Akinomaki 41,840 Posted January 18, 2017 Last year Mainichi had a series about the okami-san of several heya. I always wanted to post from that, now an article with several of them appeared http://www.news-postseven.com/archives/20170118_484645.html so here is the gallery so far Takanohana-beya - Keiko Hanada, west yokozuna on the Shukan Post okami-san banzuke that also got an article last year, but was not published in full on the net. Top yokozuna was the Isegahama-okami-san. Yamahibiki-beya - Minami Hirano Ootake-beya - Ayumi Sato Minato-beya - Makoto Miura, still also works as a doctor, but esp. for Ichinojo Mainichi relay: http://mainichi.jp/graph/2015/11/03/20151103ddm035070038000c/001.html Tatsunami-beya - Misako Ichikawa Mainichi relay http://mainichi.jp/articles/20161101/ddm/035/050/032000c.html Asakayama-beya - Mitsuko Koga, the ex pro-wrestler http://mainichi.jp/articles/20160105/ddm/035/070/146000c Minezaki-beya - Fukiko Kamisawa http://mainichi.jp/articles/20160202/ddm/035/070/085000c Onomatsu-beya - Hisako Teshima http://mainichi.jp/articles/20160301/ddm/035/050/054000c Musashigawa-beya - Masami Musashimaru http://mainichi.jp/articles/20160503/ddm/035/070/113000c The home of cats Arashio-beya - Yuka Suzuki http://mainichi.jp/articles/20160706/ddm/035/050/097000c Isenoumi-beya - Kayo Kuga http://mainichi.jp/articles/20160802/ddm/035/050/068000c Onoe-beya - Izumi Hamasu http://mainichi.jp/articles/20160906/ddm/035/050/037000c Takasago-beya - Megumi Nagaoka http://mainichi.jp/articles/20161004/ddm/035/050/043000c Oguruma-beya - Fumie Nakayama http://mainichi.jp/articles/20161206/ddm/035/050/136000c Azumazeki-beya - Mami Sano http://mainichi.jp/graph/2015/12/01/20151201ddm035070029000c/001.html also articles in Sanspo http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20160316/sum16031605000001-n1.html http://www.sanspo.com/sports/news/20160323/sum16032305000001-n1.html The infamous one of Nishikido-beya - Yukiko Ono http://mainichi.jp/articles/20160607/ddm/035/050/028000c former: Chiganoura-beya - Naoko Misuda http://mainichi.jp/articles/20160405/ddm/035/070/054000c 10 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jakusotsu 6,401 Posted January 18, 2017 15 minutes ago, Akinomaki said: Top yokozuna was the Isegahama-okami-san. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,810 Posted January 18, 2017 Can't wait for Real Housewives of the Heya. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fukurou 534 Posted January 18, 2017 2 hours ago, Akinomaki said: Keiko Hanada, west yokozuna on the Shukan Post okami-san banzuke that also got an article last year, wtf? We're posting rankings of women here? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,810 Posted January 18, 2017 10 minutes ago, Fukurou said: wtf? We're posting rankings of women here? Guess the Banzuke just got a lot harder... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,840 Posted January 18, 2017 In Japan everything gets a banzuke - and this isn't one of women, but of the 2nd half of a heya top - a job occupied by women. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,810 Posted January 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, Akinomaki said: In Japan everything gets a banzuke - and this isn't one of women, but of the 2nd half of a heya top - a job occupied by women. So they are ranked by hotness? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,840 Posted January 18, 2017 Isegahama is likely top because she manages such a hot bunch of sekitori, esp. 2 yusho winners - and Terunofuji was still hot to become the next yokozuna when they made the banzuke. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fukurou 534 Posted January 18, 2017 8 minutes ago, Rocks said: Guess the Banzuke just got a lot harder... not funny Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,858 Posted January 18, 2017 4 minutes ago, Rocks said: So they are ranked by hotness? According to the criteria published in the article 1. Heya rikishi/sekitori performance 2. Heya population 3. Oyakata's record 4. Okami's background 5. Looks Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fukurou 534 Posted January 18, 2017 16 minutes ago, Rocks said: So they are ranked by hotness? 9 minutes ago, rhyen said: According to the criteria published in the article 1. Heya rikishi/sekitori performance 2. Heya population 3. Oyakata's record 4. Okami's background 5. Looks Translation: yes (the first 4 categories are going to pretty much be a wash across sumo) 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,840 Posted January 18, 2017 Remember, this is Shukan Post that produced the banzuke They go for looks of course. But okami-san get evaluated by their skill to manage the heya, for beauty contests we have the sekitori marriage threads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fukurou 534 Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) 59 minutes ago, Akinomaki said: Remember, this is Shukan Post that produced the banzuke They go for looks of course. But okami-san get evaluated by their skill to manage the heya, for beauty contests we have the sekitori marriage threads. So I ask again, why are we posting rankings of women here? Especially since the primary ranking point is based on "looks" or "hotness"? Edited January 18, 2017 by Fukurou Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,810 Posted January 18, 2017 6 minutes ago, Fukurou said: So I ask again, why are we posting rankings of women here? Especially since the primary ranking point is based on "looks" or "hotness"? Because it's sumo related? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fukurou 534 Posted January 18, 2017 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Rocks said: Because it's sumo related? Rating the okami by their looks is sumo related? Does that mean rating school teachers, or even the spouses of school teachers, by their looks is related to education? Edited January 18, 2017 by Fukurou Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
inhashi 2,363 Posted January 18, 2017 I'm glad to see some recognition given to the okamisan. They play a major role in heya operations and to keep these ladies hidden away in the shadows only for the men to take in the glory is not fair (Then again, this is Japan we are talking about). I do question this media's ranking based on looks though That is just downright silly. To hold down a building full of relatively young men can not be an easy task. 8 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rocks 1,810 Posted January 18, 2017 5 minutes ago, Fukurou said: Rating the okami by their looks is sumo related? Does that mean rating school teachers, or even the spouses of school teachers, by their looks is related to education? It's related to sumo. You can argue the value of it but it is in fact sumo related. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Naganoyama 6,042 Posted January 18, 2017 It's good to see pictures of these largely unsung characters. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fukurou 534 Posted January 18, 2017 Some of you guys are never going to get it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,840 Posted January 19, 2017 10 hours ago, Fukurou said: So I ask again, why are we posting rankings of women here? Especially since the primary ranking point is based on "looks" or "hotness"? We are not posting rankings here at all, I have just mentioned that Shukan Post has published such a banzuke - which is NOT based on looks, but simply includes that as well: rikishi popularity is also influenced by their looks: why do you think Okinoumi and Endo got chosen to do the hugging? I only mentioned that Hanada Keiko was put on the west yokozuna spot because that was the title of the article - and mentioned the east yokozuna - for all other okami-san no rankings are mentioned. And that ranking is not for looks, but for ability to manage the heya and make it successful. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
egparis18 622 Posted January 19, 2017 11 hours ago, Fukurou said: Rating the okami by their looks is sumo related? Does that mean rating school teachers, or even the spouses of school teachers, by their looks is related to education? Speaking as a teacher, no it's not, but you wouldn't think so from certain students' attitude. I know where your coming from. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,840 Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) 14 hours ago, Fukurou said: Rating the okami by their looks is sumo related? It is - it is heya related. The okami-san is not only managing the heya, but also an outward representative: at heya parties, facing the koenkai members, and we see her in that function at the promotion to ozeki and yokozuna or in the yusho pictures. You can't compare looks with looks. I guess you would object to both of these as a ranking of women, but in a ranking of all US first ladies since 1900, looks will have a different meaning than in a ranking of female bodybuilders. Looks for okami-san means to look good in Japanese clothing and have a good style and conduct - in her working dress for official heya occasions. Edited January 19, 2017 by Akinomaki Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
orandashoho 720 Posted January 19, 2017 (edited) Also, the okami-san might be acting as surrogate mother to the very young rikishi who enter the stable, supporting them when they have an emotional crisis, etc. After all, the stable is not also their collective house, but also a home. Edited January 19, 2017 by orandashoho 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Akinomaki 41,840 Posted January 29, 2017 On 18.1.2017 at 18:59, Akinomaki said: Asakayama-beya - Mitsuko Koga, the ex pro-wrestler was in the focus on TV this week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA7SlzHtpHI 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rhyen 1,858 Posted January 30, 2017 20 hours ago, Akinomaki said: was in the focus on TV this week: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA7SlzHtpHI Wow, looks like she has some personal tragedy and bravely talked about it on camera. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
