Pandaazuma 1,310 Posted May 27, 2017 14 minutes ago, Tsuchinoninjin said: Boo this man! Boooooo! Haha...time constraints, Jezz? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fukurou 534 Posted May 27, 2017 (edited) 29 minutes ago, Tsuchinoninjin said: Boo this man! Boooooo! It's a strategy. X-picks are worth 1/2 point. 14 minutes ago, Pandaazuma said: Haha...time constraints, Jezz? Look at that risk factor! Wow! :) Edited May 27, 2017 by Fukurou Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,154 Posted May 27, 2017 I have no idea where my Bench line-up on Day 14, including Goeido at 4 points when fighting Harumafuji, actually came from. I usually sanity check what my spreadsheet says because it's prone to not actually fully calculating things, but I apparently didn't do that. It doesn't look all that foolish given Goeido actually won (and I won the bout), but there's no way I would have legitimately thought Goeido was the most likely to win among guys on my squad. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,810 Posted May 27, 2017 Not that I have done well in the Daily Games but I swear I must have been asleep when I made my Pre-Basho picks. 6 wins for Kotoeko in Oracle but yet he's one of my Juryo picks in Rotosumo? Shodai is my top pick in Paper Oyakata but I don't even pick him in Hoshitori? What the hell was I thinking? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsuchinoninjin 1,291 Posted May 27, 2017 16 hours ago, Fukurou said: It's a strategy. X-picks are worth 1/2 point. I'm only following the rules by making a harassing post ;) "You may use as many "X" tips as you wish, BUT BE ADVISED: it is considered desirable to keep your number of "X" picks to a MINIMUM, as a matter of "honor and sportsmanship". Patrons who insist on using lots of "X" picks may be disadvantaged in some instances, as they could lose certain tie-breakers, or never be eligible for the Outstanding Technique Prize. The STK will also consider a patron's "X"-habits when establishing the Banzuke, giving preference to patrons who do "good Sumo" and avoid using "X" picks. Furthermore, your peers and the Sekitori-Toto Kyokai (STK) will respect you for appropriate restraint when using "X"-picks! :)" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 6,407 Posted May 27, 2017 Hehe. I wasn't aware of that section of the rules. Admittedly, I once applied x-picks as a kind of strategy, but then I switched to totally avoiding them, if only for stochastical reasons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jejima 1,498 Posted May 27, 2017 22 hours ago, Tsuchinoninjin said: Boo this man! Boooooo! Well with two babies under 18 months, I don't really have time to play any sumo games at present! Next month during the July basho, I will be flying the whole family to the UK. This means that I am going to have problems with daily games, and will probably have to ask for kosho for most. For the time-consuming games (Bench Sumo, Sumo Game, Tipspiel and Sekitoto), I needed to make a strategy, so that I don't skip two bashos in-a-row for any, yet manage my time effectively, so that I can also do my fatherly (and husbandly!) duties too.... For Bench Sumo - (my game, I'm the only player to have never skipped a bout etc) - I will always play! Tipspiel - I'm at the top of the banzuke, and need to take this seriously. Once during this current basho I could not make my picks before going to work (family reasons), and then was unable to make my picks at work. Missing one day of tipspiel has guaranteed me an embarrassing MK. As there are likely to be a couple of days in July when I won't be able to make daily picks (and there is no 'droning' option for this game), I decided that Tipspiel also needed to be played seriously *this basho* (then kosho for July, and return in September) - and it is just unfortunate about the one day when I could not make picks. Sumo Game - This game does allow one to have a 'droning line-up' - so, I feel that this can be my 'other' time-consuming daily game to go with Bench during July - so I am kosho for *this* basho. Sekitoto - No 'droning option' possible - so not a good game to play in July. But it does have the 'x' option. So, I made the conscious decision to treat Sekitoto like one of the 'quick dailies' (Turn the Tide, Maegashira Game, TUG, ISP etc), where you only need to make a few quick picks. I fully expect to do badly this basho (as I am), but hoping to pick up a few sneaky wins on days of upsets (could do with a few more), but basically my playing of Sekitoto this basho is to act as a place-holder on the banzuke, whilst awaiting September's basho! Hope this makes sense. I now need to clean up the mess that Peter has made with his snacks whilst typing this long message.... (Then I will make today's picks for the various games! Oh, Felix is now awake, and I am bottle duty....) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fukurou 534 Posted May 28, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Jejima said: Well with two babies under 18 months, I don't really have time to play any sumo games at present! . . . . For the time-consuming games (Bench Sumo, Sumo Game, Tipspiel and Sekitoto), I needed to make a strategy, so that I don't skip two bashos in-a-row for any, yet manage my time effectively, so that I can also do my fatherly (and husbandly!) duties too.... You *have* been busy. But watch out, those "husbandly duties" partly got you into this predicament in the first place. Edited May 28, 2017 by Fukurou 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakura 1,526 Posted May 29, 2017 Not happy with Chiyoshoma right now. His loss to Daieisho on Day 15 cost me the TTT yusho, the RotoSumo yusho and a final day win in Bench. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pandaazuma 1,310 Posted May 29, 2017 12 minutes ago, Sakura said: Not happy with Chiyoshoma right now. His loss to Daieisho on Day 15 cost me the TTT yusho, the RotoSumo yusho and a final day win in Bench. Well, I'd blame Daieisho more for his shameless, pointless henka. ;) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fujisan 537 Posted May 29, 2017 Well those 3 yusho's didn't quite happen but my 7th Rotosumo yusho(2 clear of everybody else)put a big smile and slightly puzzled expression on my face........ Other notables..... 