Kintamayama 47,263 Posted July 31, 2017 Kisenosato has started light training today at his heya in Tokyo-session closed to the public. He did some light stuff and perspired well. He now has a left ankle injury as well which he suffered on day 5 of last basho in his bout against Ikioi. "I've still got a long way to go," he told reporters after the session. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kishinoyama 625 Posted July 31, 2017 (edited) 2 hours ago, Kintamayama said: "I've still got a long way to go," he told reporters after the session. Hopefully he will sit out Aki and come back for Kyushu. I hope Kakuryu will do the same. It sure would be nice to have 4 mostly healthy yokozuna competing together. I say mostly healthy because I am not certain a rikishi over the age of 30 is ever completely healed. Edited July 31, 2017 by Kishinoyama Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WAKATAKE 2,759 Posted July 31, 2017 2 hours ago, Kishinoyama said: Hopefully he will sit out Aki and come back for Kyushu. I hope Kakuryu will do the same. It sure would be nice to have 4 mostly healthy yokozuna competing together. I say mostly healthy because I am not certain a rikishi over the age of 30 is ever completely healed. And with Harumafuji needing possible surgery on his elbow, that's all we need to have four yokozuna on the banzuke but only one possibly finishing the basho if the injured ones decide to come back prematurely in Aki and then have to withdraw again. That's one thing the NSK doesn't need right now for sure. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Churaumi 753 Posted July 31, 2017 It seems they'll let Kisenosato slide by with that, but from what the YDC said, it's probably better for the others to just not show up at all than show up and go kyujo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,263 Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) Hakuhou is worried. "I'll be facing the bouts day by day. In my case it may seem obvious that I get the yusho but it's not that simple. My targets at present are the 40 yusho mark and the 1000 Makuuchi wins record- 44 more wins." he said. Regarding his knee injury: "If I train, it's painful. If I rest, the pain is there. It's complicated." He intends to resume training tomorrow. He usually starts going for degeiko a week after the Banzuke is published and may not be able to do that this time around. "I'll do what I am able to do at this point and see how I am on a daily basis," he summed. Edited August 29, 2017 by Kintamayama 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,263 Posted August 29, 2017 Kadoban Ozeki Terunofuji has started training today. He faced heyamates Takarafuji and Homarefuji and was 7-15. When pushed back, he did not offer resistance needlessly just to be on the safe side. "I just wanted to see how my knee responded to pressure. I'm mostly cured. I still don't have my ring sense back, though. I am definitely in for Aki. I'm going for the yusho!!" he declared. 1 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,263 Posted August 29, 2017 (edited) Kisenosato: "I'll take things slowly and prepare accordingly. I can only do what I can do.." He was at Tagonoura beya this morning but did not do any sumo. He practiced using a left otsuke with some Makushita guys there. "Will I be doing some sumo tomorrow? I'll see how I feel," he answered the journalists. Edited August 29, 2017 by Kintamayama 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dada78641 884 Posted August 29, 2017 I'm worried too, about Hakuho. If any of the other three yokozuna turn up healthy I'll be perfectly happy, but I don't believe they will. So if Hakuho starts getting the sniffles we'll have four yokozuna and yet none of them will actually be fighting at full strength... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,263 Posted August 30, 2017 Kisenosato - no change. No sumo, just foundation suriashi and shiko at home. "Still a long way to go," he reiterated. Takayasu went for degeiko at Tokitsukaze beya and said he had 25 bouts against Shoudai and others. "I will go out with all my might and gambarize," he ad-libbed. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,828 Posted August 30, 2017 (edited) Kakuryu today at butsukari-geiko - he went to Shikoroyama-beya but did no sumo himself, only the basics: "It (the injury) is definitely better, but I'm at a slowdown. Doing it halfway leads nowhere." o Hakuho restarted keiko today - the basics o o Kise was trying out some nasty moves with the young ones yesterday - ottsuke again and again o o o o o o o o o o Edited August 30, 2017 by Akinomaki 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kaminariyuki 519 Posted August 30, 2017 3 hours ago, Kintamayama said: Takayasu went for degeiko at Tokitsukaze beya and said he had 25 bouts against Shoudai and others. "I will go out with all my might and gambarize," he ad-libbed. Could this be Takayasu's big chance? ...or, no, could it possibly be? Ura! OK, joiking aside, I hope Ura and Hakuho both show up healthy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted August 30, 2017 I hope all the sekitori show up healthy. Unfortunately, we all know that they won't. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,263 Posted August 31, 2017 Hakuhou intends to skip tomorrow's YDC soken. Today he just did the fundamentals- shiko etc at home. "My knee is in bad shape. I won't be able to do anything even if I did show up at the soken. If my feeling and my body aren't as one I can't do any sumo.." he explained. As for Kisenosato he will see how he feels tomorrow morning and will decide if he appears at the soken or not. "I prefer to rebuild my body without hurrying things. I want to mount the dohyo at my best, " he broken-recorded. 1 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,263 Posted August 31, 2017 On 8/30/2017 at 18:07, Akinomaki said: Kakuryu today at butsukari-geiko - he went to Shikoroyama-beya but did no sumo himself, only the basics: "It (the injury) is definitely better, but I'm at a slowdown. Doing it halfway leads nowhere." Yokozuna Kakuryuu went to Shikoroyama beya yesterday for degeiko. "It's my first training session since my injury," he explained. He trained with the lower rankers and was positive. 10 days ago, he said he could barely walk. Soken? "I guess I can't go.." he said. He did not do real serious training and it doesn't look like it will happen any time soon. Aki entry unclear. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,263 Posted August 31, 2017 More on Takayasu's degeiko to Tokitsukaze beya yesterday. He faced Shoudai, Yutakayama and Nishikigi and was 19-6. "Not enough bouts.." he said. He usually goes for the upper left hand grip at the tachiai. "I'm gonna try some new stuff like going for the left underarm grip.. If I fail, I'll try to get the over arm grip quickly. It's still a work in progress.." he added. He will be at the soken tomorrow. 4 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,263 Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) Kyujo situation: Kakuryuu: "I still can't do any sumo. I can't do any serious first step. I'll wait till the beginning of the week and see what's what and then decide." His Oyakata has declared that the next basho he appears in is really important. "If I will be in perfect condition it will be OK. I'm at 60-70 percent," added Kakuryuu. Kakuryuu Soken Conga? Kisenosato: "Still a long way to go. I prefer doing the fundamentals and getting back in shape. I know there is not much time left and i haven't trained seriously yet, butI'll wake up early and see what happens.. I'm just seriously tuninbg up my body for nw.." Hakuhou: "I'm OK.." Hakuhou: "So, goatee huh? Planning a vacation?" My guess- Kisenosato and Kakuryuu out, Hakuhou in, but after he gets his second loss after Day 5, out as well. Terunofuji yusho. Edited September 1, 2017 by Kintamayama 2 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,858 Posted September 1, 2017 17 minutes ago, Kintamayama said: My guess- Kisenosato and Kakuryuu out, Hakuhou in, but after he gets his second loss after Day 5, out as well. Terunofuji yusho. Finally, it is about time for Terunofuji to start his tsuna-run. I was getting impatient about this. @Kintamayama: any tips on Harumafuji. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Kintamayama said: My guess- Kisenosato and Kakuryuu out, Hakuhou in, but after he gets his second loss after Day 5, out as well. Terunofuji yusho. I picked Terunofuji to win in Nagoya. I am picking Harumafuji to win the Aki basho. This would be his 9th and, probably, final yusho. Go Ama! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,828 Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) papers oo o o oo o o oo Edited September 1, 2017 by Akinomaki 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burajirotono 99 Posted September 1, 2017 How are the conditions of Terunofuji´s knee? Anyone knows? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,828 Posted September 1, 2017 Hakuho in the yusho interview last basho mentioned that he was really impressed when as a 6 year old he met Wakanohana I, who on his tour around the world to research sumo roots came to Mongolia, and that he got an umaibo from him. Maker Yaokin was delighted about that PR and sent Hakuho an ample supply of it - Hakuho revealed the truth though: "I didn't eat it then and gave it to the horse (uma), umaibo and uma" - with the usual smile of delight about his dajare. http://www.chunichi.co.jp/chuspo/article/sumo/news/CK2017083102000157.html 1 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kintamayama 47,263 Posted September 1, 2017 27 minutes ago, Burajirotono said: How are the conditions of Terunofuji´s knee? Anyone knows? He says it's better and has been training. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sekitori 492 Posted September 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Bumpkin said: I picked Terunofuji to win in Nagoya. I am picking Harumafuji to win the Aki basho. This would be his 9th and, probably, final yusho. Go Ama! You should have left out the "picked Terunofuji to win in Nagoya" part and just predicted that Harumafuji would win the Aki basho. One's credibility as an expert prediictor is severely damaged by preceding one's prediction with a statement of your most recent error--which in this case was a pretty bad one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bumpkin 438 Posted September 1, 2017 16 minutes ago, sekitori said: You should have left out the "picked Terunofuji to win in Nagoya" part and just predicted that Harumafuji would win the Aki basho. One's credibility as an expert prediictor is severely damaged by preceding one's prediction with a statement of your most recent error--which in this case was a pretty bad one. I'm no expert. Just a hunch. The only non-injured Yokozuna. Takayasu and Mitakeumi not yet ready for prime time. Terunofuji injured. Ama in Aki! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,858 Posted September 1, 2017 (edited) Are we so sure? Harumafuji didn't opt for surgery for his inflamed elbow after the last basho. Edit: from today's YDC Soken coverage (their list of injuries) and including Harumafuji's chronic injuries. Edited September 1, 2017 by rhyen 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites