mz4 Yoshoyama (3-0) Mz11 Tsukahara (2-1)Mz3 Fukuda (1-2) Mz12 Kototebakari (3-0)Mz5 Kiminofuji (2-1) Mz2 Satoiazuma (1-2)Mz6 Shinfuji (2-1) Mz13 Watanabe (1-2)Mz7 Osumifuji (1-2) Mz10 Mitsumune (2-1)Mz1 Wakaseiun (1-3) Mz9 Tenei (0-3) Nice highlight bout with Yoshoyama and Tsukahara to start things off, and the last two were pretty nifty as well. No contest in the other three though. As always I'm impressed when they actually make efforts to avoid repeating matchups, as they seemingly did here by having Watanabe go before Mitsumune on the West side (in order to avoid doing Shinfuji-Mitsumune again which already happened on Day 3). Standings: 3-win target achieved:#01 Mz4 Yoshoyama Tokitsukaze 3-0#02 Mz12 Kototebakari Sadogatake 3-0 Still active: Mz5 Kiminofuji Isegahama 2-1 | Mz1 Wakaseiun Chiganoura 1-3 | Mz8 Shachinofuji Isegahama 0-1-2 Mz6 Shinfuji Isegahama 2-1 | Mz2 Satoiazuma Tamanoi 1-2 | Mz9 Tenei Takadagawa 0-3 Mz10 Mitsumune Onomatsu 2-1 | Mz3 Fukuda Kise 1-2 Mz11 Tsukahara Kasugano 2-1 | Mz7 Osumifuji Isegahama 1-2 Mz13 Watanabe Oguruma 1-2 Still plenty of guys left, so I'm guessing tomorrow won't be the last day just yet. Edited November 24, 2017 by Asashosakari 4 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,482 Posted November 16, 2017 (edited) Has there been anything new on Yoshoyama's competitive background? His uncle is reported as a yokozuna in Mongolian wrestling but I can't find much about the man himself, and when I checked his Twitter about a month back there was little to nothing about sumo or Mongolian wrestling from what I could see. Edited November 16, 2017 by Katooshu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,223 Posted November 16, 2017 According to his alma mater Kibogaoka HS he competed in the individuals of the 2016 Inter-High sumo tournament, but wasn't part of the school's team that also represented Fukuoka prefecture. Incidentally, I should probably take back calling them "a regional sumo powerhouse" in the Aki thread - that same blurb says it was the first time in 57 years that they were representing Fukuoka. Unfortunately, because the tournament results at http://kirokukensaku.net/ always get scrubbed after a year I have no idea how he did in the Inter-High, and his school also doesn't say. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubinhaad 11,958 Posted November 16, 2017 55 minutes ago, Asashosakari said: According to his alma mater Kibogaoka HS he competed in the individuals of the 2016 Inter-High sumo tournament, but wasn't part of the school's team that also represented Fukuoka prefecture. Incidentally, I should probably take back calling them "a regional sumo powerhouse" in the Aki thread - that same blurb says it was the first time in 57 years that they were representing Fukuoka. Unfortunately, because the tournament results at http://kirokukensaku.net/ always get scrubbed after a year I have no idea how he did in the Inter-High, and his school also doesn't say. Is this (PDF) the right one? If I'm looking at the right bits, it looks like he lost his first qualifying bout (against a compatriot called Amarusanaa?, アマルサナー), then won the next two to book his place in the last 32. There it seems he ran into none other than Asashoryu's nephew Byambasuren, who won by uwatenage. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,482 Posted November 16, 2017 I think Byamba's match in the round of 32 is at 6:12, although that doesnt look like Yoshoyama. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,223 Posted November 16, 2017 49 minutes ago, Yubinhaad said: Is this (PDF) the right one? If I'm looking at the right bits, it looks like he lost his first qualifying bout (against a compatriot called Amarusanaa?, アマルサナー), then won the next two to book his place in the last 32. There it seems he ran into none other than Asashoryu's nephew Byambasuren, who won by uwatenage. Thanks, I didn't realize/remember they're producing tournament booklets. Looks like the Ankhbayar - Byambasuren matchup was in the last 64, the table is a bit confusingly titled. Tough draws there with his two losses, Amarsanaa has also featured quite prominently over in the ama section of late. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted November 16, 2017 Asashosakari; I noticed the 3 returnees are Mz1 to Mz3 and the Mongolian, who had to sit out a basho, is Mz4. Do they always do this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,223 Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) Day 6 Results: Mz5 Kiminofuji (2-2) Mz10 Mitsumune (3-1)Mz6 Shinfuji (3-1) Mz11 Tsukahara (2-2)Mz1 Wakaseiun (2-3) Mz2 Satoiazuma (1-3)Mz3 Fukuda (2-2) Mz9 Tenei (0-4)Mz7 Osumifuji (1-3) Mz13 Watanabe (2-2) Mz5 Kiminofuji (2-3) Mz11 Tsukahara (3-2) A very entertaining session today, including Shinfuji's excellent upset of Tsukahara. The latter looked suitably annoyed and proceeded to make short work of Kiminofuji in the extra bout given to the losing 2-win guys. Returnees Wakaseiun and Satoiazuma were matched up again, and Wakaseiun managed to take revenge for his Day 3 loss. Standings: 3-win target achieved:#01 Mz4 Yoshoyama Tokitsukaze 3-0#02 Mz12 Kototebakari Sadogatake 3-0#03 Mz10 Mitsumune Onomatsu 3-1#04 Mz6 Shinfuji Isegahama 3-1#05 Mz11 Tsukahara Kasugano 3-2 Still active: Mz1 Wakaseiun Chiganoura 2-3 | Mz2 Satoiazuma Tamanoi 1-3 | Mz8 Shachinofuji Isegahama 0-1-3 Mz3 Fukuda Kise 2-2 | Mz7 Osumifuji Isegahama 1-3 | Mz9 Tenei Takadagawa 0-4 Mz5 Kiminofuji Isegahama 2-3 Mz13 Watanabe Oguruma 2-2 Should be one more day. I hope Tenei gets to enjoy a victory tomorrow, because he's certainly looking better than the usual winless guys we get down here and 0-5 would be quite undeserved. Edited January 18, 2018 by Asashosakari 4 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,482 Posted November 17, 2017 (edited) A little off key there at 5:37....I think I saw the shimpan and the other yobidashi trying to hold back smiles Edited November 17, 2017 by Katooshu 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubinhaad 11,958 Posted November 17, 2017 14 hours ago, Katooshu said: A little off key there at 5:37....I think I saw the shimpan and the other yobidashi trying to hold back smiles Urakaze had to wipe away tears at the end. 5 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,223 Posted November 18, 2017 (edited) Day 7 Results: Mz3 Fukuda (3-2) Mz1 Wakaseiun (2-4)Mz5 Kiminofuji (2-4) Mz13 Watanabe (3-2)Mz7 Osumifuji (2-3) Mz2 Satoiazuma (1-4)Mz5 Kiminofuji (3-4) Mz1 Wakaseiun (2-5)Mz7 Osumifuji (3-3) Mz9 Tenei (0-5) With the big guns already through, the quality of the sumo on display took a bit of a step back, but still lots of enthusiasm on the part of the seven remaining competitors. The schedule went largely as I expected, although I thought they would put the loser of Osumifuji-Satoiazuma against Tenei to make up the numbers. Lucky break for Osumifuji who got (and took) the opportunity to get to 3 wins after all. The final standings: 3-win target achieved:#01 Mz4 Yoshoyama Tokitsukaze 3-0#02 Mz12 Kototebakari Sadogatake 3-0#03 Mz10 Mitsumune Onomatsu 3-1#04 Mz6 Shinfuji Isegahama 3-1#05 Mz11 Tsukahara Kasugano 3-2#06 Mz3 Fukuda Kise 3-2#07 Mz13 Watanabe Oguruma 3-2#08 Mz5 Kiminofuji Isegahama 3-4#09 Mz7 Osumifuji Isegahama 3-3 Remaining order:#10 Mz1 Wakaseiun Chiganoura 2-5#11 Mz2 Satoiazuma Tamanoi 1-4#12 Mz9 Tenei Takadagawa 0-5#13 Mz8 Shachinofuji Isegahama 0-1-4 Public presentation tomorrow during sandanme as always, which should also finally allow us to verify the shikona. Edited November 24, 2017 by Asashosakari 3 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites