Gusoyama 104 Posted March 2, 2007 (edited) How many Ozeki do you think there will be on next year's January banzuke? With many up and comers, and our current crop moving, shaking, or falling apart, anything is possible. Just the numbers are in the question, but please supply names if you vote! Edited March 5, 2007 by Manekineko Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 45,534 Posted March 2, 2007 How many Ozeki do you think there will be on next year's January banzuke? With many up and comers, and our current crop moving, shaking, or falling apart, anything is possible. Just the numbers are in the question, but please supply names if you vote! 3. Hakuhou, Osh and Chiyotaikai. Medium-rare Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 19,669 Posted March 2, 2007 Four...current crop minus Kaio. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,874 Posted March 2, 2007 How many Ozeki do you think there will be on next year's January banzuke? With many up and comers, and our current crop moving, shaking, or falling apart, anything is possible. Just the numbers are in the question, but please supply names if you vote! Two - Osh and Taikai. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaiguma 0 Posted March 3, 2007 Hey, this is a great idea for a poll! We haven't had one in a while. As Nish mentioned, you'll probably get more hits if you provide the numbers above. To make it easy you could just have 0-7. It's a tough prediction, especally now that i see Asojima has included a bet for Hakuho to become Yokozuna. 4. Tochiazuma, Hakuho, Kotooshu, Chiyotaikai There will surely be a new ozeki by the end of 2008 with #5 coming from the likes of Kisenosato, Kotoshogiku, Ama, or Homasho in that order. But by the end of 2008 Hakuho may have already made it to tthe top. Not by next January though, so it could still be four. Mashed Potatoes. Yummy ones. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
aderechelsea 125 Posted March 3, 2007 Chiyotaikai for sure. Kaio probably intai Tochiazuma Sekiwake or intai Hakuho the least he can do Kotooshu ... probably yes. maybe a fourth one will be someone new. My bet goes on Homasho because i like the odds .... might make some profit out of it .... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted March 3, 2007 Let us see ... still 5 Kotooshu Hakuho Chiyotaikai Kotoshogiku Kotomitsuki no new Yokozuna, Tochiazuma Sekiwake, Kaio retired, Kotomitsuki finally Ozeki and Ozeki and Yusho for Kotoshogiku (Holiday feeling...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sakana 46 Posted March 3, 2007 Three. I think like Kintamayama : Hakuh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gusoyama 104 Posted March 4, 2007 Thought I added the poll options, and now I can't. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,874 Posted March 4, 2007 (edited) It's a tough prediction, especally now that i see Asojima has included a bet for Hakuho to become Yokozuna. Didn't say that. I only said that he would not be an ozeki. He could go either way. Edited March 4, 2007 by Asojima Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sekihiryu 51 Posted March 4, 2007 I cant think about it my brain hurts!( too much Ozeki talk over the past year) I am over the ozekis! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaiguma 0 Posted March 5, 2007 It's a tough prediction, especally now that i see Asojima has included a bet for Hakuho to become Yokozuna. Didn't say that. I only said that he would not be an ozeki. He could go either way. Quite right, didn't mean to speak for you. However, it is a reasonable assumption following: You're being asked to predict if Hakuho will still be an ozeki at Hatsu 08. If you say no, chances are you are leaning one way over the other. If you really believe he will no longer be Ozeki, I doubt you would weight Yokozuna v. Sekiwake as 50/50 split. Am I right? If you say 70/30 or even 60/40 that's a bet for Hakuho to become Yokozuna, more or less. Personally, I'd weight it at 20/70/10 for Y/O/S. I don't see much chance for him to get his tsuna on in these next 5 basho, but I see even less chance of him slipping back to Sekiwake. He might be scrambling a little bit, but he's just too solid for that IMO. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asojima 2,874 Posted March 5, 2007 It's a tough prediction, especally now that i see Asojima has included a bet for Hakuho to become Yokozuna. Didn't say that. I only said that he would not be an ozeki. He could go either way. Quite right, didn't mean to speak for you. However, it is a reasonable assumption following: You're being asked to predict if Hakuho will still be an ozeki at Hatsu 08. If you say no, chances are you are leaning one way over the other. If you really believe he will no longer be Ozeki, I doubt you would weight Yokozuna v. Sekiwake as 50/50 split. Am I right? If you say 70/30 or even 60/40 that's a bet for Hakuho to become Yokozuna, more or less. Personally, I'd weight it at 20/70/10 for Y/O/S. I don't see much chance for him to get his tsuna on in these next 5 basho, but I see even less chance of him slipping back to Sekiwake. He might be scrambling a little bit, but he's just too solid for that IMO. My impression is that Hakuho has head problems. If he gets it screwed on right, he is a zuna shoo-in; if not, he could easily go into a drop off. I see this year as a big test for him. I would put it as 40/20/40. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Manekineko 200 Posted March 5, 2007 Thought I added the poll options, and now I can't. Poll options added. Go ye and vote! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yangnomazuma 79 Posted March 5, 2007 Well....I see Chiyotaikai and Kotooshu still at Ozeki. Hakuho is the kicker and I believe he'll not get promotion and stay. So I say three. The loss of Kaio and the demotion of Tochiazuma leaves a couple wins here and there that could get picked up by Mickey for a possible Ozeki run, but he's got to get it right soon because his clock is ticking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaiguma 0 Posted March 5, 2007 My impression is that Hakuho has head problems. If he gets it screwed on right, he is a zuna shoo-in; if not, he could easily go into a drop off. I see this year as a big test for him. I would put it as 40/20/40. Fair enough, but this year or never is a pretty dire assessment. I for one hope he's not as slim as a coin and manages to land somewhere in the middle (still ozeki). I would agree with the head problems but I don't think he's ready yet. So he shouldn't rush, but just stick with what he knows and go at his own pace. As they say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
slt 9 Posted March 6, 2007 (edited) Someone has to give Kaio the benefit of doubt, and trust in him just a little more... I wouldn't bet my house on it, but I think Kaio's chances of remaining an Ozeki until Hatsu 2008 are at LEAST worth one vote for him, as well. So - Kaio Chiyotaikai Kotooshu Very unsure about Hakuho, also. I wouldn't be surprised to see him promoted, but also wouldn't be surprised to see him slide down to Sekiwake... This is a bit off topic, but I think Yokozuna Promotion might be a dangerous thing for him. I can easily imagine Yokozuna blues for his first basho as a Yokozuna, and a subsequent mental block for the next few basho... Edit: Had added Homasho, but I think January 2008 is a bit early for that. Maybe May... Edited March 6, 2007 by slt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hoshidango 0 Posted March 6, 2007 Surprising there is no voting at all for 5 ozekis. I say all minus Tochiazuma = 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fay 1,677 Posted March 6, 2007 Surprising there is no voting at all for 5 ozekis. I say all minus Tochiazuma = 4 I said 5 but there wasn't a voting at that time. So I did it now and we will see at Hatsu Basho 08 (In jonokuchi...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kaiguma 0 Posted March 6, 2007 Surprising there is no voting at all for 5 ozekis. I say all minus Tochiazuma = 4 I'm surprised it seems like Tochiazuma the most common dropped for those who say 4, Don't worry, Tochi will prove y'all wrong; he's got at least one year left in those old knees! Or at least I hope so . . . (I am not worthy...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
XiaoTan 93 Posted March 15, 2007 I'd also say 4 - everyone less Tochiazuma. I am quite convinced that Kaio wants to stay at least until Fukuoka and that much depends on his showing there, If he gets a good basho in Fukuoka, he might stay on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kotobaru 0 Posted March 21, 2007 I voted for three. Most sure to be Ozeki is Osh of course and then there should be at least one from oldies Kaio, Chio, Azuma. Chiotaikai is most probably but it can be also Tochiazuma. Kaio has been one of my favorities for years (Clapping wildly...) but now it's the good year for him to go to oyakatas league. Hakuho have a good chance this Hon-basho to get a Yusho and this can motivate him to Yokozuna run, I hope he can succeed this time. (A yokozuna...) Newcomers? It's pleasure to see young hopes to get good results this Basho but I doubt one of them can be Ozeki at January 2008. But sure later at 2008. Homasho is the most real prospective, he already got first win over Ozeki and he'll have good position in next Banzuke. Ama and Kotoshogiku can do it also. In the occasion Kaio and Azuma shall intai (Yusho winner...) Kotomitsuki have some chanches to get Ozeki ranking but I'm not sure he can do it. He is too good at making 8-7 results :-) So, three is most sure guess. (Nodding yes...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chisaiyama 11 Posted April 24, 2007 I'm thinking 3 Ozeki in Hatsu 2008: Kotooshu Chiyotaikai Kotomitsuki Kaio will Intai after Kyushu, Tochiazuma will Intai after Nagoya, Hakuho will catch the rope as a gift for his new child after Natsu! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bishonohana 0 Posted May 7, 2007 I say 4 Ozeki in Hatsu 2008. Kotooshu Homasho Chiyotaikai Kaio I still have hope for Kokkai... He needs to simmer down and focus. He can be Ozeki, but not by Hatsu 2008 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asysanyama 0 Posted May 13, 2007 My vote is the only one (at this moment) with only one OZEKI (Kotooshu) I believe Hakuho is going to be promoted this Basho (Natsu) and with azuma Intai, Chiyo wasting his last bullets, Kaio not withstanding AND Mickey not being able, nor shogiku, nor Ama, believe to early for Homasho and Ozone, this renders only ONE to me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites