Lower division celebs results

[Reonito 1,335]

14 minutes ago, maglor said:

I wonder if they started making the matchups from the top up, already had the first three quarterfinals scheduled, then realized Shosei and Asonoyama were in the same stable so just grabbed them opponents from whoever was left instead of going back and changing stuff.

I mean, this sort of thing comes up routinely and they know how to avoid same-heya matchups without unnecessary cross-division scheduling. They just had to change the order to split these two in the round of 16, so it's not like they didn't know. And it potentially complicates the yusho race going forward.

[Seiyashi 4,071]

Spitballing, but is it anything marginally necessitated by sandanme's matchups?

[Yubinhaad 11,546]

7 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

The peculiar thing is that he changed his shikona from Asonoshiki to Asonayama in July 2020 when his near-namesake was already ozeki.

Nothing peculiar about it - his shusshin in Aso-shi in Kumamoto, and Aso-san is the largest active volcano in Japan. See also an earlier rikishi.

[Reonito 1,335]

10 minutes ago, Seiyashi said:

Spitballing, but is it anything marginally necessitated by sandanme's matchups?

It's true that they've ended up with ten 4-0 rikishi in sandanme, but Kototebakari and Denuma are in different heya, and I don't see why they'd opt to complicate the makushita race now instead of figuring out what to do with sandanme later.

[Reonito 1,335]

As far as I can tell from the db, there have never been 5 undefeated rikishi after day 9 in makushita 

[Seiyashi 4,071]

So basically, nothing new from the NSK other than "AAAAAAARGH, new scenario, panic at the shimpanbu! Let's just do something!"

[Reonito 1,335]

4 minutes ago, Seiyashi said:

So basically, nothing new from the NSK other than "AAAAAAARGH, new scenario, panic at the shimpanbu! Let's just do something!"

Having more than 8 yusho contenders in Sandanme after nakabi is not the slightest bit unusual though—we also had 10 in Nagoya...

[Gurowake 3,923]

5 hours ago, Reonito said:

Can anyone shed light on the Makushita yusho race scheduling? I figured they'd match same-heya Shosei and Asonoyama with Daiseiryu and Narutaki, but instead the latter two are paired up, while the former two both get Sandanme opponents, potentially leaving us with five 5-0 rikishi instead of the requisite four. @Gurowake @Asashosakari

There's nothing unusual about the pairings.  Are you saying that they should have done something different than normal because of the chance that there's 5 5-0s in Makushita?  I fail to see why they would care.

[Gurowake 3,923]

4 hours ago, Reonito said:

I mean, this sort of thing comes up routinely and they know how to avoid same-heya matchups without unnecessary cross-division scheduling. They just had to change the order to split these two in the round of 16, so it's not like they didn't know. And it potentially complicates the yusho race going forward.

This matters more for the last round, and maaaaaaaaybe the 6th round.  Can you find any situation where they broke from the normal pattern of going around do-beya matchups in Round 5 because of the division border?  I'm not saying it hasn't happened, but I'd be surprised.

[Reonito 1,335]

15 minutes ago, Gurowake said:

This matters more for the last round, and maaaaaaaaybe the 6th round.  Can you find any situation where they broke from the normal pattern of going around do-beya matchups in Round 5 because of the division border?  I'm not saying it hasn't happened, but I'd be surprised.

I can only find one similar example, but I guess I don't know how often the situation comes up. I thought it would have been conventional to simply go 5 v 7 and 6 v 8 in makushita, but maybe that's not the case? That's why I asked you and @Asashosakari to weigh in.

[Kintamayama 44,354]

Aki  2022 -Day9: 

Kaisei the Brazilian veteran is at Makushita 1E, losing his sekitori status after 12 years. INTAI.

Rouga the Russian is 3-2 at Makushita 1W, his highest career rank.

Tomokaze is 2-3 at Makushita 2E. Ex- Maegashira 3 piano player, returned a few basho ago after a serious injury that sidelined him for 6 bashos.

Yoshii, 19 year old ex-Junior high Yokozuna boy wonder, is 2-3at Makushita 3E, his highest career rank.

Fujiseiun is 3-1 at Makushita 5E, his highest career rank.

Ishiura is at Makushita 10E, losing his sekitori status after 7.5 years. KYUJO

Shishi, Ukrainian, is 3-1 at Makushita 11E.

Akiseyama, ex-Makuuchi, is 2-3 at Makushita 11W.

Hokutenkai, Mongolian, is 3-2 at Makushita 12W.

Asanoyama, ex-Ozeki, is 5-0 and kachikoshi at Makushita 15E. A zensho yusho will promote him to Juryo. Back after a six-basho suspension. 

Kawazoe is 2-2 at Makushita 15 tsukedashi. Joins ex-Hakuhou's heya this basho at this rank, college Yokozuna.

Ishizaki is 3-2 at Makushita 16W. Entered at Sandanme 100 tsukedashi in May 2021.  

Mukainakano is 1-3 at Makushita 17E. Highest career rank. 

Dewanoryuu,  Mongolian, is 3-2 at Makushita 17W. 

Kanzaki, is 3-1 at Makushita 21E, his highest rank. He started from Sandanme 100 tsukedashi in March 2022. 

Kiryuukou, ex-Tokitsukaze's son number 1, is 2-3 at Makushita 22W, highest career rank.

Fujitoushi is 2-2 at Makushita 24E.

Osanai is 2-2 at Makushita 31E.  He will not push.

Joukouryuu (ex-Komusubi) is 0-5 and makekoshi at Makushita 33W.

Arauma,  Mongolian, is 2-2 at Makushita 34E.  First ever foreigner at Isenoumi beya.

Nobehara is 0-2-1 at Makushita 36W. Kyujo

Miyagi  is 2-2 at Makushita 37W, highest career rank.

Wakatakamoto is 2-3 at Makushita 40W. Eldest bother of Wakatakakage and Wakamotoharu.

Nabatame is 3-1 at Makushita 49W. Half Thai.

Suguro is at Makushita 50W. Sandanme 100 tsukedashi in November 2021, brother of Fujitoushi. Highest career rank. KYUJO

Hatsuyama, is 3-1 at Makushita 60E, his highest rank. He started March 2022 from Sandanme 100 tsukedashi. 

Maikeru, half  Filipino, is 3-2 at Sandanme 5E.

Kayou is 3-1 at Sandanme 7W, his highest rank. Started off at Sandanme 90 tsukedashi in May 2022.

Naya, Taihou's third grandson (second eldest) is 3-2  at Sandanme 9E. There is another grandson, Yukio, but he's a pro-wrestler.

Daiseizan  is at Sandanme 10W, highest career rank. Inner Mongolian. KYUJO

Kototebakari is 4-1 and kachikoshi at Sandanme 13W. Kotoshouhou's younger brother . Highest career rank. 

Itadaki, Canadian father, twelve years in sumo, is 2-2 at  Sandanme 14W. 

Hanafusa, Ex-Kisenosato's favorite recruit is 4-1 and kachikoshi at Sandanme 16W, highest career rank. 

Mudouhou, Taihou's other grandson (youngest) is 3-1  at  Sandanme 22W.

Shinohara is 4-1 and kachikoshi at Sandanme 29E.

Wakanoshou is 5-0 and kachikoshi at Sandanme 33E, highest career rank.

Tokitora is 2-3 at Sandanme 48W.

Kotokenryuu, 18 years old Mongolian, is 3-1 at Sandanme 49E, highest career rank.

Shunrai, ex-Tokitsukaze's 17 years old son number 2, is 4-1 and kachikoshi at at Sandanme 58E.

Furanshisu from the Philippines is 1-4 and makekoshi at Sandanme 66E.

Kazekenou, is 5-0 and kachikoshi at Sandanme 74E, his highest rank.

Oushouumi is 5-0  and kachikoshi at Sandanme 78E.

Hayashiryuu - Ex-Kisenosato's recruit- 16 years old, one of the Hayashi twins - is 2-2 at Jonidan 10W, his highest rank.

Rinko - Ex-Kisenosato's recruit- 16 years old, the other Hayashi twin - is 3-1 at Jonidan 11E, his highest rank.

Kaitoma (Kairou) - Mark Aaron Justin Toma- Brazilian-Filipino, is 2-3 at Jonidan 25W.

Suyama, small first ever student/graduate from Tokyo University, is 3-2 at Jonidan 62W, his highest rank.

Satonofuji -  the bow twirler is 2-2 at Jonidan 78E. 45 years old.

Hokuouzan (Hagiwara), half Turkish, is at Jonokuchi 15W.  Kyujo for the last 5 bashos. KYUJO

Ootani, ex-Hakuhou's new recruit is 5-0 and kachikoshi at Jonokuchi 16W, his debut basho.

Kagamiou (yes, he's still active..) Mongolian ex-Maegashira with injuries, has been out more or less since day 5 of July 2020,  banzuke-gai.

Edited September 19, 2022 by Kintamayama

[Reonito 1,335]

Unless there is something wrong with this query, this is the first time we've had five 5-0 rikishi in Makushita after Day 9.

[Jakusotsu 5,815]

19 minutes ago, Reonito said:

Unless there is something wrong with this query, this is the first time we've had five 5-0 rikishi in Makushita after Day 9.

...and there's this.
(also five, disregarding Kenryu)

[Reonito 1,335]

10 minutes ago, Jakusotsu said:

...and there's this.
(also five, disregarding Kenryu)

Ah, I was wondering if they didn't always hold those bouts on odd days.

[Tigerboy1966 1,376]

Just an update on the Asa vs Aso situation. Asa won of course, and faces Yuma next. Aso got past Denuma as predicted but he will not be facing Daiseiryu in the semi-final as his veteran stablemate Shosei derailed the rising sandanme star Kototebakari. So that means Daiseiryu vs Shosei, with Aso facing the very promising sandanme leader Wakanosho.

So depending on how the chocolate digestive disintegrates we will get either 2 or 3 men at 6-0. If Aso gets past Wakanosho (I don't think he will) he is likely to get yet another sandanme opponent for his final match in regulation... and then a play-off against Asa for the yusho.

If this makes no sense, blame Asda for putting Zubrowka on special offer.

[Chartorenji 235]

17 minutes ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

Just an update on the Asa vs Aso situation. Asa won of course, and faces Yuma next. Aso got past Denuma as predicted but he will not be facing Daiseiryu in the semi-final as his veteran stablemate Shosei derailed the rising sandanme star Kototebakari. So that means Daiseiryu vs Shosei, with Aso facing the very promising sandanme leader Wakanosho.

So depending on how the chocolate digestive disintegrates we will get either 2 or 3 men at 6-0. If Aso gets past Wakanosho (I don't think he will) he is likely to get yet another sandanme opponent for his final match in regulation... and then a play-off against Asa for the yusho.

If this makes no sense, blame Asda for putting Zubrowka on special offer.

Asonoyama prayer circle for maximum chaos 

[Reonito 1,335]

52 minutes ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

Just an update on the Asa vs Aso situation. Asa won of course, and faces Yuma next. Aso got past Denuma as predicted but he will not be facing Daiseiryu in the semi-final as his veteran stablemate Shosei derailed the rising sandanme star Kototebakari. So that means Daiseiryu vs Shosei, with Aso facing the very promising sandanme leader Wakanosho.

So depending on how the chocolate digestive disintegrates we will get either 2 or 3 men at 6-0. If Aso gets past Wakanosho (I don't think he will) he is likely to get yet another sandanme opponent for his final match in regulation... and then a play-off against Asa for the yusho.

If this makes no sense, blame Asda for putting Zubrowka on special offer.

Based on some past instances, seems like a 6-0 Aso might get a 5-1 Ms opponent?

[Gurowake 3,923]

58 minutes ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

If Aso gets past Wakanosho (I don't think he will)

Did you think he'd get past Kototebakari?  Based on record in Ozumo, the latter is the stronger rikishi.  I guess it doesn't really make Asonoyama all that more likely to win; I'm just putting it perspective.

Edited September 19, 2022 by Gurowake

[Katooshu 3,135]

It will be a good matchup and clash of styles. Wakanosho is very promising indeed, but in his career has only beaten 2 opponents who ever KK'd in makushita, and none on the form that Asonoyama is now - it's a big jump from who he's beaten to someone performing at mid-makushita level. And as we've seen, Kototebakari had a rough introduction to makushita.

Waka's thrusting is fierce, but he'll be overpowered if Asonoyama gets a hold of him. Both have what it takes to beat the other, but who will implement it better? I hope the latter, because I want to see the big Asonoyama vs Asanoyama showdown 

Edited September 19, 2022 by Katooshu

[Jakusotsu 5,815]

Rather droll how you're trying to create suspense when we all knew even before the basho started who will prevent a genuine competition.

[Kintamayama 44,354]

Aki  2022 -Day 10: 

Kaisei the Brazilian veteran is at Makushita 1E, losing his sekitori status after 12 years. INTAI.

Rouga the Russian is 3-2 at Makushita 1W, his highest career rank.

Tomokaze is 2-3 at Makushita 2E. Ex- Maegashira 3 piano player, returned a few basho ago after a serious injury that sidelined him for 6 bashos.

Yoshii, 19 year old ex-Junior high Yokozuna boy wonder, is 2-3at Makushita 3E, his highest career rank.

Fujiseiun is 3-2 at Makushita 5E, his highest career rank.

Ishiura is at Makushita 10E, losing his sekitori status after 7.5 years. KYUJO

Shishi, Ukrainian, is 3-2 at Makushita 11E.

Akiseyama, ex-Makuuchi, is 2-3 at Makushita 11W.

Hokutenkai, Mongolian, is 3-2 at Makushita 12W.

Asanoyama, ex-Ozeki, is 5-0 and kachikoshi at Makushita 15E. A zensho yusho will promote him to Juryo. Back after a six-basho suspension. 

Kawazoe is 3-2 at Makushita 15 tsukedashi. Joins ex-Hakuhou's heya this basho at this rank, college Yokozuna.

Ishizaki is 3-2 at Makushita 16W. Entered at Sandanme 100 tsukedashi in May 2021.  

Mukainakano is 2-3 at Makushita 17E. Highest career rank. 