12-3 in Sumo game back to juryo and within grasp of Makunouchi.... 10th in Fantasy sumo I never finish in the top 100 normally..... Worst...Sekitori quad 4-11 Dont ask...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fujisan 537 Posted May 29, 2017 On 28 May 2017 at 00:51, Jejima said: Well with two babies under 18 months, I don't really have time to play any sumo games at present! You really should plan your fatherhood better Jezz........... Games first,babies can wait.......... You can tell I'm single cant you.... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,810 Posted May 29, 2017 12 hours ago, Pandaazuma said: 12 hours ago, Sakura said: Not happy with Chiyoshoma right now. His loss to Daieisho on Day 15 cost me the TTT yusho, the RotoSumo yusho and a final day win in Bench. Well, I'd blame Daieisho more for his shameless, pointless henka. ;) That was absolutely ridiculous. I had thought, despite his record, that Daiesho had acquitted himself quite decently for his first trip into Joi-Land. Up till that henka of course. It wasn't so much that he henkaed but that he'd pretty much given his all every day till then. Very sour note to end a basho on. Even if he was injured and it didn't really show if it were me I'd have backed out of the ring easily and taken a dignified loss over a meaningless win myself. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,810 Posted May 29, 2017 Well, congrats to all the Yusho winners and to my "rival" for this basho, Gurowake, who seemed to have improved and got closer to his form as far as I can tell. As for me I did poorly but it was a mixed bag. I did improve in places I wanted to. I did better in TTT and SQ which I was really trying to do. I did terrible in Pre-basho stuff which is a shame. I don't know what happened in Hoshitori. I'm really starting to think I put in a line up for registration meaning to go back to it and didn't. It's inexcusable I didn't have Shodai there and I have no clue why I had Takakaze there and Paper Oykata. Paper I almost managed a KK which for 1st play is okay. I did no better overall in Oracle but I think I improved my Juryo picks there which was my goal so that's something. ISP I did about the same but that game will always be iffy for me I think. Not trying to criticize but there just too many days I don't care for the matchup and end up being cavalier about my pick. Not game runners fault, but mine. I didn't do great in CG but I really enjoy playing that game. Bitter disappointment? Has to be Sumo Game where I finished MK, 7-8, after starting 7-4. Inexcusable. I was shooting for no worse than 9-6. Oh well. Also Toto where I finished 5-10 after starting 3-0 following a 6-9 last basho. Not the improvement I wanted. But Juryo is killing me there and I think I've figured out something for that I will try next basho. Anyway, see you next basho!!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakura 1,526 Posted May 29, 2017 (edited) Highlights for me were Jun-Yusho in TTT (vastly improving anything I've done previously). I think that's an aberration though, and not an actual sign of a trend upward. Roto continues to be my best game consistently for reasons I don't understand. My Oracle performance improved from dead last, but I'm inclined to chalk that up to another aberration when I compare that to my hoshitori and UDH scores, especially as I used the same set of predicted scores for both. I also tried out 3 new games this time. Seki-Toto I found not so fun to play to have to enter results for all the bouts. I'll give it another try though. ISP and Chain Gang were easy to play. By easy, I mean that they were easy to enter picks. Somehow I thought the interface would be difficult. Of course, Chain Gang was incredibly easy after Day 2. I didn't have to do anything at all. Edited May 30, 2017 by Sakura words - I have trouble with them Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fujisan 537 Posted May 29, 2017 1 hour ago, Sakura said: Roto continues to be most best game consistently for reasons I don't understand. I see we have more in common than a closely contested Rotosumo yusho at Natsu 2017..... Can anybody explain why we keep doing so well at Rotosumo? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,810 Posted May 29, 2017 9 minutes ago, Fujisan said: I see we have more in common than a closely contested Rotosumo yusho at Natsu 2017..... Can anybody explain why we keep doing so well at Rotosumo? I've done pretty good in it too so far. I think they may be a function of having less choice. You have to pick from a category, not just anyone you want. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fujisan 537 Posted May 30, 2017 5 hours ago, Rocks said: I've done pretty good in it too so far. I think they may be a function of having less choice. You have to pick from a category, not just anyone you want. Yes I can understand how restricting me from making picks I want would help..... Still a mystery though....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakura 1,526 Posted May 31, 2017 I know this was brought up before (I think in the Yahoo groups). But it's worth repeating here. ms13E Bunijiman 157 11/11/14/10/10/ 9/10/10/12/ 9/12/12/12/ 6/ 9/-(4-11) 10.5ms17E Maeden 157 11/11/14/10/10/ 9/10/10/12/ 9/12/12/12/ 6/ 9/+(13-2) 10.5 Identical scores for everyday but with different results. If Bunijiman had Maeden's exact opponents then he would have won the Yusho instead. (Possibly. Assuming Maeden won nothing on the bench). 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,310 Posted May 31, 2017 The joy of droning. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakura 1,526 Posted May 31, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Asashosakari said: The joy of droning. It's certainly a stress-free way to win your divisional yusho. Edited May 31, 2017 by Sakura Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,310 Posted June 18, 2017 Sometimes I hate Seki-Quad's volatile scores...the Natsu results: First 17 players on the banzuke (O - M5e): 7.4 wins average Last 15 players on the banzuke (J8w - end): 6.8 wins average 34 players in between (M5w - J8e): 6.1 wins average Overall average: 6.6 wins, so +1 for everybody would make sense - but it kills the joi and still doesn't help in the middle section (11 KK, 23 MK)... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
