Akinomaki 40,814 Posted May 31, 2017 o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o There will be more 15 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,814 Posted May 31, 2017 ANN has again a mass of videos, though other channels, NHK esp. did live broadcasts press conference in 5 parts: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jlCBaPI_ET4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d9v8ZE80NhY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9bXUFWn_u1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aalRWx7x0c8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgPfNlR5rd0 Kyodo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aoldH2XsGUA 6 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orandashoho 720 Posted May 31, 2017 A question has just occurred to me -- Is the promotion ceremony the same when a former Ozeki regains the Ozeki rank? Perhaps not when regaining the rank immediately after a kadoban makekoshi demotion, but for instance if Kotoshogiku makes a successful Ozeki run? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaeucherLax 290 Posted May 31, 2017 10 minutes ago, orandashoho said: A question has just occurred to me -- Is the promotion ceremony the same when a former Ozeki regains the Ozeki rank? Perhaps not when regaining the rank immediately after a kadoban makekoshi demotion, but for instance if Kotoshogiku makes a successful Ozeki run? Good question! Has that ever happened in the 6 tournament era? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,814 Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) No ceremony is held for an ozeki re-promotion (of course not for immediate, but Miyabiyama would have had none for the denied re-promotion), like there is no shinjo shusse for a restart from maezumo. Kaiketsu is an example. Edited May 31, 2017 by Akinomaki 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orandashoho 720 Posted May 31, 2017 Thanks @Akinomaki -- I couldn't find any examples offhand. It does make sense, of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benihana 1,937 Posted May 31, 2017 7 hours ago, RaeucherLax said: Good question! Has that ever happened in the 6 tournament era? A ceremony or an ex-Ozeki becoming Ozeki again? The latter has happened a number of times. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaeucherLax 290 Posted May 31, 2017 Thx for enlightening me on this topic. I would've guessed that the number would be fairly small or close to zero especially when there was still the opportunity to go kosho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benihana 1,937 Posted May 31, 2017 1 minute ago, RaeucherLax said: Thx for enlightening me on this topic. I would've guessed that the number would be fairly small or close to zero especially when there was still the opportunity to go kosho. It IS a very small number, 6 or 7 times IIRC. The topic was brought up in numerous threads in the last months, thanks to Kotoshogiku. Sadly for you i'm just too lazy to search for those posts right now 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaeucherLax 290 Posted May 31, 2017 THX no need for that, it is enough for me to know that it happened before. I wouldn't remember the number or names for long anyway Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,109 Posted May 31, 2017 The previously mentioned Kaiketsu is the only one to achieve promotion to Ozeki the hard way twice in the 6-basho era. Anything before that is hardly comparable. The ones to get back the easy way are Takanonami, Musoyama (practically one right after the other), Tochiazuma (twice, a few years after the previous two), and Mienoumi about a year before Kaiketsu got back the hard way in the 70s. http://sumodb.sumogames.de/Query.aspx?show_form=0&group_by=rikishi&having=2&form1_rank=s&form1_year=>1950&form2_rank=o 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,814 Posted June 1, 2017 later pics o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o $o $o $o $o $o $oo ooooo Musoyama (also Ibaraki, same mawashi color) had used seiseidoudou (fair and square) as well in his acceptance speech o older pics o$o 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,846 Posted June 1, 2017 I guess the Taganoura stable might be starting the new trend of the chair illusion? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,029 Posted June 1, 2017 Well, Kaiketsu. As much as I used to love "Matta! Matta!"-oyakata, i may add that his first promotion might have been slightly political, as they seem to have wanted a second Ozeki rather pronto. Starting the run with 7-8 otherwise doesn't really add up. (Sorry for spelling out the well-known. Handful of newbies around recently.) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Washuyama 641 Posted June 1, 2017 Not that it adds anything to the conversation, but I remember watching Kaiketsu. He was one of those guys who when he was "on" he was really, really good, evidenced by the yusho and string of consecutive double-digit wins. When he wasn't "on", he was pretty average. Kinda like Goeido. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orandashoho 720 Posted June 1, 2017 3 hours ago, Washuyama said: When he wasn't "on", he was pretty average. Kinda like Goeido. Or Kaisei. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,874 Posted June 1, 2017 37 minutes ago, orandashoho said: Or Kaisei. When Kaisei is on, he is about average. When Kaiketsu was on, he was great. He was one of my all-time favorites. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted June 2, 2017 (edited) 9 hours ago, Asojima said: When Kaisei is on, he is about average. When Kaiketsu was on, he was great. He was one of my all-time favorites. I followed sumo from July 1974 thru July 1977. After Yokozuna Kitanoumi, Yokozuna Wajima and Ozeki Takanohana, Kaiketsu was the 4th best rikishi. Ahead of future Yokozuna Wakanohana II and future Yokozuna Mienoumi. Much better than Goeido. Edited June 2, 2017 by Bumpkin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,814 Posted June 4, 2017 And now all kinds of Takayasu food get created o o o o o o and Takayasu sales happen o oo sumo corner in the public library of his hometown Tsuchiura o 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 40,814 Posted June 5, 2017 stickers for Takayasu with Kise: "Congratulations. Aim for yokozuna (me)!" o o more food o o and the man started training - next goal yusho o o o $o 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,846 Posted June 5, 2017 after a night out on the Ginza strip with Kisenosato first.https://headlines.yahoo.co.jp/article?a=20170605-00000003-pseven-spo 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jcaleb 10 Posted June 5, 2017 Mabuhay! Just wish to share a short doc here in our country about Takayasu, a few years ago 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,874 Posted June 6, 2017 6 minutes ago, jcaleb said: Mabuhay! Just wish to share a short doc here in our country about Takayasu, a few years ago The video is blocked in the U.S. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naganoyama 5,949 Posted June 6, 2017 He smiles a lot. That's quite different from his sumo 'game' face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RabidJohn 1,855 Posted June 6, 2017 I don't know if it's Moti's 'translations' of Takayasu's interviews improperly colouring my view of things, but he also looks a lot less careworn and way more than 3 years younger. Note to English-only speakers who don't like watching foreign-language films: the (presumably) Filipino voiceover is interspersed with enough English words to give you the gist. "Welcome home" "Welcome dinner" "international airport" "(sumo) wrestler" "overseas Filipino workers" and "second-class citizens" being just a few examples... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