Dewanoryuu,  Mongolian, is 3-2 at Makushita 17W. 

Kanzaki, is 4-1 and kachikoshi at Makushita 21E, his highest rank. He started from Sandanme 100 tsukedashi in March 2022. 

Kiryuukou, ex-Tokitsukaze's son number 1, is 2-3 at Makushita 22W, highest career rank.

Fujitoushi is 3-2 at Makushita 24E.

Osanai is 2-3 at Makushita 31E.  He will not push.

Joukouryuu (ex-Komusubi) is 0-5 and makekoshi at Makushita 33W.

Arauma,  Mongolian, is 2-3 at Makushita 34E.  First ever foreigner at Isenoumi beya.

Nobehara is 0-2-3 at Makushita 36W. Kyujo

Miyagi  is 2-3 at Makushita 37W, highest career rank.

Wakatakamoto is 2-3 at Makushita 40W. Eldest bother of Wakatakakage and Wakamotoharu.

Nabatame is 4-1and kachikoshi at Makushita 49W. Half Thai.

Suguro is at Makushita 50W. Sandanme 100 tsukedashi in November 2021, brother of Fujitoushi. Highest career rank. KYUJO

Hatsuyama, is 3-2 at Makushita 60E, his highest rank. He started March 2022 from Sandanme 100 tsukedashi. 

Maikeru, half  Filipino, is 3-2 at Sandanme 5E.

Kayou is 4-1 and kachikoshi at Sandanme 7W, his highest rank. Started off at Sandanme 90 tsukedashi in May 2022.

Naya, Taihou's third grandson (second eldest) is 3-2  at Sandanme 9E. There is another grandson, Yukio, but he's a pro-wrestler.

Daiseizan  is at Sandanme 10W, highest career rank. Inner Mongolian. KYUJO

Kototebakari is 4-1 and kachikoshi at Sandanme 13W. Kotoshouhou's younger brother . Highest career rank. 

Itadaki, Canadian father, twelve years in sumo, is 3-2 at  Sandanme 14W. 

Hanafusa, Ex-Kisenosato's favorite recruit is 4-1 and kachikoshi at Sandanme 16W, highest career rank. 

Mudouhou, Taihou's other grandson (youngest) is 3-2  at  Sandanme 22W.

Shinohara is 4-1 and kachikoshi at Sandanme 29E.

Wakanoshou is 5-0 and kachikoshi at Sandanme 33E, highest career rank.

Tokitora is 2-3 at Sandanme 48W.

Kotokenryuu, 18 years old Mongolian, is 3-2 at Sandanme 49E, highest career rank.

Shunrai, ex-Tokitsukaze's 17 years old son number 2, is 4-1 and kachikoshi at at Sandanme 58E.

Furanshisu from the Philippines is 1-4 and makekoshi at Sandanme 66E.

Kazekenou, is 5-0 and kachikoshi at Sandanme 74E, his highest rank.

Oushouumi is 5-0  and kachikoshi at Sandanme 78E.

Hayashiryuu - Ex-Kisenosato's recruit- 16 years old, one of the Hayashi twins - is 3-2 at Jonidan 10W, his highest rank.

Rinko - Ex-Kisenosato's recruit- 16 years old, the other Hayashi twin - is 3-2 at Jonidan 11E, his highest rank.

Kaitoma (Kairou) - Mark Aaron Justin Toma- Brazilian-Filipino, is 2-3 at Jonidan 25W.

Suyama, small first ever student/graduate from Tokyo University, is 3-2 at Jonidan 62W, his highest rank.

Satonofuji -  the bow twirler is 2-3 at Jonidan 78E. 45 years old.

Hokuouzan (Hagiwara), half Turkish, is at Jonokuchi 15W.  Kyujo for the last 5 bashos. KYUJO

Ootani, ex-Hakuhou's new recruit is 5-0 and kachikoshi at Jonokuchi 16W, his debut basho.

Kagamiou (yes, he's still active..) Mongolian ex-Maegashira with injuries, has been out more or less since day 5 of July 2020,  banzuke-gai.

Edited September 20, 2022 by Kintamayama

[Kintamayama 44,354]

Kawazoe beat Kotoyuushou with a strong utchari.

[Reonito 1,335]

12 hours ago, Kintamayama said:

Kawazoe beat Kotoyuushou with a strong utchari.

That was thing of beauty.

[Fashiritētā 169]

5 minutes ago, Reonito said:

That was thing of beauty.

Yes, his freestyle wrestling skills shining through,

I believe that would be a 4 point throw.

[Tigerboy1966 1,376]

22 hours ago, Tigerboy1966 said:

Aso facing the very promising sandanme leader Wakanosho.

Well there goes my reputation... oh wait, I didn't have one.

On the plus side, Aso gets the 4-1 Ms43 Yuki in what looks like a very winnable match.