robnplunder 978 Posted July 26 (edited) 7 hours ago, maglor said: There exists a mistaken belief that Onosato lacks some sort of skill that is important to being good at sumo. In reality the only skill that matters in sumo is being big and strong and mobile. Everything else is just tricks and tricks are for kids. Onosato is not Hakuho, but could be a more successful Yokozuna than Kise (for sure), Harumafuji, and Kakuryu. He could be a dominant force going forward, more so than Hoshoryu could. Is Aonishiki real? He was 1-5 against Sanyuku before this basho. He completely turned that around by going 5-2 against the lot. That is freaking impressive. If the others can't crack Ao's sumo style, he'd be an Ozeki in no time. Edited July 26 by robnplunder 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Katooshu 3,464 Posted July 26 (edited) 11 hours ago, Akinomaki said: Wrong comparison: 5-5-5 with 3 kinboshi better than 10-4 with 4 If only Onosato withdrew after 9 bouts as well, then he'd have given away just 2 Edited July 26 by Katooshu 2 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
warusawa 22 Posted July 27 10 hours ago, Kintamayama said: Sonnybono- was never a Yokozuna Bono was neither. -; 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 1,747 Posted July 27 Not on the official site yes, but apparently the special prizes are as follows: Outstanding Performance Award Tamawashi (3rd) Aonishiki *If they win the championship (1st) Kusano *If they win the championship (1st) Kotoshoho *If they win the championship (1st) Fighting Spirit Award Kusano (1st) Kotoshoho (2nd) Fujinokawa *If they win today (1st) Technique Award Aonishiki (1st) Kusano (1st) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reonito 1,747 Posted July 27 So if this is correct and Fujinokawa wins, we'd have 7, which would tie the record from a couple of years ago. Otherwise, 6 would still be second-most all-time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yamanashi 4,040 Posted July 27 12 hours ago, Kintamayama said: Sonnybono- was never a Yokozuna But he once met YokoOno. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 6,320 Posted July 27 (edited) A bit surprising for me that Kusano is locked in for two... Edit: Aonishiki only got the Kantosho in his 11-4 debut, so they should have made the Ginosho conditional. Edited July 27 by Jakusotsu Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tetsuarashi 6 Posted July 27 kusano with a chance to win all three special prizes at the same time with the yusho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,568 Posted July 27 (edited) 54 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said: A bit surprising for me that Kusano is locked in for two... Edit: Aonishiki only got the Kantosho in his 11-4 debut, so they should have made the Ginosho conditional. One can't help noticing the difference between Japanese and foreign. But with this even more unusually generous supply of sansho than at the last sansho flood, that fits. Looks like the NSK has plenty of extra cash now from the kensho flood, since they increased their part of it to 10000 yen. (They only pay for and not decide on the sansho, though they have some top shimpan there to vote) Edited July 27 by Akinomaki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 1,454 Posted July 27 7 minutes ago, Akinomaki said: Looks like the NSK has plenty of extra cash now from the kensho flood, since they increased their part of it to 10000 yen. For my own education, is the kensho really such a big part of Kyokai revenue? 2000+ kensho per basho these days equals 2 million yen additional revenue since the Kyokai share increase, so roughly 16 million yen per year. A decent chunk of money for sure, but that's about one maegashira rikishi's yearly pay, isn't it? Or maybe it's enough to give out a few more special prizes. And aren't they supposed to keep the kensho to return to the rikishi at retirement? Though they might make use of the liquidity in the meantime. Anyway, just curious. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,758 Posted July 27 Sansho winners Shukun-sho - Tamawashi (3rd) - Aonishiki, Kusano, Kotosho first for all whoever wins the yusho Kanto-sho - Kusano (1st) - Kotoshoho (2nd) - Fujinokawa conditional win 1st Gino-sho - Aonishiki (1st) - Kusano (1st) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,568 Posted July 27 51 minutes ago, dingo said: For my own education, is the kensho really such a big part of Kyokai revenue? 2000+ kensho per basho these days equals 2 million yen additional revenue since the Kyokai share increase, so roughly 16 million yen per year. A decent chunk of money for sure, but that's about one maegashira rikishi's yearly pay, isn't it? Or maybe it's enough to give out a few more special prizes. And aren't they supposed to keep the kensho to return to the rikishi at retirement? Though they might make use of the liquidity in the meantime. Anyway, just curious. A very small part, but some extra cash to finance some extra sansho. They also now keep 50 000 yen of the rikishi's kensho money for later, so they can get a few more yen from investing the money till then. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 6,320 Posted July 27 Pardon my ignorance, but does the Kyokai even have a say in the sansho? I thought they were decided by a board of journalists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 1,454 Posted July 27 (edited) Mita juryo yusho! Caught his interview halfway and didn't get much info except he'll gambarize even more. Edit: saw a bit more and he said he's happy to finish a basho without injuries, and has worked on his lower body more, allowing him to push better. Edited July 27 by dingo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,568 Posted July 27 6 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said: Pardon my ignorance, but does the Kyokai even have a say in the sansho? I thought they were decided by a board of journalists. The top shimpan are part of the sansho committee and can influence the discussion - I haven't seen a comment anywhere that they aren't allowed to vote, so I guess they do 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 1,454 Posted July 27 (edited) Fujinokawa got his sansho with a spirited resistance to Ichiyamamoto, ending the bout with a pulldown. Happy to see him get recognition for a good basho. Edit: in the interview he said it was one of his dreams to get a sansho, surpassing his father's achievements. Edited July 27 by dingo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benihana 1,959 Posted July 27 (edited) Ichi still has much to learn. From 9-1 yusho contender to 9-6 as soon as he had to fight above M5. Hard Realitätsschelle (b***hslapped by reality). Edited July 27 by Benihana Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 1,454 Posted July 27 Oho had a decent end to the basho, getting his 7th win by keeping Hakuoho from getting close with strong two-handed pushes. Makekoshi is still makekoshi but he did well to limit the damage to his rank. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 1,454 Posted July 27 (edited) Kotoshoho yusho! Easy pulldown as Aonishiki seemed nervous. Well executed plan. Parents in the house and his brother Kotoeiho also won today so good omens perhaps. Edited July 27 by dingo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MrGrumpyGills 171 Posted July 27 Well deserved yusho for Kotoshoho! Congratz 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Benihana 1,959 Posted July 27 Bummer. But congratulations to both. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,568 Posted July 27 Nothing in it any more for Kusano, so no power - Takayasu had double digits as a big motivation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Godango 1,092 Posted July 27 Quality basho for Tamawashi. Ya love to see it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,568 Posted July 27 Tamawashi jun-yusho! Only one of likely 5 jun-yusho (Onosato still has to take his last win) for Aonishiki, Purin (pudding) joined there as well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dingo 1,454 Posted July 27 Tamawashi got his 11th win, amazing result for the veteran. Though Oshoma is entirely useless if he can't pull. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
