Kaitetsu 348 Posted December 16, 2023 (edited) Hanafusa has been given a shikona for the next tournament. Hananoumi (花の海 - はなのうみ), not following the apparent trend of using -nosato that could have started with Onosato. Probably Nishonoseki doesn't really like shikona traditions then? Edit: Actually, I think the Umi part comes from his first name Kai (海). Edited December 16, 2023 by Kaitetsu 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RabidJohn 2,071 Posted December 16, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, Kaitetsu said: Probably Nishonoseki doesn't really like shikona traditions then? I'm still pretty clueless about naming conventions. Some, like Kononoe and Sadogatake, make it easy to understand; others seem opaque to me. Does he get maybe more options having that ichimon head kabu, or can he just do whatever he likes? Edited December 16, 2023 by RabidJohn Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaitetsu 348 Posted December 16, 2023 2 hours ago, RabidJohn said: I'm still pretty clueless about naming conventions. Some, like Kononoe and Sadogatake, make it easy to understand; others seem opaque to me. Does he get maybe more options having that ichimon head kabu, or can he just do whatever he likes? I always got the idea that the oyakata can do whatever he likes, but if you are simply picking up a spot from a deceased or retired stablemaster, you probably feel forced to keep the old traditions of the stable, but at a new stable? I think there is no code of conduct for oyakata for that, lets put it that way. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaitetsu 348 Posted December 17, 2023 (edited) Another one! Nishonoseki is on a rampage. Rinko becomes... Rinko. First kanji change, from 林 to 麟, same sound but the second comes from the fantastical creature Kirin (麒麟). Kirinryu (麒麟龍) is from the same stable. NOW I think the trend seems to be the same as the old legendary Nishonoseki stable (the one that closed in 2013) that fairly regularly used real and mythological animals' kanji in shikona, I think this was even said by Nishonoseki himself on a twitter post quite some time ago iirc. Maybe he is gonna keep the -nosato suffixes for super strong recruitees/makuuchi debutants? Edited December 17, 2023 by Kaitetsu 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Yubinhaad 11,972 Posted December 18, 2023 On 16/12/2023 at 13:06, Kaitetsu said: Hananoumi (花の海 - はなのうみ), not following the apparent trend of using -nosato that could have started with Onosato. Probably Nishonoseki doesn't really like shikona traditions then? On 17/12/2023 at 00:31, Kaitetsu said: NOW I think the trend seems to be the same as the old legendary Nishonoseki stable (the one that closed in 2013) that fairly regularly used real and mythological animals' kanji in shikona, I think this was even said by Nishonoseki himself on a twitter post quite some time ago iirc. Maybe he is gonna keep the -nosato suffixes for super strong recruitees/makuuchi debutants? I think it's too soon to place a particular pattern of shikona changes in Nishonoseki-beya, not only is the heya itself still young but a significant chunk are survivors from Oguruma-beya. Two of those received shikona with Nishonoseki links, either historical (Kirinryu) or to the current shisho (Wakenosato), while the others Aron and Ryuo are more ambiguous. Among the direct Nishonoseki recruits, Soseizan's middle kanji is from the shisho too. Nishida will make his Makushita debut on the new banzuke, I wonder if he'll get a shikona to mark that promotion. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaitetsu 348 Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) Aaaaand another one! Juryo Takahashi is going to be known as Shirokuma (白熊 - しろくま), Polar Bear. Nishonoseki explains that he is training him to do similar sumo to the late ozeki Hokutenyu, who was known as the Polar Bear of Hokkaido, thus the origin of the shikona. The animal shikona trend seems to continue. Edited December 22, 2023 by Kaitetsu 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RabidJohn 2,071 Posted December 22, 2023 5 hours ago, Kaitetsu said: The animal shikona trend seems to continue. Okay, I'm ready to be shot down in flames, because I'm really too ignorant for this, but isn't Hananoumi 'Sea of Flowers'? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunbukuchagama 978 Posted December 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, RabidJohn said: Okay, I'm ready to be shot down in flames, because I'm really too ignorant for this, but isn't Hananoumi 'Sea of Flowers'? "Sea of Noses". 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaitetsu 348 Posted December 22, 2023 (edited) 5 hours ago, RabidJohn said: Okay, I'm ready to be shot down in flames, because I'm really too ignorant for this, but isn't Hananoumi 'Sea of Flowers'? Yes, but Rinko has the kanji for the -rin in Kirin, a mythological beast and the kanji for Tiger. Hayashiryu has 'Dragon', Kirinryu has Kirin and Dragon, Ryuo etc. Nishonoseki seems to want to continue the old Nishonoseki's tradition is what I was pointing at. Edited December 23, 2023 by Kaitetsu 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,839 Posted December 28, 2023 Ibaraki (tourism) ambassador Nishonoseki did a new PR video for his prefecture - talking about his sumo origins Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gurowake 4,153 Posted December 28, 2023 (edited) On 22/12/2023 at 07:42, Kaitetsu said: Shirokuma (白熊 - しろくま), Polar Bear. I thought I'd point out that when I was learning kanji, the one on the right had the description "bear". It was a bit before I determined which English word "bear" was meant. In contrast, I think there was another animal kanji where there's also a common English homonym (maybe "swallow"?), and they included (animal) to be clear. But not on this one, so I assumed that it *wasn't* the animal, and was wrong. Edited December 28, 2023 by Gurowake 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tsuchinoninjin 1,291 Posted December 28, 2023 3 hours ago, Gurowake said: I thought I'd point out that when I was learning kanji, the one on the right had the description "bear". It was a bit before I determined which English word "bear" was meant. In contrast, I think there was another animal kanji where there's also a common English homonym (maybe "swallow"?), and they included (animal) to be clear. But not on this one, so I assumed that it *wasn't* the animal, and was wrong. Parrot 鸚哥 To parrot 受け売り but if you wanna use a different type of parrot it’s similar Parrot 鸚鵡目 Parroting 鸚鵡返し Note that nobody knows these kanji, so don’t bother memorizing this post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,839 Posted February 7, 2024 Ibaraki ambassador Nishonoseki today was at the B1-league basketball game of Ibaraki Robots vs. Utsunomiya BREX in the Mito Arena, during half time doing PR for the Haru jungyo Mito basho there on April 26th. o o o o 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,858 Posted February 9, 2024 A late find, his property sponsor video from Nagoya. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,839 Posted February 21, 2024 Nikkei Shimbun columnist Nishonoseki is again involved in investment advice. Yesterday he was at the 3rd PR event for the new NISA, organized by the Financial Services Agency and Yoshimoto Kogyo, who do the live stream (later there will be a video from the FSA) - at 55:45min oo o o o o Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bunbukuchagama 978 Posted June 2, 2024 Don't show it to minors! 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,839 Posted June 26, 2024 He is a big keiba fan On 06/12/2022 at 10:54, Akinomaki said: On 19/02/2019 at 08:27, Akinomaki said: Tagonoura-beya becomes the first heya that stays at a keiba ground for their regional basho lodgings. For Osaka they'll stay at the Sonoda racecourse in Amagasaki, asageiko can be watched from the 26th to March 7th, the new Araiso-oyakata will be there On 06/03/2019 at 21:30, Akinomaki said: Araiso had a talk-show at the heya's racecourse. About the eternal bouts with Takayasu: in the past he had trained for himself, but now he only thinks of how to help Takayasu - with the result that his own sumo gets better and better. On 06/12/2022 at 10:54, Akinomaki said: Nishonoseki on the 4th had a talk show after watching keiba at the Chukyo racecourse in Toyoake, Aichi, his first visit there - he wants to come again o the next keiba PR event: Nishonoseki today was guest for the first time at the Tokyo City Ooi keiba racecourse - of course he had a talk show ooo o o o o Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,839 Posted August 23 (edited) On 17/06/2022 at 14:42, Akinomaki said: Nishonoseki on the 16th in Yachiyo was appointed cheerleader of the PR project for the keisui nashi pear, Ibaraki local produce. Ibaraki PR ambassador Nishonoseki was appointed 1st PR ambassador for the "satsuma-imo department" of Namegata city, which is 3rd biggest producer of the sweet potato in Japan local news clips o Edited August 23 by Akinomaki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites