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i guess Hoshoryu now for 10

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10. Hoshoryu

(Sigh, a shame I jumped off the bandwagon on Day 9 to explore a variant path.)

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Postponing Onosato-WTK makes sense, I guess...

Sumo Spiffy (Oe) 9-1
Bunbukuchagama (Ow) 9-1
Fashiriteta (K1e) 9-1
Kachikoshi (M4e) 9-1
Profomisakari (S1w) 8-2
Jakusotsu (S2e) 8-2
shimodahito (K1w) 8-2
Oshirokita (M1w) 8-2
Jejima (M2w) 8-2
WAKATAKE (M3e) 6-1-3
Andonishiki (M1e) 5-1-4
Ryoshishokunin (S1e) 5-0-5
Gurowake (Ye) 3-0-7
Hakuhonofan (M2e) 3-0-7
The Kyokai (M3w) 1-9

Ura's aites: 1. Ichiyamamoto, 2. Takerufuji, 3. Hiradoumi, 4. Oshoma, 5. Chiyoshoma, 6. Hakuoho, 7. Tobizaru, 8. Onokatsu, 9. Onosato, 10. Hoshoryu

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Going out on a limb here with

Day 11 - Takayasu

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6 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

Postponing Onosato-WTK makes sense, I guess...

I don't think it's postponed. Kotozakura-Kirishima is the correct intra-sanyaku match for today if they want to do the traditional top four round-robin.

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7 minutes ago, Sakura said:

I don't think it's postponed. Kotozakura-Kirishima is the correct intra-sanyaku match for today if they want to do the traditional top four round-robin.

You think so? They could have done Onosato-WTK on day 10 and Kotozakura-Kirishima on day 11 to do away with the Komusubi as quickly as possible. I'm quite sure they would have done so if the records of those involved were the other way round.

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23 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said:

You think so? They could have done Onosato-WTK on day 10 and Kotozakura-Kirishima on day 11 to do away with the Komusubi as quickly as possible. I'm quite sure they would have done so if the records of those involved were the other way round.

Ok, I mean they are doing the standard pattern. Kotozakura as the lowest ranked Ozeki is tagged to complete as many of his Sanyaku matchups before the top two get involved.

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3 hours ago, Jakusotsu said:

You think so? They could have done Onosato-WTK on day 10 and Kotozakura-Kirishima on day 11 to do away with the Komusubi as quickly as possible. I'm quite sure they would have done so if the records of those involved were the other way round.

If they had done this, they would have had to put Onosato and Kotozakura together on day 12, breaking the round robin. Otherwise, the only non-top-four matches remaining for day twelve would both involve Kirishima. They've done that early 2 vs. 3 match a few times fairly recently, so it was definitely possible, but now they can go Onosato/Waka Prime on day twelve and keep the round robin for four guys doing quite well.

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Day 11 - Kirishima

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3 hours ago, Sumo Spiffy said:

If they had done this, they would have had to put Onosato and Kotozakura together on day 12, breaking the round robin.

Er, why?

Day 10: Onosato - Wakatakakage
Day 11: Hoshoryu - Takayasu, Kotozakura - Kirishima
Day 12: Hoshoryu - Kirishima, Onosato - Daieisho
Day 13: Hoshoryu - Daieisho, Onosato - Kotozakura
Day 14: Hoshoryu - Kotozakura, Onosato - Kirishima
Day 15: Hoshoryu - Onosato, Kotozakura - Daieisho, Kirishima - Takayasu

Works perfectly fine, or what am I missing?

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9 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said:

Er, why?

Day 10: Onosato - Wakatakakage
Day 11: Hoshoryu - Takayasu, Kotozakura - Kirishima
Day 12: Hoshoryu - Kirishima, Onosato - Daieisho
Day 13: Hoshoryu - Daieisho, Onosato - Kotozakura
Day 14: Hoshoryu - Kotozakura, Onosato - Kirishima
Day 15: Hoshoryu - Onosato, Kotozakura - Daieisho, Kirishima - Takayasu

Works perfectly fine, or what am I missing?

Onosato/Daieisho is also part of the round robin. Yeah, they could have done this instead of Onosato/Koto, but I mentioned Onosato/Koto because they've done the 2 v. 3 match early more than 2 v. 4. 

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11 minutes ago, Sumo Spiffy said:

Onosato/Daieisho is also part of the round robin.

So you're saying Onosato-Kirishima needs to happen earlier because of that? Interesting, never thought of it that way...

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21 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said:

So you're saying Onosato-Kirishima needs to happen earlier because of that? Interesting, never thought of it that way...

My understanding is that the round robin is set up as #1-#4 matching against each other on the last three days, unless something happens to break one or more of those matchups. Since the san'yaku is small, that accounts for both intra-san'yaku matchups on 13 and 14, and two of the three on 15. Kirishima is #5, so apart from his day 15 vs. Takayasu (whether or not it actually happens), his san'yaku schedule should be done by day 12.

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52 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said:

Day 14: Hoshoryu - Kotozakura, Onosato - Kirishima

Kirishima isn't in the top 4.

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