kuroimori 1,634 Posted July 29, 2015 Nikkansports website reports following 4 promotions to Juryo division for the Aki Basho 2015: Juryo debut: ms1e Shodai returnees: ms2e Daishomaru ms3w Kizenryu ms4e Kyokutaisei 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,812 Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) Shodai with Tokitsukaze-oyakata (Tokitsuumi)the oyakata doesn't like his negative attitude Edited July 30, 2015 by Akinomaki 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kishinoyama 625 Posted July 29, 2015 Nikkansports website reports following 4 promotions to Juryo division for the Aki Basho 2015: returnees: ms4e Kyokutaisei Good to see him make it back to Juryo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony 16 Posted July 29, 2015 Good news indeed about Kyokutaisei. Do you know if new Oshima oyakata will re-open the heya ? Shodai's promotion should be a freshness wind for Tokitsukaze-beya. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,243 Posted July 29, 2015 Good news indeed about Kyokutaisei. Do you know if new Oshima oyakata will re-open the heya ?Unless they waive the rule for him, he'll have to wait a minimum of one year. I would guess it'll be at least early 2016 before we hear any official talk about the matter. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
krindel 688 Posted July 29, 2015 Good news indeed about Kyokutaisei. Do you know if new Oshima oyakata will re-open the heya ?Unless they waive the rule for him, he'll have to wait a minimum of one year. I would guess it'll be at least early 2016 before we hear any official talk about the matter. If he were allowed to leave with all the former Oshima-beya rikishi, that would really put Tomozuna-beya in a very bad situation, they would be left with basically only Kaisei and some rather uninspiring low rankers. On the other hand, the downside of his longevity as a rikishi is, of course, that he is in a rather advanced age for a fresh oyakata, so if he plans to re-open Oshima-beya he might prefer to do it sooner rather than later. But, as you say, in a year a lot can change... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orandashoho 720 Posted July 29, 2015 He may need a year or more to set everything up, unless some preparations have been ongoing already (not unthinkable, since he has held the kabu for some years now) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,243 Posted July 29, 2015 If he were allowed to leave with all the former Oshima-beya rikishi, that would really put Tomozuna-beya in a very bad situation, they would be left with basically only Kaisei and some rather uninspiring low rankers. On the other hand, the downside of his longevity as a rikishi is, of course, that he is in a rather advanced age for a fresh oyakata, so if he plans to re-open Oshima-beya he might prefer to do it sooner rather than later. But, as you say, in a year a lot can change... For what it's worth, the reports immediately post-intai included comments from him that he wants to be a very hands-on coaching oyakata, i.e. regularly getting into mawashi for keiko, not just sitting on the sidelines. That indicates to me that he probably still has designs on setting up his own stable. His father-in-law always seemed like a pretty diligent man when he was in Kyokai management, so it wouldn't surprise me if the details of that branch-out/re-establishment were already hammered out back when the original Oshima-beya folded - I doubt Tomozuna-oyakata will be able to block that move. (I probably should have moved my initial reply to the Tenho intai thread...this is getting pretty off-topic here. :-S) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shumitto 418 Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) On the other hand, the downside of his longevity as a rikishi is, of course, that he is in a rather advanced age for a fresh oyakata, so if he plans to re-open Oshima-beya he might prefer to do it sooner rather than later. I don't see much problem with that. He is 40 and can have some decades ahead of him. This belongs elsewhere though, as the topic itself which should be in another section I suppose. Edited July 29, 2015 by shumitto Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,151 Posted July 29, 2015 Quite surprised that Shodai didn't take on a "real" shikona. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted July 29, 2015 Okay, this is only funny in Franconian slang, but starting from Aki 2015 it will be Shodaim! in Juryo division. (Sorry for all who don't get this pun, and even more sorry for those who get it...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ronnie 221 Posted July 29, 2015 Not as sorry as I am for googling it! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
yorikiried by fate 2,038 Posted July 29, 2015 Tokitsukaze-oyakata looks like he just escaped from Madame Tussauds... 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kuroimori 1,634 Posted July 29, 2015 Not as sorry as I am for googling it! Good luck with that! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doitsuyama 1,259 Posted July 29, 2015 Not as sorry as I am for googling it! Good luck with that! I got it after some initial confusion. And yes, you better be sorry on both accounts. :-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 6,392 Posted July 30, 2015 Okay, this is only funny in Franconian slang, but starting from Aki 2015 it will be Shodaim! in Juryo division. (Sorry for all who don't get this pun, and even more sorry for those who get it...) Yeah, sorry me for getting it immediately B-) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony 16 Posted July 30, 2015 If he were allowed to leave with all the former Oshima-beya rikishi, that would really put Tomozuna-beya in a very bad situation, they would be left with basically only Kaisei and some rather uninspiring low rankers. On the other hand, the downside of his longevity as a rikishi is, of course, that he is in a rather advanced age for a fresh oyakata, so if he plans to re-open Oshima-beya he might prefer to do it sooner rather than later. But, as you say, in a year a lot can change... For what it's worth, the reports immediately post-intai included comments from him that he wants to be a very hands-on coaching oyakata, i.e. regularly getting into mawashi for keiko, not just sitting on the sidelines. That indicates to me that he probably still has designs on setting up his own stable. His father-in-law always seemed like a pretty diligent man when he was in Kyokai management, so it wouldn't surprise me if the details of that branch-out/re-establishment were already hammered out back when the original Oshima-beya folded - I doubt Tomozuna-oyakata will be able to block that move.(I probably should have moved my initial reply to the Tenho intai thread...this is getting pretty off-topic here. :-S) The new Oshima oyakata would wait june 2017. At this time, Tomozuna oyakata will quit the NSK. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Asashosakari 20,243 Posted July 30, 2015 The new Oshima oyakata would wait june 2017. At this time, Tomozuna oyakata will quit the NSK.Are you guessing or posting news? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,812 Posted July 30, 2015 A pic of a returnee - usually only the local sites post these: a sekitori from Hokkaido again is news. http://dd.hokkaido-np.co.jp/sports/sports/sumo/1-0162365.htmlKyokutaisei back after 6 basho 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tony 16 Posted July 30, 2015 The new Oshima oyakata would wait june 2017. At this time, Tomozuna oyakata will quit the NSK.Are you guessing or posting news? Sorry, just guessing ! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
